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tony16v
02-09-2007, 21:45
Well after 2 years of motoring I had my first break down in the turbo today...

http://www.rtoc.org/library/fileroot/ZQQZPTKLCRMYQICRCHRC.jpg

Atleast its not turbo related....

MAXIBOY
02-09-2007, 21:57
another failure for kent.
can i have some more info please.

where they lock tited in. any noticeable difference before they failed. any signs. were they catching the head. were they the new bolts etc.

i have a set of these fitted.

might change them now. :roll:

MAXIBOY
02-09-2007, 21:58
oh and bad luck by the way.

has it done any other damage.

tony16v
02-09-2007, 22:05
another failure for kent.
can i have some more info please.

where they lock tited in. any noticeable difference before they failed. any signs. were they catching the head. were they the new bolts etc.

i have a set of these fitted.

might change them now. :roll:

All parts were new mate....

I didnt notice anthing before, and was just going steady....

not sure about other damage, but will get the head off this week and check...

DONT FIT THEM!!

MAXIBOY
02-09-2007, 22:08
ok mate. will look around for some thing else :shock:

MatBrown
02-09-2007, 22:33
How the hell they are still in business i don't know!


Mat.

summeh
02-09-2007, 23:02
bloody hell.

Get an independant report done or something then take them to small claims court for damages. Unless of course they decide to reimburse you :wink:

Scougar
02-09-2007, 23:17
Piper :)

Matthew

stan
03-09-2007, 09:41
Catcams :wink: :D

Scougar
03-09-2007, 10:33
Seriously, that should not happen! That's is pretty worrying.

Is this a common failure point for kent? (i'd be worried about ANY failure of that part).

Matthew

stan
03-09-2007, 11:00
yes common on kent and also piper.

schakal
03-09-2007, 11:01
Catcams :wink: :D

whats the difference with cat cams than ??

Scougar
03-09-2007, 11:07
Catcams :wink: :D

whats the difference with cat cams than ??

Locktight ? ;)

Just messing. I had some piper verniers (old style) for my k-series engine (metro gti) along with my vvc cams (2 exhaust cams :D), and would have been very suprised if that happened. I see it more likely that the bolts holding the position would loosen up than the main bolts coming free.

As asked, what's the difference with the Catcams verniers? Do they have some sort of locking tab/mechanism?

Matthew

Scougar
03-09-2007, 11:08
Actually looking at that kent pic, it does look like those bolts are the timing adjusters that came loose :(

Matthew
p.s. BRING BACK THE EDIT BUTTON please :)

VIPERONE
03-09-2007, 11:41
it looks like you have the mild steel allen bolts. the upgrade was to high tensile i think.

that is arse and an a pain.

i think Kent will argue that the cams are designed for 150bhp rather than 250..lol

go cat cams!



on the plus side your turbo conversion has been flawless, its more or less a self build jobby which is quality in itself...

just a minor setback. hopefully not many valves are bent

clio_rsi_turbo
03-09-2007, 16:20
big set back for me, as i was about to go round and put a deposit down for buying it :cry:

tony16v
03-09-2007, 16:36
I'm going to get the head off tonight and check the damage...

Think I'm just going to refit the standard pullies...

Justin..
03-09-2007, 16:40
what cams are you running the engine?

Scougar
03-09-2007, 16:48
Make sure you fully document any damage, and send it to Kent cams. That is a component failure.

Matthew

MAXIBOY
03-09-2007, 19:32
Make sure you fully document any damage, and send it to Kent cams. That is a component failure.

Matthew

not according to kent cams and we can,t afford to take them to court.

its always poor fitting thats to blame. :roll:

jay s
03-09-2007, 20:19
any one know of this happening to a set of pipers? i know stan said it happens but ive only ever heard it about kent pulleys. any one got any pics ? sorry to see that tho tony :cry:

matty w
03-09-2007, 21:55
i've never heard of piper failing either,i hope not as i've just brought a set

stan
03-09-2007, 22:28
Ive seen a couple fail. I did have one in my workshop somewhere.

I was working on a Kseries at the weekend which had piper pulleys, but they were a totally different design....looked superior to their previous efforts.

jay s
03-09-2007, 22:39
Ive seen a couple fail. I did have one in my workshop somewhere.

I was working on a Kseries at the weekend which had piper pulleys, but they were a totally different design....looked superior to their previous efforts.

id like pictures of them failed on an engine not a picture of one youve just smashed with a hammer as it would'nt come off the engine :roll: :wink: on a serious note tho ive had my pipers in for 25k and not had one problem with them and me car gets alot of stick :D ( runs to touch wood )

Scougar
04-09-2007, 02:37
Ive seen a couple fail. I did have one in my workshop somewhere.

I was working on a Kseries at the weekend which had piper pulleys, but they were a totally different design....looked superior to their previous efforts.

Wasn't Matt Parkers by chance?

I think my pipers were the older 4 arm type, not the newer 3 arm that piper now make (since I last looked).

Fitment failure? If there wasn't a problem why would they change the design to high tensile bolts?

Matthew

tony16v
04-09-2007, 09:54
I've had the head off, its marked the top of the pistons but not damaged them....

so I'll get the head sorted and get it back on the road.....

Scougar
04-09-2007, 10:04
What damage to the head is there?

Matthew

tony16v
04-09-2007, 10:05
8 exhuast valves + 2 inlet valves....

Scougar
04-09-2007, 10:06
Ouch... that's gonna be a little expensive :(

You gonna stick with verniers or try stock pulleys? (Obviously being harder to adjust timing though :()

Matthew

tony16v
04-09-2007, 10:07
not sure yet... cos I have never adjusted them anyway...

northy
04-09-2007, 10:52
have u spoke to kent ???

tony16v
04-09-2007, 11:13
have u spoke to kent ???

I've emailed them, but had no feed back yet....

MAXIBOY
04-09-2007, 11:14
there e-mails are crap. phone them and have a chat.

Chet T16
04-09-2007, 12:02
Has anyone ever got any compo off them?