0385 For Sale

[Lew]

Hi all, it’s been a while.
The time has come to sell my car.
Williams Clio No. 0385

As some of you will be aware, it has been “restored” and there are posts on here
with photos detailing some of the work done.

This car has had a huge amount of work done to it both mechanically and body.

I will be finishing detailing the inside in the next week or two as weather permits.

The car has been owned from new by my brother in law who owned it till I agreed to
take it of his hands and undertake the restoration.

It has about 109000 miles on it.

I think it may be better to pm me if you want more details but the car wants for very little.

I am looking for £12k

Would consider a px for a 7 type car. Dax, Caterham, Westy

If you want to ring and chat, you can get me on 07787 517385

The car will have a 12 month mot

Thanks for looking,

Lewis

[Lew]

I was thinking of trying to upload some photos but don't seem to be able to get Photobucket to work.

Any advice??

[Lew]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rzxn0dndtfvmg1k/IMG_2341.JPG?dl=0

Just testing to see if I can get Dropbox links to work

Kinda works, any other advice on how to display photos be most welcome.

[Lew]

Below is a response to an enquiry another forum member made about the scope of work.
This was about 6 months ago. Since then the car has done 2 miles.

The summary of work goes something like this:
Mechanical components fitted to get it through Mot plus
parts I wanted fitting just to bring it up to standard.
In no particular order:
Front & Rear calipers, discs, pads, hoses, brake pipes.
New Catalytic converter
Front top strut mountings
Clutch and cable
Alternator and starter motor
Timing belt kit and water pump
Engine core plugs
Silicone hose set
Oil cooler
Battery
Coolant Header Tank
Reman power rack and power steer pipes
Powerflex wishbone bushes
Full engine service to include oil filter, fuel filter, air filter,
Spark plugs,
Oil pressure switch
Fan belt

Off the top of my head that covers most of the mechanicals.
The file showing what was purchased and fitted is at work and I'm now at home and not due back till Friday.

Body wise, again extensive.
Inner and outer sills replaced.
Rear arches were solid with no rust so were stripped and cleaned and made ready for a full respray.
Drivers door had been crow barred so sourced another and was fitted.
New Bonnet (genuine Renault)
New headlights
New fog lights
New front indicator lenses
New bonnet and light strips fitted
New (Williams) sill cover stickers fitted (£80 each)
Full respray
New windscreen
Engine and all front suspension removed to best repaint all engine bay and inner wings, bulk head etc
Engine block acid etched and painted
Gearbox same
All transmission parts (driveshafts etc) stripped, painted and rebuilt.
Same goes for all suspension parts including a full refurb of front subframe and powder coating
Many components powder coated to include timing belt cover, plenum chamber, rocker cover plus more
New Spark Plug Cover
New Thatcham Cat 1 alarm/immobiliser fitted
New Tyres
New Bluetooth Head Unit (Pioneer I think)

I think that's most of it but doubtless I've forgotten some stuff.

I have quite a lot of photos and can probably make them available for you to look at via Photobucket.
The car was supplied new to my brother in law as his company car. It was maintained regardless of cost. I believe it has full dealer service stamps up to around 60,000 or so from memory.
Unfortunately, all receipts for work carried out in it's company owned years are probably still within that companies archives or more likely binned.
After it was owned by the company, my bro-in law bought it from them and ran it as his own till around 2006 when he took it off the road for future plans. Never got round to them and rather than scrap it, I took it on. If I'd only known the work and cost I probably wouldn't have bothered.
Having said that, it could of been done easier and cheaper but my OCD won't allow it 😉

Hope that gives you a flavour.
The only bit not lavished in attention and money is the interior. It's all there and pretty sound. Small tear in drivers seat. Odd carpet stain and slightly faded plastics on lower door cards.
Has a superb 90's sound system with Focal Labs sub and 6 x9's and component fronts with separate amp.
Sounds superb.

[ianbirch]

Hi..you can use the uploader to put up pics...they need to be under 2 meg. Use the link below to explain.

Regards Ian

http://williamsclio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?45838-24-Dimma-Clio&p=439075#post439075

[Lew]

Cheers Ian, unfortunately I don’t see an option to select “basic uploader “ at the bottom of the Insert image window.

Presumably links to Photobucket no longer work. ?.?

[ianbirch]

Wankbucket disabled direct image linking quite some time ago... when you click on the image uploader basic uploader should be in the bottom right corner of the window that pops up...if it isn't try clicking on From Computer

in the top left and maybe Choose File will appear.

http://williamsclio.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8745&stc=1


http://williamsclio.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8746&stc=1

Regards Ian

[Lew]

Managed to get this to work whilst at work (ssshhh don't tell the boss)

Pic is from August ish last year

http://williamsclio.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8747&stc=1

[Lew]

Managed to fettle body work a bit this weekend, though didn't get opportunity to detail interior.

Few pics to encourage any interest.
There are few out there as clean and well sorted as this car.

A few pics in a suitable res for the uploader

http://williamsclio.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8749&stc=1

http://williamsclio.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8750&stc=1

http://williamsclio.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8751&stc=1

http://williamsclio.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8752&stc=1

http://williamsclio.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8753&stc=1

http://williamsclio.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8754&stc=1

http://williamsclio.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8755&stc=1

[Lew]

Just back from Mot, sailed through with a little wriggling over emissions.

[Lew]

Gotta say I'm surprised by not a whiff of interest.

I'll probably use it a bit over summer then put it to bed for a while.

[ianbirch]

Gotta say I'm surprised by not a whiff of interest.

I'll probably use it a bit over summer then put it to bed for a while.

Yeah odd that isn't it Lew... might just be that this site doesn't get so much passing traffic.

Maybe it would be better shown off on the Williamsclio Facebook page...that seems to get more use.

Regards Ian

[Ayli Carper]

Don't think it costs anything to advertise on Car and Classic.

I think that mileage over 100k is a killer for selling these cars at a decent price, potential buyers not realising that a high mileage car well looked after is a much better bet than a low mileage car with hidden rust about to burst out all over the place.

My children are bored when there's mould on a piece of bread that's within date when yet again I say "Always buy on condition and never on mileage".

You've got a lovely car, don't undersell it.

[fresh]

Don't think it costs anything to advertise on Car and Classic.

I think that mileage over 100k is a killer for selling these cars at a decent price, potential buyers not realising that a high mileage car well looked after is a much better bet than a low mileage car with hidden rust about to burst out all over the place.

My children are bored when there's mould on a piece of bread that's within date when yet again I say "Always buy on condition and never on mileage".

You've got a lovely car, don't undersell it.


agreed i got mine to drive not look at so the mileage will go up. Cars are meant to be driven not moth balled

[Lew]

Hi guys, all wise words indeed and thanks for the comments and support.

I think for me it's a personal case of the car not floating my boat too much.
Don't get me wrong, having done 50 miles or so this past couple of weeks
it does make me smile but not as much as I thought it would.

I am, at the mo, poised to take ownership of a Dax Rush which I intend to
have as a Sunday blast/Picnic with the missus 4 wheel bike as she refuses to
go on the bike anymore. Will also do some trackdays etc.

As regards Williams FB page, I do have a FB profile but it's rarely used.
I am pretty unfamiliar with how FB works so would appreciate any advice
on how to post an advert based on what I have posted previously on here.

I think you are dead right about condition and mileage Ayli. This one is most certainly sorted
and right. I reckon I've got about 13k in it so not even making money out of it.

There is a similar one on Fleabay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-L-RENAULT-CLIO-2-0-WILLIAMS-1-16V-3D-146-BHP/232761235650?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.S EED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D51002%26meid%3Dff9bc23048334c f78ed30e7bf844f766%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3 D15%26sd%3D253608598595%26itm%3D232761235650&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A2312d259-550a-11e8-9baa-74dbd1801aa4%7Cparentrq%3A4ed97c611630a9c56bb95c97 fff7aa6a%7Ciid%3A1

I think mine compares favourably and around a grand less.

Well, I'm certainly not going to sweat it or let it go any cheaper. It's a fine example of a rare car and
if it doesn't sell, it will go in to storage for a while.

Cheers y'all

I also agree with fresh, I would like to think a new owner would get the pleasure that I'm just not feeling.

[Lew]

Stuck it on Car and Classic, thanks Ayli

we'll see what happens

[Nutbehinddawheel]

For what it’s worth & you may have this covered,but if I were considering the purchase of any restored car,I would expect a fully documented file with photos and invoices for all of the parts fitted.
GLWS

[Lew]

Yup, agree with that to some extent.

i have a lot of Service history before restore and plenty of pics and receipts
and records proving the time and money spent.
all the original documents, manual and service book etc
A superb example for anybody

[white16valver]

I don't get this "OMG 100k miles it's about to explode!!!1!" mindset. It's not the 1970s FFS.

It's almost as bad as the "OMG 100mph!! You will die!!!!" people - nothing magical happens because 2 digits changes to 3... :neutral: lol


People on the continent are a lot less bothered about mileage AIUI, because 100k kilometres is only about 60k miles, which is nothing, so cars pass that mark much sooner and it's not such a mental hurdle.

One of our cars has just ticked over 210k miles and the other has just passed 155k now, and we're doing 35k a year or more between us. The valver was on 170k+ IIRC. Even the ex's Renault 19 1.4 was on 175k-ish when we sold it.

Mileage is nothing to be afraid of. I'd much rather a car was a 'Trigger's Broom', used and kept in good condition, than one that had sat in a garage for years, going out two weekends a year for a gentle 50 mile round trip, with dried-up bushes and seizing-up moving parts.


And besides, they were made to be driven! What are you going to do on your deathbed - have year after year of memories of staring at it in the garage, wanting to go for a drive in it but too scared because it might lose some value? Or think back through a huge selection of awesome memories of epic drives and roadtrips to new and exciting places, with some slightly hairy 'moments' burned in to your memory :D lol

[fresh]

I don't get this "OMG 100k miles it's about to explode!!!1!" mindset. It's not the 1970s FFS.

It's almost as bad as the "OMG 100mph!! You will die!!!!" people - nothing magical happens because 2 digits changes to 3... :neutral: lol


People on the continent are a lot less bothered about mileage AIUI, because 100k kilometres is only about 60k miles, which is nothing, so cars pass that mark much sooner and it's not such a mental hurdle.

One of our cars has just ticked over 210k miles and the other has just passed 155k now, and we're doing 35k a year or more between us. The valver was on 170k+ IIRC. Even the ex's Renault 19 1.4 was on 175k-ish when we sold it.

Mileage is nothing to be afraid of. I'd much rather a car was a 'Trigger's Broom', used and kept in good condition, than one that had sat in a garage for years, going out two weekends a year for a gentle 50 mile round trip, with dried-up bushes and seizing-up moving parts.


And besides, they were made to be driven! What are you going to do on your deathbed - have year after year of memories of staring at it in the garage, wanting to go for a drive in it but too scared because it might lose some value? Or think back through a huge selection of awesome memories of epic drives and roadtrips to new and exciting places, with some slightly hairy 'moments' burned in to your memory :D lol


as above

[Ayli Carper]

Not entirely surprised you're struggling to love the car.

Thread on an old Porsche forum about post restoration ennui:

http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=55166

I preferred my Clio before I worked on it, driving it in the snow and not caring about it.

[ianbirch]

Not entirely surprised you're struggling to love the car.

Thread on an old Porsche forum about post restoration ennui:

http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=55166

I preferred my Clio before I worked on it, driving it in the snow and not caring about it.

Different people get pleasure from different things...I do totally get the "it must be used camp" but what I don't get is their attitude to those who don't want to do that....re white16valvers earlier post.

Although my one does not get used in winter it certainly gets used enough to keep me happy....and does get pushed occasionally, as in the race with a Cooper Works Mini which I just about managed to stay in front of after much squealing and chattering
of tyres (Michelin Pilots) and to be fair afterwards I wish I hadn't.

Regards Ian

[Lucas163]

Hello is it still for sale?

[northy]

Great to see another XNP again. I have L717XNP (0171)

cars looking fantastic mate, can you update us if it sold ?