Valvers vs Wet roads?

[Andyvalver]

Does anyone else think that these two dont go together? When its wet i dont feel safe at all lol. I know its not a good thing to push your car when wet but valvers seem a tad unstable when not even pushing too hard. In the dry though its like its on rails :P I had trouble sticking with a transit van round some twistys when it was damp, sliding all over the shop :shock:

[Gav]

tires all good?

[Andyvalver]

lol yeah :P Maybe i just push too hard :?

[Martin]

See my thread lol got a bit close to a hedge :oops:

[Zollo]

If it starts to get dodgy just following a Transit van around some corners, something on your car is seriously amiss! :?

[Andyvalver]

lol, nah this guy was really going for it. The have a very wide wheel base with rear wheel drive. Valvers tend to go straight out of bends when wet, i couldnt get the power down lol

[Justin..]

pulling away can be a mission, spins like feck if you give it just a tad too much :shock:

[richy]

its a valver what can i say?






























runs away! :P

[Andyvalver]

:roll: lol

[Zollo]

Having driven both a Transit and a Williams, I can safely say the later would win even in conditions Noah's Ark would struggle in. All I can say is I'm glad I didn't buy a Valver if that's really the case :shock:

[Lunner]

If you even ease off the back end is gone or ont eh way to going, if you keep it planted get ready for dsome 4 wheel drifting, but as long as you keep it planyed you stay straight lol

[Swervin_Mervin]

You big girls. :wink:

I had a right laugh the other night coming off a roundabout. Started running wide as I was going too fast, so lifted off to bring the back end in to play and then buried the throttle. Wicked. :twisted:

I reckon they're great in the wet and having driven some less sporty newer cars I'd much sooner have the valver. The vectra I had was a disgrace.

[Justin..]

lol, yeah you can boot it instead of turning off a roundabout lol just slides

[Purple]

May also be that the van driver could be very familiar on those roads. That, and slippery surfaces equalises the performance difference quite a bit.

Plus on the Clio, a good set of performance tyres is more telling in the wet than in the dry. Case in point for me was SP9000 tyres. Felt good on the dry until I hit the first patch of rain it became very unpredictable. Brand new tyres and suppose to be designed for wet running but proved otherwise.

[clowo16v]

Now i've got the new tyres on I can't get my car to understeer even in standing water. Just grips and grips and the backend goes out lol. Good fun.

See ya

Matt

[Mattie]

once wen exiting a round about at high speeds i changed my mind at which exit i was goin 2 take and at the last minute turned the wheel 2 the right .......ended up drifting around the round about at about 50mph :shock:

was gd fun though :D

[J o n]

if you have the balls and the throttle control you can go almost as quick in the wet as in the dry, just have to pick your lines right. the only problem is if and when you do need that bit of grip your buggered... but they still handle amazingly well.

[arj256]

I had a little play in the wet and was suprised how well my valver gripped, had plenty of grip.
What tyres are you running? is it lowered?
Im on standard shocks/springs and 185/55/15 perhaps these profile tyres are better for the wet?

[J o n]

i'm on same as you arj, with knackered PE2's though, worn down to 1st marker and no shoulder on them... but in the dry they grip like slicks now on the walls... pmsl

[arj256]

Lol good fun when your on the marker, remember driving with my mum in the car and aquaplaining for a few seconds, mum wasnt pleased :roll:
I have some klebers on the front at the moment (the ones which stromba goes on about) and i would say there good tyres actually.

[Lunner]

You sound supprised lol

Remember when we went to donnignotn and it was wet first thingl, i was runnign eagle f1's that had worn that much that you coudl barley make out teh tread pattern lol

[J o n]

I wont put anything but PE2's on from now on, they are that good...

[Lunner]

Tried F1's on teh arse end and Proxies on teh fronts, awesome in teh dry and in the wet but shite in the damp esp from cold.

Not a fan of the F1's either tbh back end doesn't have a massive amoutn of grip, gonna swap front to back and back to front etc

[Jamie.]

dont know what tyres i have yoko a529's or summit on front and eagle f1's on back and in the wet its shite!

[Daz.]

I wont put anything but PE2's on from now on, they are that good...

Whats are zeze?

I can outdrive myself in the wet in the transit connect I have at the moment due to the turd tyres on the clio - saying that though the short wheel base connect I've got while mines being fixed is a dog compared its just as bad as the valver in wet - understeers more than any other car/van i've driven.

[Swervin_Mervin]

F1s beat the PE2 runners though at Haynes didn't they? (FM excluded) :P

[clowo16v]

When I bought mine it had nackered PE2's on the back and new Avon ZV3s on the front, and it used to understeer like buggery. I put new ZV3s on the back and it wasn't any better, but now the F1s are on the front its nicely balanced most of the time.

I think its a case of testing different tyres to see how you like the feel, as some people prefer cars to be understeery, but I prefer mine to be oversteery, and with the shit ZV3s on the back which are shit in the wet and damp thats what its like.

See ya

Matt

[2 live]

mines runnin on knackered pe2s.... its great fun in the wet, can get it understeering, or spinning the wheels up with just a dab hehe....


had 4 ppl in on the way back from the chinese the other week..wet road....unfortunately the verbal limiter that is the mrs stopped play, came a bit close to a kerb tho on the exit of a bit of a drift

jus put the rear pe2s on the front....mite have a bit more grip now lol

[FlamingMonkey]

F1s beat the PE2 runners though at Haynes didn't they? (FM excluded) :P

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[Martin]

But then again Gaz and Mark were running toyos?

[kj16v]

Wet days seem to remind valvers that they're lightweight shopping trolleys with oversized engines shoehorned into the front. One damp shiny road on a bend and you're DOOMED!! Suddenly your pointing the direction you just came from.
Its not the front end you have to wory about, it's the rear

Handles great in the dry though 8)

[Craig]

i drive slower than my nan in the wet! or crap conditions! in any car!

just not worth the risk!