Bigger brake kit

[fabulicious]

[quote="Daz4567"]

No, that's my point, the price I quoted was parts alone !!!!

I accept that I've got race spec pads which were expensive, and the brackets were expensive, but I was charged £330+VAT for the calipers alone. Either I have slightly different spec calipers (eg billet vs forged), or someone's put a big mark-up on them !

No arguments on the price of the ancilary stuff...........

Did you get an invoice/receipt? Does it show the part number?

Jamie markup is one thing..distribution channels are another. It's not uncommon to find huge price margins between various resellers. If they are down at the lower end of the food chain as such, their discount's are going to be much less and price's higher. As far as I can tell rally design seem to be the only distributors in the UK for the wilwoods? Therefore they can afford to bang them out at dirt cheap prices, hence where I got the price from this morning.

Anyways get the part number on the calipers and let us know before anyone jumps to any more conclusions.

This is total bollocks. You can buy the calipers cheaper than that retail from rally design. How can a tuning company not get them cheaper wholesale?

As I said it's about channel's, distribution channels to be more precise. It does not matter if a formula 1 team goes to buy these caliper's or not.
At the end of the day an agreement is in place (often legal) with the manufacturer, in this case Wilwood and Rally Design, that rally Design have exclusive distribution/wholesale rights on the Wilwood caliper in the UK. Nobody else is allowed to distribute these calipers whilst that agreement is in place.
That does not mean Rally Design cannot operate under a pseudonym and bang them out on ebay or other places. This is so very often done and even tuning companies get squeezed out! I know i've been there in the IT world.

These companies 'pluck figures out of the air' just like i said. They count on the buyer not knowing the actual cost of the parts. Most make huge margins on what amounts to immoral behavior.

So you consider it wrong that a business turns a profit?
The buyer/consumer has more rights than a business nowadays. In general prices are displayed and or quoted before an exchange of goods or service's rendered. And yeah whilst there are suckers out there it's the buyer that needs to be aware. I take it in the UK you have consumer laws which allow you a refund if you not satisfied?

Thats business. Politics are no better.

[fabulicious]

And lets talk about immoral behaviour, and not in a business sense but in a human being light.
You do realise that very likely the computer you are typing your messages on or iphone for that matter come from a manufacturer which exploits workers, and specifically in Taiwan, where the suicide rate in their factories has gone through the roof. And your worried about money?

[fabulicious]

Just so you know daz i'm not sticking up for anyone. I've given up looking at the world in a negative way. It only leads to depression. We are here for a good time not a long time right?

Anyways incase you havent noticed we dont have many mk1 specialists to rely on these days so i reckon we keep them sweet.
Wait till Jamie gets back with the caliper model number and form your conclusion from that.

[Daz4567]

Keep them sweet?

The problem with 90% of all car forums, is that there is always a little clique of maggots trying to brown nose some tuning jockey.

[fabulicious]

Thats not happening here. Everyone gets a chance to represent themselves if they so wish.
What does happen a lot is people tend to jump to conclusions or make assumptions when their knowledge is incomplete.

[Daz4567]

£1000 for only the parts to a Wilwood brake kit that i payed 450 pound fitted?

What other facts do i need?

[Bob Jones]

£1000 for only the parts to a Wilwood brake kit that i payed 450 pound fitted?

What other facts do i need?

Where did you get a kit for 450 pounds fitted? Link?

[Daz4567]

£1000 for only the parts to a Wilwood brake kit that i payed 450 pound fitted?

What other facts do i need?

Where did you get a kit for 450 pounds fitted? Link?

From Yozzasport. Although Fred did cross thread my rear brake caliper mount, spill brake fluid over the front arch and dent the roof. Oh an the brake pads were the wrong ones. The calipers and brakets were nice though.

[Bob Jones]

£1000 for only the parts to a Wilwood brake kit that i payed 450 pound fitted?

What other facts do i need?

Where did you get a kit for 450 pounds fitted? Link?

From Yozzasport. Although Fred did cross thread my rear brake caliper mount, spill brake fluid over the front arch and dent the roof. Oh an the brake pads were the wrong ones. The calipers and brakets were nice though.

Any idea if he still does the kits?

[samfish]

Hi there,
Just a response to the above -
The Willwoods used on Jamies car are more like £150++ Plus VAT + Carriage - and Rally design do not offer us any discount over the general public.

So very little (if any) mark-up is made, as you can see.

When I bought Mintex F4R for my racing Mk1 Golf they cost me £140+VAT.
Jamie's where custom made for the Willwoods - the first time the Mintex material was available for that calliper.....anywhere.
The F4R pad is absolutely amazing, and worth every penny when competing on track - far superior than the DS3000. I have tried both back to back.

In defence, we are not a tuning 'jockey' that use customers as 'cash cows' to fund a 'hobby'.
Our reputation and experience is based on knowledge gained from decades preparing championship winning race cars - we offer the same level of preparation and service to every customer - road/service or race/prep. Reliability and results are a testament to this.

Consumer is king, so you can choose to go wherever you wish. But consumers can also be misguided by forum discussions....
Regards
Sam