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  1. #21
    J o n
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    we'll have to wait and see... I doubt it will be quicker tho, my car was flying upto the point of it's death :(

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    M8 im glad you've made that decision, you would have regretted it forever had you got rid of the divine williams.

  3. #23
    ****ing hell Jon. Gutted for you mate. Like northy says though mate if you remove that final weak link (the engine) hopefully it'll be sorted.

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    yeah get a bit more power in it !
    im expecting the worst from my valver engine, its makign funny noises from the cams ..

  5. #25
    J o n
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    thing is the engine was in fantastic condition bottom end wise, just the pump that caused it's death... :(

    I hope the new block is a fast...

  6. #26
    Really sorry to hear this Jesus. :(

    Unfortunately its not that uncommon for an older bottom end to have problems when coupled with a beefed up top-end. Its something I have experienced a couple of times with flowed heads and cams on a standard bottom end. Although everything initially seems fine its not long before the extra stress on the worn bottom end becomes too much. Although this is not always the case as I have also put head and cams on engines with over 100k miles on without problems.

    When you do get a new bottom end sorted it might be worth also seeing if you can source an uprated oil-pump if these are available for the Clio lump. I am by no means a specialist on the Renault lump, but generally on modified engines a standard oil-pump can be a weak link.

    Anyway, I will contact a couple of people and see if any engines are available, if not it gives you an opportunity to bore yours out to something like a 2.1. :D

    FWIW I contacted our local Renault dealer to see if any short engines are available, but unfortunately only complete engines are sold on an exchange basis.

  7. #27
    J o n
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    yeah, the bottom end is usually bullet proof on these I heard... but obviously mine has now taken a hammering due to not having oil in. I spoke to Ben and I'm gonna get a new bottom end and see about an uprated oil pump as that's what apparently caused the failure. I couldn't say one way or the other about the cams though, as they shouldn't really have stressed the engine enough with em not being timed in...? maybe? lol

    Gibbo said the oil pumps can be had for £140 or an OE one, so how much are the uprated electric ones... think i'll check GSF and BB out...

  8. #28
    Cheapest electric uprated pump in Demon Tweeks is £168+vat.

    Is there not an uprated mechanical pump that fits into the oe fittings?

  9. #29
    Sorry to hear mate.

    Did it fail as you were driving it hard, or just pootling about?

    /y0z

  10. #30
    J o n
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    Mark, dunno pal, i'm fairly clueless on these sorts of issues... lol

    Yoz, nah, was doing between 70-80 as I dont speed at all really, unless there's something worth having a play with. So going down the M62 and the oil pressure went to nowt... which concerned me... then a funny noise from the engine, so I took it out of gear and costed up the slip road and round the RA and parked up and left it there. As I got onto the slip road the oil warning light came on, so I just switched if off and left it on the hard shoulder of some A-road as I went to the RR... no point letting it ruin your plans eh?


 

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