What a difference!

[Swervin_Mervin]

Had to have 4 new tyres as a result of having two low fronts and then a punctured rear so went to costco to get the PE2s in 185/55. Thought I should try it as intended becuase I probably won't have it next time it needs new tyres.

Then on the sunday I replaced all 4 injectors with a set supplied by Mr Hill, along with 4 new plugs and leads and re-routed and upgraded fuel hoses.

Well, I shit myself at first as it tried to run on abour 1 cylinder. Then it caught two. With a bit of gentle persuasion it caught 3. A few wiggles of injector connectors and hey presto, all 4 were firing.

How smooth? Smooth as dairy milk.

It's totally cured the slight mis-fire it had on pickup which it's had for about 18 months at least and which no garage could solve. I noticed that one of the colletts (if that's what they are) on the ends of the injectors was bust.

Only thing left is to secure No.1 cylinder's injector plug better as it has come loose twice now resulting in proper mis-fire. It's seen better days but I can't be bothered replacing it. I'll just tape it up.

Driving on the 185s is weird as well. Whoever says they're not much different is lying. There's a huge difference. Hit a bend on 195/50 F1s and the lack of flex means you know exactly where the limits of the tyre are and it makes it much easier to to judge outright speed. the 185s are softer and as such it's all a bit more blurred. But the trade off is a far superior ride and it also fells more up on its toes in bends rather than squatted down. I actually prefer the tippy-toe nature myself.

[2 live]

but to have a proper comparison mate.......u need pe2s in 195......other tyre manufacturers will have diff sidewall stiffness etc.

[Zollo]

Not just for comfort do some of us go for 185s

[Swervin_Mervin]

but to have a proper comparison mate.......u need pe2s in 195......other tyre manufacturers will have diff sidewall stiffness etc.

Yeah I understand that. Didn't you (Zollo) find the F1s to be stiffer?

Oh and just while we're on teh subject, is there an easy/correct way to remove the injector plugs that doesn't result in them breaking?

[2 live]

Not just for comfort do some of us go for 185s

why then??



they dont turn in as sharp...they roll almost as much as the stock susp ;)

the 185s cost more...dont seem to give u as much feedback.imo...but then they do let u throw it round a bit more and be able to catch it....not that thats a good reason for fittin em...again imo......can catch it just as well with 195s.just have to be a little quicker lol.

[J o n]

plus 185's will be completely ruined by Yozza in a matter of laps if your ever stupid enough to let him drive your car!

[Zollo]

Yeah Merv, I did find the ride stiffer than I expected with the F1s. Nothing serious; just a little more jiggly than I thought a standard Williams would be.

2live - same with everything else... I go for 185s because Renault put them on there for a reason and I prefer the feel they give

[2 live]

the reason being that they had some at the time......maybe if theyd have had an excess amount of 195s..theyd have fitted them instead.


renault also put soft shox on.soft springs....dunt mean to say they better than a harder set up.


renault put a lot of things on the williams to satisfy a generally older sales market...the older person being more able to afford the gp 17 ins rating.....doesnt mean to say the 'dumbing down' of the rally homolgomation model is better.

[Zollo]

Righto

[J o n]

I prefer the standard Willy suspension on the road, granted, you can get a faster setup, but it will have pro's and cons in diff situations... 185's vs 195's though I'd take 195 having had both. I dont think they were designed for the 185, Reno are one of the only manufacturers that put a 185 width tyre on a 7" rim... says to me it was done because they already had a shit load of them or a deal struck at the time, so why change for a limited run of cars?