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will need timming
Been told the timing is done via the crank angle sensor.. anyways pics!
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marks still on bores
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whats that red wire for?
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where do the oil cooler pipes go?
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can I take the 1.8 waterpump off and put it on this?
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only damage I can see!
Right so I just need to change the flywheel?
Should you use gasket paste for the head?
This engine was a cambelt failiure, will this mess the timing up? Will there be white mark on the timing cog on this lump like the 1.8?
Is there anything else I need to know before I put it together? Cheers!
once head n block are mated, crank pulley and cam pulley marks can be lined up with marks on timing belt, this will time the engine up and only goes on one way. after that the dizzy will only fit one way aswell.
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engine out again!
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Omg, looks like it was just leaking from the coreplug.. no crack at all from what I can see! Oh well £450 for a new HG at the garage or £300 for an engine.
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What's the best way of getting the crank bolt out as my impact wrench snapped it's self? or should I might just buy another tomorrow :P
told you that guys say something like that when they dont have a clue! ferarri specialist my arse! :lol:
thought that might be the case. anyway at least you can sell it on now
some update pics:
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raped 1.8 block
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Ok, been doing a bit of chopping today because Hellfords got me the wrong aux belt so I'm gona wait untill I have that before I drop the engine in.
Took the front bar off the valver and chopped it up a bit, for 2 reasons, 1) because the one off the valver was a bit bent at one side as it came off the donor valver and 2) it also had a bent hinge.
Anyway chopped it all up and I can already tell the engine will go in a lot easier (it was a nightmare before!).
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Fitting inlet, had to take off all the alternator, and PAS bracket to fit one of the nuts!
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Being lowered in, so much easier with that front bar chopped away
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Just about seated in
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Need to reconnect all the wiring and some pipes tomorrow. Had a problem with the injector o rings- anyone know where you can get them, not even renault do them as you have to buy the injectors at £70 :o
Also what pipes connect to the inlet on the right hand side? Looks like 2 small vacuum hoses.
o ring q answered on clio16valver
vacuum is for map sensor and part of breather system that runs to charcoal canister iirc
tried to start it, nothing, just a click.
Turned it by hand it tried to turn over then stopped and it sounds like it was hitting something. Took the starter out and it's not turning by hand, not got a clue at all.
That doesn't sound good. Has it dropped a valve?
Matt
cam timing ok?
not sure if it has dropped a valve, but don't see why it should?
The timing was ok stan, I made sure the marks were all aligned, and turned it over by hand about 7-10 times and the marks went back as they should, without any odd sounds.
Thinking back though after I put the gearbox on I couldn't turn it over using the crank bolt anymore, so I assumed it was in hear or something which is why I couldn't do it, If I have put something back wrong would this cause the symptoms?
hear = gear *
Also I can't seem to select reverse now so something is definitely not right!
take the plugs back out and try turning it over. by hand
tried, didn't do anything. :? It definitely feels like something is physically stopping it.
Couldn't even push the car back :/
Does the engine turn back the wrong way? i.e. can you turn it back freely and then forward it hits again?
Also is the gearbox mounted properly, if the linkage is set completely wrong it can leave it in gear all the time stopping you turning the engine/pushing the car, would also explain why it wont go in reverse, make sure its defo in neutral!
the engine would turn when u push the car if it was in gear...
tried pushing the car and it wouldn't budge... it was in neutral aswell :? Something isn't making sense.. Could I have put the clutch plate on wrong or anything like that that would cause something to jam?
Alright....Looking back at some pictures of the timing belt on, it doesnt look like its tensioned. Did you tension the belt after timing it up and did you take the timing pin out of the block (the gearbox side of engine below inlet)? Sounds like something is hitting :(
Theoretically yes but ive struggled to push cars before that are in gear, that is to say got enough force behind it to manage to get the car moving to force the engine into turning over.Quote:
Originally Posted by stan
Also if thats not the problem he should still be able to push the car with the timing pin in the block if its in neutral?
yes if it's in neutral it should still be pushable :lol: drive is cut off in the transmission and wont reach the input shaft
Yes i understand how it works :wink: Sorry what i meant was that you mentioned that he might not have been able to move the car because the timing pin may still be in the block but he had previously mentioned that it was in neutral. i now realise that you were talking purely about the engine not turning over not the fact that he cant push the car... my bad :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by cliolord
I think it will only go back on one way won't it?
Sorry, ignore my comment, i didn't realise there was a second page :oops:
update, it flies! :twisted: :wink:
lol what was up with it?
Wahay well done! What was the crack then?
some muppet decided to ignore 'flywheel this side' label on clutch :roll: :P
I joke Ad mate, had a top day gettin her runnin, hows is she?bedding in nice and hope ur missus wasnt too pissed off u were 3 hours late! :lol: :lol:
Lol :oops: Glad youve got it sorted anyway mate, thats the main thing, must have been a while without a car now pal, also bet it flies with that bottom end in there?
i've supplied 3 engines up north now and they've all been super quick lol
lol, yeah i'm a silly boy, the clutch springs was fouling the flywheel bolts! oops. I'll never do that again ha ha.
Coops popped round just as I managed to get the box off, so he helped me 'till it was done! Cheers dude. Couldn't txt back either because my phone is playing up, think there is coolant on it haha. Then again coops swalled quite dangerous amounts of coolant and box oil LOL.
It's smoking a bit (white) but it's getting less and less the more it's run so I presume it's the crap from the old HG failure, it's not loosing coolant or getting hot at all (doesn't shift from the middle) and it seems to be idling well too, and the gearbox is stupidly smooth! The idle issue I think was a mixture of the inlet gasket, HG and injector seals :o
Anyways some pics;
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box finally off!
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silly me
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marks on flywheel bolts.
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having a silly kit has it's upsides :lol:
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coops taking one for the team ha ha.
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:)
Bass bringing the power to the north i like it! You know who to see the next time you get hold of a willy engine and box dont you :wink:
hehe, *adds name to the list*
hows it running am? quick?
its a shame he can't keep one of these fast engines for himself, he always ends up with the slow ones :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveH
lol yeah slow or broken
hey up, yeah it's running good bass!! Got a decat lined up and a remap then who knows :D, it's bloody quick though as it is!
So you finaly got F7 Power.
Nice on dude.
So it's got a Meggy BE now?
Have you not read this thread at all? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by FincH