My new williams, kinda.

[MatBrown]

The manifold is different but we can already see that is a 16v item.
The starter motor should be a small bodied item not a fat 16v one.
By the dipstick tube on the front of the engine there should be an engine ID tag, this should read F7R, but these are also swappable.


Mat.

[stelucas]

Can't see a tag by the tube. Have to look tomorrow. There bday got to be something else.

[zmaster2k]

Silver Plaq location to right of dip stick





F7R 700 is williasm engine
F7R 710/714 is a megane engine
F7P is 1.8

[stelucas]

Ah right thats a big job to see that plaque.. I don't even know how to get to that. I'd have to remove my fan and radiator? Big job for me.

Thanks for the pictures though. Though i could see it just by opening the engine bay.

[zmaster2k]

yes you can see it with the rest in place... i was just giving you an idea of placement

[stelucas]

Is says P. Time to call the police i think.

[zmaster2k]

gutting..... feel your pain

[stelucas]

Can't believe someone would try to con me like this, if it hadn't been for you guys i'd never know. I wouldn't mind but it cost me about 100 just to collect the car :(

Thanks to everyone for their help. Man, i want a williams just so i can stay with this forum. lol.

[Wobba]

Are you SURE it says 'P'? the R looks similar.

The manifold/dp could just be coz they didnt swap the parts, the dipstick COULD be just swapped from previous valver engine, but tbh I dont see why. Surely they would keep the Willy one if they had it.

What paperwork have you got?

Looks like you may have been had though :(

Let Coops take a look.

Depending on your finances, you could just take the engine out, sell it, get a megane or Willy engine in (and ECU) with box and job done.

On the other hand...valver engines are still nippy little buggers and love the revs...£600/700 isn't bad assuming other stuff is good. You can sort the box quite easy. Is that JC3 tag fake I wonder? Seems to have been deliberately made to look apparent to maybe trick buyers into thinking it's an F7R.

[stelucas]

Ill have another look 2moro morning but yeh it does appear to be a P, obviously i had a good look. It also looks like the starter motor is pretty big...but i dont know how big that would be and yeh i know 1.8's are nippy, it does have the nice scorpion exhaust etc but it's not what i paid my money for.

I can't swop engine out etc...i'm way more cosmetic based. Like rust and stuff i can deal with but not motors. Bleh, pretty disappointed an have no idea how it will be resolved. Run of bad luck lately.