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CAN ANY BODY TELL ME HOW MUCH BHP MY WILLY 2 CAN TAKE ON STANDARD INTERNALS
i dont know exactly lots tho, mine had no problems with 205 bhp 225ftlbs high comp plus turbo
my valver did 217bhp on standard compression and internals, low boost turbo
so u think it wud handle a 8k r.p.m map without goin pop i was thinking of puttin arp rod bolts in it for a bit of reassurance lol
my valver did 217bhp on standard compression and internals, low boost turbo
you were using standard f7p engine on low boost turbo ??:shock: :shock:
how long did it last ?
15k and only died due to some muppet leaving the chargecooler unplugged.................... :oops:
15k and only died due to some muppet leaving the chargecooler unplugged.................... :oops:
:P
whats low boost ? 8-9 psi ??
TALK TO ME BALD-MEISTER !!! :P
9psi it ran
lad who owned it before me left it undone, i never noticed, couldnt hear it pinking over the side exit and wasnt really knowledgeable about turbos at the time so i ran it for 1000 miles on the limiter every gear till it went :lol: so didnt do bad really!
robi1000
22-03-2010, 15:40
I think that F7P and especially F7R bore/stroke geometry isn't the most suitable for manic revving. You definitely need ARP bolts for 8000 RPM, but I'd invest in a good set of forged rods also. It would survive a few times on standard internals, but not for long. Long story short, from my experiance and from what I've read, std internals are strong enough as long as you don't rev them too high.
as above, good for handling power and torque but not so rev happy without work :wink:
volymmannen
22-03-2010, 22:11
Megane F7r and some forged rods, i dont want to be standard conrods in a turbo engine
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/volymmannen/DSC00475.jpg
9psi it ran
lad who owned it before me left it undone, i never noticed, couldnt hear it pinking over the side exit and wasnt really knowledgeable about turbos at the time so i ran it for 1000 miles on the limiter every gear till it went :lol: so didnt do bad really!
whats the rough size of the smallest INTERCOOLER you can
use for low bost coops ? pipe diameters etc ?
so u think it wud handle a 8k r.p.m map without goin pop i was thinking of puttin arp rod bolts in it for a bit of reassurance lol
standard rods will take huge horse power but not 8k rpm..even with uprated bolts..
9psi it ran
lad who owned it before me left it undone, i never noticed, couldnt hear it pinking over the side exit and wasnt really knowledgeable about turbos at the time so i ran it for 1000 miles on the limiter every gear till it went :lol: so didnt do bad really!
whats the rough size of the smallest INTERCOOLER you can
use for low bost coops ? pipe diameters etc ?
sorry an inter what a what? :P
9psi it ran
lad who owned it before me left it undone, i never noticed, couldnt hear it pinking over the side exit and wasnt really knowledgeable about turbos at the time so i ran it for 1000 miles on the limiter every gear till it went :lol: so didnt do bad really!
whats the rough size of the smallest INTERCOOLER you can
use for low bost coops ? pipe diameters etc ?
sorry an inter what a what? :P
stop being ghey , tis a matter of boost or death
TALK TO ME !!! :P
wat do u call huge power with standard rods
No point revving to 8k as there is no power there on standard internal setup...usually all downhill from about 6/6.5k revs.
so u think it wud handle a 8k r.p.m map without goin pop i was thinking of puttin arp rod bolts in it for a bit of reassurance lol
standard rods will take huge horse power but not 8k rpm..even with uprated bolts..
maxiboy is alive ? :shock:
sapnin yo ? :D :D
to shag yea i also built a 1.8 16v with huge ports (went ot with the die grinder) and cams the max power was at 8000 so it was reved to 8500 daily and buzzed to 9 a couple times. after a year and prob 20k on clock i took it appart just to see how ****ed it was, turned out to be good as new. only a little bore glazing. although the f7r is a long stroke torq monster so wont need reving any where that. my current megane f7r makes max power at 6100 so there is no point going past 6500
9psi it ran
lad who owned it before me left it undone, i never noticed, couldnt hear it pinking over the side exit and wasnt really knowledgeable about turbos at the time so i ran it for 1000 miles on the limiter every gear till it went :lol: so didnt do bad really!
whats the rough size of the smallest INTERCOOLER you can
use for low bost coops ? pipe diameters etc ?
sorry an inter what a what? :P
stop being ghey , tis a matter of boost or death
TALK TO ME !!! :P
i use 63mm boost pipework and a chargecooler, i know nothing about intercoolers, too lairy and look at me for my taste :wink:
i use 63mm boost pipework and a chargecooler, i know nothing about intercoolers, too lairy and look at me for my taste :wink:
how much does a cheap chargecooler set you back ? :cry:
scan ebay mate, ones for other cars come up quite often and can be had for 100 quid or so. then you need any extras that arent included such as boost pipework and sometimes pump/radiator/pipework for coolant
scan ebay mate, ones for other cars come up quite often and can be had for 100 quid or so. then you need any extras that arent included such as boost pipework and sometimes pump/radiator/pipework for coolant
yeah but what size am i looking at for low boost ??
obviously would like the smallest possible unit for ease of
fitment ,lightweight etc .
ohh and pics of your charge cooler or it did not happen !!! :P :D
wat do u call huge power with standard rods
see them used in a 400bhp engine...
i would say 350bhp to be totally safe..
i would never run standard rods to 8k and beyond myself..7k with decent bolts ..
so u think it wud handle a 8k r.p.m map without goin pop i was thinking of puttin arp rod bolts in it for a bit of reassurance lol
standard rods will take huge horse power but not 8k rpm..even with uprated bolts..
maxiboy is alive ? :shock:
sapnin yo ? :D :D
not a lot mate been to busy with work to do anything much...plus its been the winter..lol..
plus its been the winter..lol..
PU55Y :? :gay:
:D :P 8)
so u think it wud handle a 8k r.p.m map without goin pop i was thinking of puttin arp rod bolts in it for a bit of reassurance lol
standard rods will take huge horse power but not 8k rpm..even with uprated bolts..
maxiboy is alive ? :shock:
sapnin yo ? :D :D
not alot, ive been planning to go and see Craig for about 6months now, but never seem to make it, its no longer winter, i have no excuse, i hear his coffee is the best in the whole of the Ystradgynlais region?
volymmannen
24-03-2010, 22:43
i compared conrods
in pictures
willams
megane
F7p
big difference between F7R and F7R
http://193.164.196.30/images/457/4571872599.jpg
http://193.164.196.40/images/917/9174820970.jpg
http://193.164.196.40/images/919/9193488552.jpg
Megane rods are looking weakest :cry:
Megane rods are looking weakest :cry:
F4R rods look the same... and J o n is running decent power!
shak, i was using an rs turbo chargecooler setup, came from a car running 320bhp, used 51mm hose's, i bought it from an rs owners club for £100 and it included everything.
i also believe my setup ran a much better route than the one designed for the clio (which incidently is exactly the same as the 5 one).
ive just sold it for £250.
so u think it wud handle a 8k r.p.m map without goin pop i was thinking of puttin arp rod bolts in it for a bit of reassurance lol
standard rods will take huge horse power but not 8k rpm..even with uprated bolts..
maxiboy is alive ? :shock:
sapnin yo ? :D :D
not alot, ive been planning to go and see Craig for about 6months now, but never seem to make it, its no longer winter, i have no excuse, i hear his coffee is the best in the whole of the Ystradgynlais region?
lol! I can vouch for the coffee...It's filtered through a set of Jenveys and a sausage filter for the perfect texture!
are the meggy conrods the same size as the valver/williams ones? would i need new pistons or should they work just fine? got a meggy b/e and a set of spare willy rods just want the extra strength.
cheers
volymmannen
19-04-2010, 18:02
are the meggy conrods the same size as the valver/williams ones? would i need new pistons or should they work just fine? got a meggy b/e and a set of spare willy rods just want the extra strength.
cheers
should be the same,if you got willy ones compare,or measure so i can compare with the megane rods..
they aint at my house at the min like and meggy ones are in the block. was just gonna strip it down n stick willy ones in cos they look alot stronger jus wanna check they'll still work. Think probably yeah as they f7r too.
cheers mate
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