Plaque authenticy

[robi1000]

I have a numbered plaque in my car and I'm challenging you to prove me it's fake! :D I know that such high number should not exist, but maybe someone snatched original unstamped willy plaque and than put it in this car. Or maybe they had some left over...

[robi1000]

Fixed links...

Mine:


Williams 0171-don't know who's the owner:


Yanoo's:


Yanoo's looks a bit different. Maybe it's just on the photo.

[talkingfish]

did they make 6000 Willy 1's??? I'm not sure, I thought they only made 2000 or so, of which 400 came to the UK....

[fasterthanjesus]

country code is the first digit

im no expert, but id like to put money on it

[northy]

0171 is our mandys - bit hard to prove it as it looks genuine.

Maybe the full dash was swapped

One way to check is to find the moulding dates that will be stamped on the plastics....1993 1994 1995 etc....

Yours is a williams 2 Rob?

[Yanoo_]

How many Williams were numbered? 2500, 3500 or 3600? I don't know exactly. I was informed Williams was a homologisation car for Group F2, Renault had to made 2500 (they were Phase 1, all of them have a numbered plaque). Later I read somewhere some Ph2s were numbered too, and the total number of the numbered Williams is 3500. The previous owner of mine said, there are 3600 numbered Willis. Robi's one is Ph 2 and has a plaque with 6035. I'm confused. :S. I'm sure there were 12100 Williams manufactured but how many of them were numbered? :S

Would the first digit be the country code? I'm not sure. 0441 was bought in Austria (now it's running in Hungary), my car (1984) came from Switzerland. Mine was made in 6/93, every moulding dates are between March and May of 1993.

[robi1000]

Well I heard there were 5000 Williams 1, around 4000 Williams 2 and 3000 Williams 3. My car is a Williams 2 (although very early one) and it's from Switzerland. It was made in 94'. In over a year of ownership I tried to find any mistakes or difference in material the plaque was made of and the plaque itself looks completly genuine. This is why I posted this challange. Maybe if someone posted his plaque whisch would include similar numbers as mine we could compare font of the numbers.

[MAXIBOY]

the thing being if you were going to fake a plaque then why pick such and odd/high number to fake.

would be better to fake a lower number really...would it not.. :D

[robi1000]

Well, maybe that guy who faked it (allegedly) respected Williams 1 so much that he made plaque consistent with actual Williams production. But first I must know if it's really fake. Yanoo where did you read that they numbered some ph2 also?

[Oszy]

Well I heard there were 5000 Williams 1, around 4000 Williams 2 and 3000 Williams 3. My car is a Williams 2 (although very early one) and it's from Switzerland. It was made in 94'. In over a year of ownership I tried to find any mistakes or difference in material the plaque was made of and the plaque itself looks completly genuine. This is why I posted this challange. Maybe if someone posted his plaque whisch would include similar numbers as mine we could compare font of the numbers.

Hi Robi!

Mine is also from Switcerland, and also a phase2, but it does not have any plaque unfortunately. It is road legal since 1994.11.30
Do you know the first plate no of the car?? like ZH.....

Oszy