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Frimley111R
23-02-2015, 12:54
Couldn't see anything on here and thought it's probably an interesting topic...

Ayli Carper
23-02-2015, 14:24
Oscar Wilde said that a cynic was a man who knew the price of everything and the value of nothing.

The price of a Clio Williams is always too much if you want to buy, and too little if you want to sell.

But the value of a Clio Williams is infinite.

It's a cynical world out there.

Frimley111R
23-02-2015, 17:04
Hehe. Indeed. its odd that I see everything from £1500 to £6500 for not dissimilar cars.

Ayli Carper
23-02-2015, 18:16
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If £6950 wasn't going to look expensive in ten minutes, six weeks ago, what could they be worth now?

The trouble is, unless you've got a long term, documented rebuild, month after painstaking month of work, you never know what you're going to find underneath or in the engine. And if you HAVE got that kind of back up, the person who did it is in all likelihood never going to sell.

If it was really that good, either waxoyled from new with internal photography to prove it was all-original, or rebuilt to concours standard, it wouldn't be unreasonable to put it up for 10K. I don't think the vendor would get it, and the worst thing is, if you bought, would you ever drive it how it's meant to be driven?

ianbirch
23-02-2015, 20:04
He he.... value threads....bring it on.

Oh by the way Frimley there have been endlessssssssssssssssssssss threads on values.

Cheers Ian

Jon555
23-02-2015, 20:35
A car is only worth what someone is willing to pay. the same thing is happening to values of Porsche 996 turbos , 2 years ago nobody wanted to know them. 2 years on the values are flying rising 10 k in 6 months.

i can remember the RS turbo price boom in the mid 90's , junk was changing hands for silly money. Some people got burned

Wobba
24-02-2015, 00:53
Prices seem to have stabilised and started to rise on a variety of cars, even 182 RS's and 172 seem to be on the up...

16v_paddy
24-02-2015, 03:07
Climbing values is the main reason I bought mine to restore. I ought to make a start on it but the longer I leave it, the more it goes up in value :-D

northy
24-02-2015, 09:46
I bought mine because i like the cars. Could be worth £500 or £5000 and i would still love it the same.

Lew
24-02-2015, 13:36
Yup, with Northy on this one. Hope I never get to the point where I'm that broke I have to flog it.

Still, early days for me yet. Only got to see it hands on for the first time this weekend since buying it in December.

Can't say I luv it yet, probably never will as I don't think that way about cars anymore. Used to but I was younger.
Had some nice cars that I really liked. Had a good look under it this weekend and happy to report it looks solid.

Will get some pics next time I'm with it.

I think the pleasure is in ownership and use, not so much counting the return on investment.

Standaman94
24-02-2015, 16:08
I'll agree with that, personally I bought a Williams because I liked the car and it's the ultimate classic hot-hatch... I didn't buy it as an investment and to be honest I couldn't see myself selling it unless I got into some real financial difficulties.

16v_paddy
24-02-2015, 20:21
For me, the Williams is purely an investment but the car I have for the love of ownership is the J reg Tungsten Grey Valver that's got my name on it when the old lady that owns it can't drive anymore, that & the Valver track car 8-)

Danno
25-02-2015, 12:28
Agree with the above - well sort of. You have to love a tungy valver