No. 303 review

Who's this fella? Just read his review of no. 303 at www.ciao.co.uk. Did a good job of it, IMO.

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Renault_Clio_W...Review_5319903

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I had a Clio Williams from 1998 to 2001, and I have to say that this is one of the best cars I have ever driven.

I bought the car in 98 with 102,000 on the clock for £10k - that was cheap then, as most were going for in excess of £12k. I knew I would put a lot of miles on the clock, so didn't mind that it had already covered so many - at least I knew it hadn't been clocked! At 100k it had worn well, a few stone chips on the front - to be expected, but the engine sounded like new, and it had a full service history - meticulously maintained.

In the time I had it, the car got seriously abused. It is a drivers car - handles like it's on rails, and has good accelleration too - although you need to rev it hard to get the best out of it. My other car was an Escort Cosworth, and while the clio was not as quick as the cossie, it handled almost as well, and was equally as much fun to drive - in some ways moreso, as you could throw the clio around more than the escort.

By the time I sold it, the car had covered 180,000 miles, and had done trips to Scottish highlands twice, and also two trips around the costline of Ireland. On these minor roads, this car came into it's own. It's not too much fun on the motorway, as it's small, and not roomy, but on B-roads, it is unsurpassed.

Mine was a Clio Williams 1 - it was individually numbered (no.303) and had electric windows, power steering, central locking, and a huge array of instrumentation. The seats were special design affairs for the Williams. Later Williams 2/3 models included extras such as sunroof, ABS, electric mirrors, but the Williams 1 is still considered the classic version.

Mine was very robust, and reliable, given the beating it took, however, you should remember if buying one of these, that they're going to hit your wallet occasionally, and will not be as cheap to run as say a Clio RSi.

Most of the parts are shared with the lesser Clio 16V, which means that they are easy to get at places like halfords, and specialist breakers. If you have to buy from Renault - they are not the cheapest.

Also, the car isn't too difficult to work on. Mine never saw a Renault dealer in all the time I had it - I got everything done at a local garage where labour rates are much cheaper.

The things I had to replace in my time were:

- Tyres - they come with £90-100 185/55/VR15 tyres. Change these to 195/50/VR15 tyres -not only do they improve handling, but are half the price!
- Exhaust - the Renault one's don't last very long - change it to a stainless steel version - I fitted a magnex system - a bit noisier than the Renault, but much better, also about the same price at £250 complete.
- Clutch - the original clutch finally gave up the ghost at 150,000 miles - which is fantastic wear. I got it changed at a local company who charged me £200 to replace it - much cheaper than Renault.
- Cambelt - this is a big, big job, as it entails 5-6 hours of work. The belt itself costs about £40 (get a propper Renault one), the labour costs you. My local garage charged me £150 labour, Renault quoted £350+vat.
- Suspension - gave up on Ireland's ropey road surfaces - but not too difficult to change nor expensive.
- Downpipes & engine mounte - also gave up on Ireland's roads. The downpipe was expensive - £400 for the part, but cheap to get fitted. Engine mounts weren't too bad.
- Alternator - died at about 140,000 miles - cost £150 fitted for an exchange unit from Halfords.

When I sold it, mechanically it was still fantastic - and the engine still sounded like new. I used to use fully synthetic oil (5W/40) at every change (6000 miles service interval) and semi-synthetic (10W/40) to top up. There is an oil level guage in the cockpit - check this every time you start the car, cos these engines do consume oil! You'll probably find yourself using 2/3 litres of good quality oil between each service. The car itself will return about 28mpg, which is not too bad.

Unfortunately, the body had started to show it's age - rust on both rear wheel arches, the bonnet and tailgate. Also the lacquer on the wheels is very dodgy - all Clio's start to lose the gold effect - it flakes off, and leaves a nasty corrosion pattern behind. The wheels can be refurbished, but cost £200ish to be done, and cause you the hassle of changing all the tyres over.

If you buy one, then they seem to go and go forever. Things to check are that the cambelt has been changed, and insist on getting one with full history. Main dealer may not be important, but good quality oil is. Check the bodywork for rust, and if all is OK, then I'd strongly recommend you getting a plastic film fitted over the rear arches, as these are flared compared with standard clio's and they get hit by stones kicked up from the front wheels - this is where the rust starts. Get the wheels refurbed unless they're perfect (most Halfords and tyre places offer this service).

Yeah, good review. Apparently it's still running, but has been clocked. I feel for the current owner!

Sorry for late late reply... don't come on here very much these days... that review was mine! Glad to see it's still helping people!

Doing a reg search on my old Willy (303) shows that the tax expired in 2005, so I guess it's finally gone to the car home in the sky...

Fond memories though...

hiya mate i now own the williams no 303.
very good review by the way! i'v had it for 8 months.i bought it with no drive because thanks to these fellow williams owners i was told all the fault was would be a diff circlip so i kept that bit of info to my self until i bought her. pretty tight i know i let him think and sorta convinced him he had blown the gear box up while knowing it was 7 quid to sort it. :oops:
and manx test is the vehicle test it has to pass before you can drive on the roads of the isle of man.
things it needs to pass but finally got the funds to sort it after 8 long months.
x-5 new tyres {pref yoki's or conti's}
been advised to quietin the exhaust down a little but only for the day of test
n/s front track rod end
now needs front and rear discs and pads - bad corrossion
full brake fluid change
front wipers
also the sills are starting to rust. this is the only problem because i can sort the rest of the mechanical faults myself but body work is defo not my thing. the corrossion/rusting on the rear arches as you say in your review don't think it has ever been seen to, but also req work to pass test
i would estimate the mileage between 220-230k considering in 2001 it had covered 180,000 the speedo now says 60,000 so i knew that was wrong.
i expect the car to be sorted and through test within the next month and then the driving experience can begin! i hope to make this as tidy a model as possible, using all gen renault parts. 50% discount on RRP



:P also your review on 303 was featured in dec 06 max power magazine a friend brought in the mag not realising the car featured was mine. thanks for the great review on this willi. gave me a good insight into its history.
Cheers.
Nathan

Present and now long term owner of willi 303.

nice reunion lads !

Long live 0303 !

great post :D

Holy thread resurrection! Did 0303 ever find its way back onto the road?

Still miss this car - would buy it back in a heartbeat if it was anything like roadworthy.....

as far as i know stroker still had it in 2012 mate.