1991 Clio 16V with Volvo T4 engine

[djwilma]

I know this is a williams forum but i thought you guys may want to see my latest project.

Its a 1991 16V with a 1.9 Volve T4 engine, running a JC5 gearbox.

Sub frame needed to be modded and so did the drive shafts, as engine is longer. A lot of jiggery pokery but its in an running.....

Needs the body work sorting and a few mechanical items cleaning up but its already quicker than my std Scooby and its only really been mapped properly to 5000rpm

[kj16v]

Hi. T4 in a Clio, that's a new one! Don't know anything about Volvo T4 engines. More info please!

[volymmannen]

200hp 300Nm its a T5 engine that volvo cut of 1 cyl ..

[djwilma]

dont think its the T5 with a cylinder chopped off, but its roughly the same engine as the N7Q fitted to the 2.0 16v Laguna which is a volvo engine, hence why the jc5 box fits

engine has omex 600 ecu and rolling roaded to 250bhp....just have to sort out a few small problems and i'll be out and about getting some 1.4 mile times

[16v_paddy]

200hp 300Nm its a T5 engine that volvo cut of 1 cyl ..

And the T5 engine is the T6 with a cylinder chopped off :wink: they're all pretty much the same, they're made with the same casts plus or minus the 5 cylinders

[volymmannen]

dont think its the T5 with a cylinder chopped off, but its roughly the same engine as the N7Q fitted to the 2.0 16v Laguna which is a volvo engine, hence why the jc5 box fits

engine has omex 600 ecu and rolling roaded to 250bhp....just have to sort out a few small problems and i'll be out and about getting some 1.4 mile times
you dont think, and i know.. the N7Q is also a bigger engine with cyl cut of..

The 40 Series cars were equipped with four-cylinder engines, such as a 1.9L turbo diesel or 1.6 (1588 cc), 1.8 (1731 cc), 2.0T (1948 cc), 1.9 T4 (1855 cc) or 2.0l (1948 cc) fuel-injected gasoline engines all of which are derivatives of the modular whiteblock engine series that started life in the Volvo 960 and carried in both 5 and 6 cyl formats in Volvo's bigger FWD cars. there was also a 1.8L (1834 cc) Gasoline direct injection engine provided by Mitsubishi as part of the platform sharing between the 40 series and the charisma.

[volymmannen]

200hp 300Nm its a T5 engine that volvo cut of 1 cyl ..

And the T5 engine is the T6 with a cylinder chopped off :wink: they're all pretty much the same, they're made with the same casts plus or minus the 5 cylinders
YES :thumbsup:

[djwilma]

dont think its the T5 with a cylinder chopped off, but its roughly the same engine as the N7Q fitted to the 2.0 16v Laguna which is a volvo engine, hence why the jc5 box fits

engine has omex 600 ecu and rolling roaded to 250bhp....just have to sort out a few small problems and i'll be out and about getting some 1.4 mile times
you dont think, and i know.. the N7Q is also a bigger engine with cyl cut of..

The 40 Series cars were equipped with four-cylinder engines, such as a 1.9L turbo diesel or 1.6 (1588 cc), 1.8 (1731 cc), 2.0T (1948 cc), 1.9 T4 (1855 cc) or 2.0l (1948 cc) fuel-injected gasoline engines all of which are derivatives of the modular whiteblock engine series that started life in the Volvo 960 and carried in both 5 and 6 cyl formats in Volvo's bigger FWD cars. there was also a 1.8L (1834 cc) Gasoline direct injection engine provided by Mitsubishi as part of the platform sharing between the 40 series and the charisma.

then i am surprised you havent done this conversion already !

[robi1000]

Would a T5 engine fit into clio bay? :twisted:

[16v_paddy]

Would a T5 engine fit into clio bay? :twisted:

Not a chance :( my m8 has a spare T5 engine and we've been busy with a tape measure & my valver - possibility it will go in the back though :twisted:

[volymmannen]

dont think its the T5 with a cylinder chopped off, but its roughly the same engine as the N7Q fitted to the 2.0 16v Laguna which is a volvo engine, hence why the jc5 box fits

engine has omex 600 ecu and rolling roaded to 250bhp....just have to sort out a few small problems and i'll be out and about getting some 1.4 mile times
you dont think, and i know.. the N7Q is also a bigger engine with cyl cut of..

The 40 Series cars were equipped with four-cylinder engines, such as a 1.9L turbo diesel or 1.6 (1588 cc), 1.8 (1731 cc), 2.0T (1948 cc), 1.9 T4 (1855 cc) or 2.0l (1948 cc) fuel-injected gasoline engines all of which are derivatives of the modular whiteblock engine series that started life in the Volvo 960 and carried in both 5 and 6 cyl formats in Volvo's bigger FWD cars. there was also a 1.8L (1834 cc) Gasoline direct injection engine provided by Mitsubishi as part of the platform sharing between the 40 series and the charisma.

then i am surprised you havent done this conversion already !

I will use a megane F7R and a Saab 9-5 aero turbo in my R5..
get more pictures and info when you are ready.. i am interested in the result..

[robi1000]

Not a chance :( my m8 has a spare T5 engine and we've been busy with a tape measure & my valver - possibility it will go in the back though :twisted:

Eh, too bad!

Where does it get stuck?

[volymmannen]

Not a chance :( my m8 has a spare T5 engine and we've been busy with a tape measure & my valver - possibility it will go in the back though :twisted:

Eh, too bad!

Where does it get stuck?
If you have to modd the drive shafts to mount the 4cyl where are you going to put cyl nr5 ?? the car is to small..

[robi1000]

I don't think that modding the driveshafts is a sign of non-fitting engine. In Pug/C!troen world we do it all the time (say if you want to put newer gearbox model on old TU engines...). In short, engines and their gearboxes fit, just driveshaft length is wrong.

I know that clio engine bay is small, but what if I told you that you could fit a T16 engine with it's gearbox in a bay as small as that of a C!troen AX?!? And that's without any cutting!

So unless somebody actually measured the engine and figured that it wouldn't fit, there's always a chance. I'm no Volvo expert, all I'm trying to say is that sometimes things that seem so obviously impossible, are in fact quite doable (AX T16).

Just a thought and I hope there's no offence taken!

Cheers

[16v_paddy]

According to my measurements................ :lol:

......you'd be able to get the bare lump in & maybe have to do a bit of chopping to get all the bits on, the only major hold up would be getting a gearbox on as that will need some fun with an angle grinder and a welder :twisted:

[djwilma]

as the T5 is a T4 with an additional cylinder, the T5 wont fit in the clio as it will be too long for the gearbox fitting, even with a JC5 box

the main reason the driveshafts had to be modded was the T4 engine is longer than the 1.8 16v unit.

We fitted the M56 box from the T4 but couldnt turn the wheels without them hitting, but it did fit !

But i dont see the need for the T5 unit, the T4 is hugely tuneable and so is a 1.8 20v Turbo VAG (the other option i had) and to be fair it needs the same amount of giggery pokery. I just wanted something different

Plus the weight of the T4 is more than the std engine so the T5 would be way too heavy....
A friend took the clio out today and clutch is naffed over 5000rpm but it was a lot quicker than my std scooby

once its finished i'll get more photos up, it just looks horrible at the moment so dont want too much abuse lmao

[robi1000]

That was what I wanted to hear. What a shame, I was already dreaming about five cylinder sound and super loud blowoffs all fitted in a clio maxi shell. I guess it will have to be the ubiquitous four pot in the end. :(

[volymmannen]

I don't think that modding the driveshafts is a sign of non-fitting engine. In Pug/C!troen world we do it all the time (say if you want to put newer gearbox model on old TU engines...). In short, engines and their gearboxes fit, just driveshaft length is wrong.

I know that clio engine bay is small, but what if I told you that you could fit a T16 engine with it's gearbox in a bay as small as that of a C!troen AX?!? And that's without any cutting!

So unless somebody actually measured the engine and figured that it wouldn't fit, there's always a chance. I'm no Volvo expert, all I'm trying to say is that sometimes things that seem so obviously impossible, are in fact quite doable (AX T16).

Just a thought and I hope there's no offence taken!

Cheers
he wrote
"Sub frame needed to be modded and so did the drive shafts, as engine is longer." the t5 is even longer and he used a jc5 box and that box fits without cutting drive shafts.. cant move the gearbox to far..

mount a 4cyl engine in a car that is built for 4cyl isn't that hard, mount a 5cyl engine in a fwd car built for a 4cyl engine is a big job....

[volymmannen]

That was what I wanted to hear. What a shame, I was already dreaming about five cylinder sound and super loud blowoffs all fitted in a clio maxi shell. I guess it will have to be the ubiquitous four pot in the end. :(

mid-engine rwd

[MAXIBOY]

decent conversion but i see one onf the main reason gong vag is for the so called superior gearbox..

as this conversion doesnt run an upgraded box might as well turbo the F7 lump in excess of 600bhp lol.

[djwilma]

tis a fair point but i wanted something very reliable as my last clio just broke all the time

feel the T4 engine at 250bhp would be reliable and quick

[MAXIBOY]

i agree the engine will be reliable ....not sure on the box.

plus my and a few others are running reliable F7's in excess of 250bhp


but very nice to see some thing different too.