FAO ANYONE WHO WANTS OR IS THINKING OF GETTING CAMS

[KingStromba]

Bring it on grease monkey

[J o n]

just because i love to repeat myself...

I NEVER SAID ONE WAS BETTER THAN THE OTHER, PLEASE TRY TO READ WHAT I WRITE BEFORE SLATING BEGINS

[2 live]

11:17:27 CATAGORY C 0.00 0.781 2.279 9.432 74.750 14.706 92.550
11:44:08 CATAGORY C 0.00 0.809 2.355 9.576 74.520 14.847 92.690
12:26:21 CATAGORY C 0.00 0.890 2.386 9.609 74.870 14.887 92.510
13:34:45 CATAGORY C 0.00 0.797 2.410 9.626 76.020 14.823 92.770
14:43:31 CATAGORY C 0.00 0.718 2.456 9.677 74.820 14.932 93.060
15:33:20 RWYB CAR 0.00 1.109 2.343 9.629 74.180 14.938 90.770
16:20:30 RWYB CAR 0.00 0.704 2.413 9.701 74.360 14.969 93.070
16:49:38 RWYB CAR 0.00 1.050 2.528 10.664 57.780 17.106 78.760
17:04:34 RWYB CAR 0.00 0.657 2.384 9.707 74.030 15.011 90.960

before cams


10:29:05 RWYB CAR 0.00 0.918 2.245 9.091 78.850 14.077 98.430
11:37:09 C SS-CA 0.00 0.756 2.289 9.213 78.220 14.232 97.710
12:53:39 C SS-CA 0.00 0.841 2.294 9.264 77.340 14.307 97.460
14:17:25 C SS-CA 0.00 1.067 2.525 10.388 72.070 15.709 92.600
15:01:39 C SS-CA 0.00 0.734 2.412 9.505 76.410 14.638 95.270
16:14:02 RWYB CAR 0.00 0.712 2.439 9.402 78.040 14.429 97.700
16:50:39 RWYB CAR 0.00 0.781 2.267 9.195 77.980 14.227 96.030
16:57:38 RWYB CAR 0.00 0.722 2.301 9.304 77.660 14.342 97.380
17:04:13 RWYB CAR 0.00 0.909 2.299 9.253 77.900 14.298 95.760


after cams and map......my cams are better now than they were

[Lunner]

Bring it on grease monkey

Better being a grease monkey then just a plain ordinary monkey

[KingStromba]

After cams and map.

Well its obviously going to be faster after cams. Doesn prove what difference the map made on its own.

[Mark_Ritchspeed]

Its very difficult to provide specific data to the general public on things like this though. The expense of testing and proving lots of diiferent cams on lots of different engine set-ups would be seriously expensive and the end customer would pay through the nose for the privilege.

At the end of the day, you have to trust the tuner that you choose and believe he knows what hes talking about , otherwise take your car elsewhere. Its as simple as that.

If someone asked me to provide evidence that my brake pads can withstand temps of over 1000 degrees F and still perform, I would be stumped. Yes its possible to do, but the expense would be crippling.

I know they work and because they work so well, I can quite happily state that it doesnt matter how expensive a kit someone has on their car, its not going to outperform the kits I'm selling. Now wether a 6pot AP racing setup with 330mm discs will outperform the Wilwood kits (on standard discs) when you try to run 10" wide slicks on a car I cant comment, but then I'm not supplying those people anyway.

If I was asked to show the kits were better than an equivalent set-up from AP or Brembo I couldnt and whats more I wouldnt. If people trust me to supply them with a good braking set-up, then they will buy from me. If they dont they'll go elsewhere.

[BRUN]

if you actually speak to Ben before all this criticising then you will soon realise he REALLY knows what he is talkin about, he does have the required knowledge to design a good cam, also Piper and Kent are mentioned, how much actual testing do they do on their cams, for all we know it might be very little

at least give things a chance before rubbishing them, i cant believe this thread already, its totally stupid, everythin that gets posted up is jus pissed on by Stromba without a second thought, prove this, prove that, bla bla bla

i fully understand you like to have a good reason for things to be better etc, a valid reason, as would i, but is there really any need for such a slagging off when Ben himself hasnt even posted on here, in my opinion, no

[2 live]

after cams..no map

13:19:08 C SS-CA 0.00 0.747 2.446 9.603 76.560 14.727 95.990
13:47:54 C SS-CA 0.00 0.749 2.280 9.352 76.800 14.498 95.460
14:37:49 C SS-CA 0.00 0.883 2.307 9.418 76.280 14.584 95.290
14:58:47 C SS-CA 0.00 0.988 2.300 9.407 76.290 14.555 95.500
15:38:36 RWYB CAR 0.00 1.611 2.319 9.467 76.660 14.618 95.460
15:47:21 RWYB CAR 0.00 1.350 2.299 9.438 76.150 14.592 95.440
16:00:04 RWYB CAR 0.00 0.820 2.307 9.349 76.390 14.495 95.590

[KingStromba]

In my industry Mark, i am not allowed to make claims without scientific backing, or peer reviewed citations.

I think alot of missery would be saved in all industries, if in order to make a claim, it had to be backed by a scientific study.

If no syudy exists, no claim is allowed to be made. Just advertise the product with an accurate descritption


'Clio Williams camshaft with cam profile of this measurement'


No bullshit about 30 BHP gain this, 'bridge test top speed that'. Its all crap and meanigless without the data to back it up.

[Martin]

after cams..no map

13:19:08 C SS-CA 0.00 0.747 2.446 9.603 76.560 14.727 95.990
13:47:54 C SS-CA 0.00 0.749 2.280 9.352 76.800 14.498 95.460
14:37:49 C SS-CA 0.00 0.883 2.307 9.418 76.280 14.584 95.290
14:58:47 C SS-CA 0.00 0.988 2.300 9.407 76.290 14.555 95.500
15:38:36 RWYB CAR 0.00 1.611 2.319 9.467 76.660 14.618 95.460
15:47:21 RWYB CAR 0.00 1.350 2.299 9.438 76.150 14.592 95.440
16:00:04 RWYB CAR 0.00 0.820 2.307 9.349 76.390 14.495 95.590

consistancy with the terminals there!