Williams wishbones and ARB.

[nath]

as above please, money waiting.
Am i correct in saying that some non 16v meganes have the same ARB as the willy?

nathan

[northy]

I have some second hand wishbones mate with rubbers still fitted.

£30 delivered.

[nath]

brilliant, you have PM

anyone know anymore about the ARB?

nathan

[Clio_GTT]

I've got an ARB and wishbones with rubbers

[u33db]

You'll get the ARB off a R19 16v cheaper, same with the wishbones

[AndyFielder]

also after ARB.. mite wide track and manual rack it whalst i have a spare subframe... arnt new wishbones really cheap £23 iirc

[stevie_b]

arnt new wishbones really cheap £23 iirc

So I've heard. Thinking of buying a new pair at the weekend before I put my poly bushes in. Does anyone know if the ball joint comes fitted in the wishbones you get from GSF?

[AndyFielder]

good plan. I believe they do.. from my awful memory...
mite join you in a (white themed) new front end williams style!

[northy]

arnt new wishbones really cheap £23 iirc

So I've heard. Thinking of buying a new pair at the weekend before I put my poly bushes in. Does anyone know if the ball joint comes fitted in the wishbones you get from GSF?

yes mate - but u need the strengthing plate of the originals

[AndyFielder]

can you buy this from renault?

i dont think i know what bit your on about northy!?

[northy]

there is a plate that fits on the inside of the wishbones thats the ball joint bolts go through on a williams.....

[stevie_b]

Will I get that plate in it if I ask for the Williams wishbones from them? Has anyone got a GSF part number from a previous purchase so I can make sure I'm requesting the right thing? Thanks

[northy]

no steve. u need to use the existing plate

[nath]

so you would need to get the plate off a willy wishbone, so would make sense getting willy wishbones in the first place? does the 19 have a strengthening plate too? are the ball joints the same as a willys?
I would presume the 19 16v set up would be identical to the williams set up for manufacturing cost purposes...... but we are talking about reno here :roll:

[Clio_GTT]

no steve. u need to use the existing plate

my GSF wishbones came with the strengthening plates

[AndyFielder]

were those williams or 19 wishbones?... from GSF

[Clio_GTT]

were those williams or 19 wishbones?... from GSF

R19

[AndyFielder]

ok, sounds good!

someone mentioned the 19 ones have a slightly different angle on the ball joint, so they fail more regularly.

Andy

[nath]

I heard that too ^^^^ can you buy willy ball joints speratly?

[AndyFielder]

cose you can!.. about £12 each i believe.

[AndyFielder]

dont suppose anyone would be kind enough to post pics of the reenforcement bit, so i know if im getting what i need from GSF.

Andy

[nath]

i'd be interested to see what you get for your £25 from GSF, ball joint, strenghtening plate? or just the wishbone. seems too cheap for that lot.

while were on the subject, 19 16v ploybushes are the same as the willy kit?

[Clio_GTT]

dont suppose anyone would be kind enough to post pics of the reenforcement bit, so i know if im getting what i need from GSF.

Andy

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f360/Clio16v-widetrack/DSC01888.jpg

plate ontop of the wishbone that the balljoint bolts through

[Clio_GTT]

i'd be interested to see what you get for your £25 from GSF, ball joint, strenghtening plate? or just the wishbone. seems too cheap for that lot.

while were on the subject, 19 16v ploybushes are the same as the willy kit?

Don't bother with poly bushes, std is the way to go, yes R19 are the same tho

[nath]

so is all that lot from GSF, ARB too? i see reno bags tho. and are they r19 wishbones? (£25 from GSF) sorry for all the questions.

[Clio_GTT]

so is all that lot from GSF, ARB too? i see reno bags tho. and are they r19 wishbones? (£25 from GSF) sorry for all the questions.

All genuine renault from renault apart from the R19 wishbones which i got from GSF

[nath]

was the ARB expensive? you havnt got a list of part numbers have you so I could price it all up? were you giving your car williams wide track?

[stevie_b]

Why is nothing ever simple?!? I'm totally confused now :lol: I'll try to take the balljoint off my current willy wishbones and post a pic to aid the discussion. I'm replacing the bushes with poly ones anyway so the only old parts would be the wishbones and the balljoint. If there is doubt on which new wishbones I'll end up buying maybe its safer just buy the balljoints and reuse the wishbones I already have? If I did that then everything will be new apart from the metal wishbone itself, which isn't a component that really 'wears' anyway, I presume?

[nath]

would help lol. Im trying ascertain what parts are needed but which alternatives (cheaper lol) can be used instead of genuine williams items. looks like GSF 19 16v wishbones can be used, including ball joints, reno clips etc, and reno arb, Oh and willy struts.

[Clio_GTT]

was the ARB expensive? you havnt got a list of part numbers have you so I could price it all up? were you giving your car williams wide track?

I've got the part numbers yer, i'll post in a sec, the arb was one of the most expensive bits, £80 IIRC, whole lot came to roughly £500 without driveshafts, yes my valver has widetrack :D

If you've already got wishbones that aren't rusty and you were gonna replace the bushes there is no point buying new ones, use your old ones with new bushes.

Be warned tho, poly bushes aren't all they've cracked up to be, especially on a road car. OE is where it's at 8)

[nath]

Nice one, I'll still have those parts off you tho, you get my PM?

[Clio_GTT]

Nice one, I'll still have those parts off you tho, you get my PM?

Yeah i'm trying to get someone to be around mine on sunday ( i won't be around unfortunately mate )

are you going to FCS ?

[Clio_GTT]

http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3530

have a read of that

[nath]

No not going to FCS mate.
If your not around on sunday then i'll pop round when ever your next free, just had a read of that post, copy and paste the part numbers.
do GSF do williams struts?

nathan