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JoćoCosta
09-02-2010, 00:30
Does anyone have the specifications of the clio maxi parts??
like wishbones, ARB, subframe and hubs, coilovers etc...

Does anyone have specific dimensions about that specific parts of clio maxi??
Or material used, methods of fabrication


Regards
MAXIBOY
09-02-2010, 01:16
answered on clio16v mate...i have most things
JoćoCosta
09-02-2010, 02:30
answered on clio16v mate...i have most things

I'm waiting for that :wink:
simonr85
09-02-2010, 09:29
here is some group A part numbers from renault (http://www.36t.co.uk/maxi/catalog.php?cat=8)

diagrams provided by Maxiboy
simonr85
09-02-2010, 09:43
sorry the above was group A

This is maxi part numbers (http://www.36t.co.uk/maxi/catalog.php?cat=4)
simonr85
09-02-2010, 09:57
and this is some quite good info on the assembly (http://www.36t.co.uk/maxi/catalog.php?cat=6)
JoćoCosta
09-02-2010, 10:25
Thanks Simon :wink: , but i have everything like this site :D ....

What i'm looking for is, for example, de dimensions of one wishbone, because they have more length, dimensions of an hub because again they diferent in points of attachement, uses a wheel bearing more sofisticated and i'm searching these details

Hope you can understand me :wink:
Wobba
09-02-2010, 10:29
I'd like to know the length of the trumpets they use for the ITB's and how the hell they fit that air box in!

http://www.36t.co.uk/maxi/rwx_gallery/bv000063.jpg
JoćoCosta
10-02-2010, 19:30
Wobba, the trumpets differ in size depending in what situation do you use the engine....like circuit or rally or even fast road and track car...
Wobba
10-02-2010, 19:56
If I have ten foot trumpets, will it help?
JoćoCosta
10-02-2010, 20:39
If I have ten foot trumpets, will it help?

help in what?? if it's adequate or not for your engine??depends the preparation you have...

but briefly, short trumpets gives you torque and long trumpets gives you peak torque
JoćoCosta
10-02-2010, 20:39
My mistake

long trumpets gives you peak horsepower...
volymmannen
10-02-2010, 20:54
well i have heard the opposite, long for better low down torque and short for peak power
JoćoCosta
10-02-2010, 21:03
well i have heard the opposite, long for better low down torque and short for peak power

today is not my day :lol: :lol: ....volymmannen is right...

today i don't write more..lol
Laine_16v
10-02-2010, 22:14
My mistake

long trumpets gives you peak horsepower...

Are you sure???? I think you may have it round the wrong way.

A longer inlet tract will yeald a greater fatter spread of torque, BUT *should* have little effect on peak BHP figures.

THe short you go, the more torque you sacrifice, but peak bhp will remain around the same.

There of course plenty of science behind it, you base the length on the cubic capactiy of the engine, its operating RPM, and other variables.

But as far as the world of clios goes, get it as long as you possibly can fit underneath the bonnet.
stan
10-02-2010, 23:23
:lol:
2 live
11-02-2010, 00:43
but this would also depend on the position of the injectors....stand offs would also give greater gains at higher rpm, compared to the better lowdown of injectors closer to the head/valves. etc.

best bet would be to have 8 injectors switching between from low to high revs. 4 near head, 4 stand offs.
Wobba
11-02-2010, 00:55
but this would also depend on the position of the injectors....stand offs would also give greater gains at higher rpm, compared to the better lowdown of injectors closer to the head/valves. etc.

best bet would be to have 8 injectors switching between from low to high revs. 4 near head, 4 stand offs.

I know of F7R's with 8 injectors.

Surely the butterfly's in ITB's make a bit of a hash of the airflow? I've heard of the injector positioning stuff as well 2 Live. Do Jenveys generally have a good injector position? I would guess so for what they are for.
Laine_16v
11-02-2010, 08:39
My F4R is going to have 8 injectors :)
JoćoCosta
11-02-2010, 09:23
And how can you put 8 injectors on a small space like that??
stan
11-02-2010, 09:35
4 in the head, 4 in the bell mouth opening.
JoćoCosta
11-02-2010, 10:10
4 in the head, 4 in the bell mouth opening.

Right, but in case of crash??

Do you have a pic of this??
volymmannen
11-02-2010, 14:30
4 in the head, 4 in the bell mouth opening.

Right, but in case of crash??


i think you have bigger problems after a crash :lol:
2 live
11-02-2010, 18:58
but this would also depend on the position of the injectors....stand offs would also give greater gains at higher rpm, compared to the better lowdown of injectors closer to the head/valves. etc.

best bet would be to have 8 injectors switching between from low to high revs. 4 near head, 4 stand offs.

I know of F7R's with 8 injectors.

Surely the butterfly's in ITB's make a bit of a hash of the airflow? I've heard of the injector positioning stuff as well 2 Live. Do Jenveys generally have a good injector position? I would guess so for what they are for.

not sure tbh. has been a while since i had a decent look at a t/b set up now.
Wobba
11-02-2010, 20:53
I almost bought a Sodemo F7R engine. It had 8 injectors and 300 bhp lol. I decided no because the thing would probably need to be detuned and maintained to the max.
JoćoCosta
11-02-2010, 21:04
I almost bought a Sodemo F7R engine. It had 8 injectors and 300 bhp lol. I decided no because the thing would probably need to be detuned and maintained to the max.

Can you send me more details about this engine by PM?
Wobba
11-02-2010, 21:09
I almost bought a Sodemo F7R engine. It had 8 injectors and 300 bhp lol. I decided no because the thing would probably need to be detuned and maintained to the max.

Can you send me more details about this engine by PM?

http://www.touringcarspares.com/images_new/parts/eng/002eeww.jpg

Renault /Sodemo Race engine , ex BTCC

BTCC Sodemo Renault Super touring 300BHP engine , loom , ECU etc.. This Sodemo engine was originally used in the BTCC in 94/95 , more recently its been used and developed for a Clio rally cross car with great success . Its always been looked after and inspected regularily at SMD in Kent where it was completely re-built before sale . It makes a shade under 300BHP on 8 injectors , an Airbox is included alongside the ECU and a wiring loom . Great value horsepower !
Price: £6,950
JoćoCosta
11-02-2010, 22:34
I never seen a engine likes this producing 300hp, must be a extremly powerfull engine
Wobba
11-02-2010, 22:45
I never seen a engine likes this producing 300hp, must be a extremly powerfull engine

Sodemo mate. Look them up. Serious pro outfit, make a lot of very high power racing car engines.
2 live
11-02-2010, 23:49
how long ago was this mate. i seem to remember this being for sale a number of years ago now. same advert etc.
Wobba
11-02-2010, 23:51
how long ago was this mate. i seem to remember this being for sale a number of years ago now. same advert etc.

It's still for sale. They have just revamped the add.
Tommo
12-02-2010, 00:23
It's not really a viable option for a road car though, as you say it would need constant maintanence. I'd rather go the flan turbo VAG route for serious HP, then you would have power and reliability
MAXIBOY
12-02-2010, 10:23
i would say maintenance is not the reason for using in a road car..it just needs standard maintenance really..

the reason is that it probably has a very very peaky high narrow power band thats not usable on a road car.. though being a rally cross engine this is only a guess..
rs250
28-04-2010, 22:32
Is that the engine touring car spares had for sale?
Wobba
01-05-2010, 23:23
Is that the engine touring car spares had for sale?

Yes. Dunno if it still is.
vkosho
01-05-2010, 23:38
very impressive. loving that manifold as well!