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    Hi and Help from Lisbon

    Hello people.

    I’m Gonçalo from Lisbon in Portugal.
    I dont have a Clio but i drive a close relative to the clio (R5 GT Turbo) .

    I have in sight a 1993 Williams 1 with around 125000miles and 1 owner from new.

    I would like to know what is your opinion on buying a Williams with this milage and also what points should I look for when buying a williams.

    Thanks for the help.

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    There are plenty of higher mileage Williams/1.8 16v's around than that mate. As long as its got a good service history and has been well maintained the mileage shouldnt be too much of a problem.

    As for what else to look out for:

    - Steering column play (very easy to fix, just weld up the UJ)
    - Rust on sills/rear arches and door bottoms, common and not so easy to fix
    - Gearbox, check for crunching when changing gears or popping out of gear, again not an easy fix and very expensive
    - Movement in the gearstick under acceleration, usually due to the dogbone mount, which is an easy fix and wears really easily.

    Im sure theres more others will list :D

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    I have done almost the same mileage on mine. Since it has been run regularly by the same owner for all these years, I would assumed it has been reasonably well cared for. If you can, have a chat with the owner. He might tell you what needs to be seen to. Are there many Clio Williams in Lisbon?

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    Extensive rust problems are not usual in Portugal apar from the areas near the ocean. I'm more worried with the interior and exterior coz the engine can be done with time. I came from the GTTs and when we owne a GTT for 4 years we learn to leave with engine problems lol.


    In Lisbon there are a few Williams and also the 1.8 16V.
    There is also a 1.8 16V converted to williams.

    My mate has one williams 1, cant remember the number in it but here are some pics of it when the engine was done to an inpressive 200Hp.

    http://www.autopamplona.com/projectos.asp?id=5

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    The interiors are pritty robust (they last well), mainly check that the electrics work, i know some of the euro williams came with aircon so if its got that check its working it wont have a sunroof so you dont need to check for leaks

    other then that just inspect the interior for damage (the door cards sag a lot by the drives side.


    updated for fatboy :P

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    Thanks for the tips.
    I still need to decide if i can sell the GTT or keep them both once i need to hask the bank for money.

    The guy is asking 6666£ for it

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    is that euros ?

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    check for leeks allan??? why would he want to check for a welsh vegetable in his car??? £6,666 english pounds???? christ that is expensive! but then again i spose car prices vary in differant countries across europe?
    CLIO WILLIAMS 0215

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    if its about euros its about 4600 ish maybe around 4580

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan
    is that euros ?
    6.666£ = ~10.000euros

    The car prices in Portugal are the most stupid thing you can imagine.
    A valver can cost hafe this price and a GTT can cost the same has a valver.


 

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