View Full Version : 16v slag vs 172
Mr.AdamB
09-04-2007, 12:13
*Vids* hehe same result every race :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ2drS3vR0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F16ttkLmZ9w
lol, pretty much owned :D
Mr.AdamB
09-04-2007, 12:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY6S272azsM
nuva vid
Valver looks far from Standard.
cliolord
09-04-2007, 14:54
the valver was up pod awhile back. Stripped, buckets and thats it lol no engine mods except decat i think
Do standard valvers beat 172's standard for standard then?
cliolord
09-04-2007, 14:58
no, not if both are standard to my knowledge, the 172's have the upper hand. But on another note, a Standard williams and Standard 172 cup are the same from 0-100 with precisious little in it
depends on the valver n all, thats a bloody good engien in that one! :twisted:
Mr.AdamB
09-04-2007, 15:49
my valver is a beast. ran a 14.7 at pod wit shit 60ft time.
only mods are ik and magnex cat back had a gay IK on therr but it prob slowed me down a bit, usually have itg with fog scoop.
look after the engine and thre sweet :)
pah
172 driver is a novice
get someone who knows what he is doing to race ya!
CHEAT! ;)
Mr.AdamB
09-04-2007, 16:30
hehe 172s are slow :twisted:
cliolord
09-04-2007, 17:08
172 cup's are pretty swift though mate ;) driving by someone that doesnt hit the limiter alot :lol:
172 beaten by a valver post on cs please.
Mr.AdamB
09-04-2007, 18:21
naw i m only playn bout but ive nad no problems beating 172s all i have come up against.
Andyvalver
09-04-2007, 19:00
We had this one before in the driving tales section. Imo there is not alot between them until 70-90 mph but others have different opinions.
Mr.AdamB
09-04-2007, 22:12
ahh but this is no tail no story its prooooof of pure valver ownage. byut will be a shame we i go f7r sum 1 will have to continue the valver ownage legend! :P..
If a valver loses to a stock 172 when both are stock, then whats the big deal if a modded one which is made even lighter and decated etc beats one?
Its modded after all.
No bloody way! Valvers are incredibly slow! I destroyed one in my old 172!
No bloody way! Valvers are incredibly slow! I destroyed one in my old 172!
i wouldnt say incredibly slow, but i am yet to come up against a valver that can beat my 172
Ive also raced my valver against my 172 and my valver at the time was running sweet, and still 172 owned it
my valver is a beast. ran a 14.7 at pod wit s**t 60ft time.
only mods are ik and magnex cat back had a gay IK on therr but it prob slowed me down a bit, usually have itg with fog scoop.
look after the engine and thre sweet :)
It was stripped to the bone wasn't it??? Also, did you run slicks?
Therefore only mods are not just IK and exhaust :wink:
Stripping will by far be the best "mod" you can do (out of those), for example, a 16v weighs 980kg standard:
137bhp x 1000kg / 980kg = 139.79 bhp/tonne
Lets assume you get it down to 850kg (including your cage - this is generous as the figure for mk1 cups is 850 with dash/sound deadening).
137bhp x 1000kg / 850kg = 161.17bhp/tonne
So that's over 20bhp/tonne extra, not including your IK+decat/exhaust.
Now lets assume your 16v is making 145bhp with a strong engine, IK, decat and your exhaust:
145bhp x 1000kg / 850kg = 170.58bhp/tonne
Quite a difference wouldn't you say!
Figures for a standard 172...
170bhp * 1000kg / 1060kg = 160bhp/tonne
So anyway, my point is, stripping the interior out to such a degree is a massive modification! As you have effectively "gained" 30bhp over a standard valver.
As Summeh and others have said - not really a surprising result to be honest!
Chris n`nic
03-05-2007, 10:33
I need to get down south when my 172 cup comes out this weekend ;)
Chris
Mr.AdamB
03-05-2007, 18:08
ill have a play with anyones 182 \ 172 in my vavler i love it but its soon going hybrid = near 200 bhp \ ton
Mr.AdamB
03-05-2007, 18:09
No bloody way! Valvers are incredibly slow! I destroyed one in my old 172!
my valver is a freak, can run 14.7s and prby can get it lower.
should come find me and see if u can beat it :P
Care!!! 1/4 mile is pointless! 30-110 etc...
Everyone knows 172's are sluggish off the line!
Strip a cup to silly lengths then do your maths again!
Your tryin to compare apples with pears.
Mr.AdamB
15-05-2007, 17:32
jog on mate, u and ure "cup"
Care!!! 1/4 mile is pointless! 30-110 etc...
Everyone knows 172's are sluggish off the line!
Strip a cup to silly lengths then do your maths again!
Your tryin to compare apples with pears.
I though 172's are quick off the line then fade away after 80mph?
Nothing freaky about that valver Bish. You ran a 15.1 on road tyres as did your last one (which had a dash).
So you have either had 2 very freaky valvers, or you are good at 1/4 miles. Strip a valver, give it to Bish and it will run low 15s all day :P
Mr.AdamB
15-05-2007, 20:35
actualyl it was 15.0 on road tires.
and 14.9 on sliks which was still slower than my average 60ft times.
Mr.AdamB
15-05-2007, 20:35
i means 14.7 lol stupid no edit :|
FlamingMonkey
15-05-2007, 21:34
I wouldnt mind seeing some of these quick valvers, I've had 3 myself and love them but a Valver with basic breathing mods is not much competition to a 172 in a straight line, sorry to say, throw a few corners in and there will be **** all in it, and I'd be tempted to sway towards the valver being quicker on a decent lap.
But I know **** all, like most folk on here, I do know which looks better though 8)
Valver for the Title!!!!!
jog on mate, u and ure "cup"
I don't have a cup...Fanny.
there is a vid somewhere of me in my 172 anhialiting a valver, in everysingle gear!!
Lee Keefy
16-05-2007, 17:02
to whom it may concern
can i have my joining fee back if my posts are going to be deleted all the time!!!! :?: :?: :?:
Mr.AdamB
16-05-2007, 17:05
taylor i fully expect a 172 to beat a unstripepd valver!
end of.
Lee Keefy
16-05-2007, 19:37
^^^^^at least you get to express your opinions :roll:
Danbz123
30-05-2007, 16:41
it all boils down to the driver, if the guy in the 172 didnt bounce it off the limiter on the first two changes then it would of been closer but i still think the mk1 would of had him,
BOY RACERS BOUNCE OFF THE LIMITER, RACING DRIVERS DONT, NUFF SAID
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