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Gearbox change on f7r, engine in or out
Clio_GTT
27-02-2006, 20:08
quicker out
in out in out shake it all about
do the hokey cokey and............
steveos_16valver
27-02-2006, 20:09
i did mine out but was doing it on the drive way but there are some peeps say u can do it in
lunner you know theres going to be a big debate now !!!
out out out out out out out
:D
i know, everyone i've spoken to says out, doing it on my drive too
Problem with taking it out is i need to buy new pas fluid, oil and gearbox oil lol
Swervin_Mervin
27-02-2006, 20:17
I've heard it can be done in, with the battery tray out. Or just drop the subframe shurely.
it can be removed in the car., BUT the clutch has to be removed with the box still in the car, to get it out, and then has to be put back on and lined up with very little space.
Subframe has to be dropped as far as the bolts will allow for manovering room. But box has to come out the top
Clio_GTT
27-02-2006, 20:27
ballache in mate, takes a lot longer. just whip it out
stop being tight and get ur arse down themotor factors for new fluids!!
u will honestly do it sooooo much quicker out
where u based?
ive done mine both ways and id do it engine in again, dont take 20mins to drop subframe off and then pull box out
Justin..
27-02-2006, 20:42
"Lunner"i know, everyone i've spoken to says out, doing it on my drive too
Problem with taking it out is i need to buy new pas fluid, oil and gearbox oil lol
same oil isnt it??
Clio_GTT
27-02-2006, 20:46
"Lunner"i know, everyone i've spoken to says out, doing it on my drive too
Problem with taking it out is i need to buy new pas fluid, oil and gearbox oil lol
same oil isnt it??
no there is seperate PAS fluid and seperate gearbox oil
Justin..
27-02-2006, 20:47
:shock: i swear my pas fluid bottle had gearbox oil written on it too :?
Clio_GTT
27-02-2006, 20:49
:shock: i swear my pas fluid bottle had gearbox oil written on it too :?
you must have been smoking something to see that mate :D
Justin..
27-02-2006, 20:51
right i aint aving that im gunna look :wink:
i hope im not wrong, all will be revealed
To be continued :P
u can use transmission fluid in PAS system
ive done mine both ways and id do it engine in again, dont take 20mins to drop subframe off and then pull box out
Ahh so you drop the subframe off and take it out the bottem, haynes says out the top.
Might have a go with dropping subframe, if it goes tits up will take the engine out, have to borrow a hoist for the engine anyways, i cna get a mate tyo help me with box :)
Justin..
27-02-2006, 21:03
well on the container it says ''automatic transmission and power stearing fluid''.... i win, end of =;
Clio_GTT
27-02-2006, 21:41
you can use ATF, i would have thought gearbox oil would be too thick for PAS, PAS and ATF (automatic transmission fluid) are quite thin, gearbox oil is gunky and horrible :D
oi stop hi-jacking my thread
Has anyone else dropped the box out the bottem?
yes done it a few times now lol..evry time i blow a box up.
leave engine in..drop subby, pull box out from in between the subby an the inner wing...easy as...days work tops out n in..if u workin on yer own that is.
sweet, how do you support the weight of the box when manovering it?
Drop subby downa nd lift it out the top, ot taek subby off and drop it out bottem?
MatBrown
28-02-2006, 02:25
i know, everyone i've spoken to says out, doing it on my drive too
Problem with taking it out is i need to buy new pas fluid, oil and gearbox oil lol
You will need new PAS fluid and Gearbox oil whichever way you do it!
Mat.
steveos_16valver
28-02-2006, 08:55
atx is used in AUTO boxes not manulr boxes should never use it in your box it will **** it a treat
i use slick 50 pas fluid and its stoped my leak and no more noise :)
i know, everyone i've spoken to says out, doing it on my drive too
Problem with taking it out is i need to buy new pas fluid, oil and gearbox oil lol
You will need new PAS fluid and Gearbox oil whichever way you do it!
Mat.
gearbox oil yes.......definately.
PAS fluid.........no.
i do it by dropping the n/s subframe rite off, engine hoist on the engine, gearbox in hand, ul need to drop the column on the uj at the bulkhead.
hassle hassle hassle :lol: :lol:
so 2 live, do you take it out the bottem or the top?
I'd imagine is dropping the subframe right off it would be easier out the bottom
read the posts mate :roll:
lol
bottom between the inner wing and the subby........as it says ^^^^^ up there in my other post.
my bad :oops:
Well wuith both 2live and a renault tech saying drop it out the bottom, looks like bottom it is :)
Also agree with taking it out the bottom, looks alot more hassle taking the whole engine out
And dropping the subframe doesnt take long, on a lift it only takes bout 4-5 hours to change the gearbox
as i previously said, imo its easyier from bottom, subframe takes sod all time to get off, u dont need to take the shafts rite out just move them out of way, then support engine and pull box off!
Well i've been at it for 9 hours today, and just got the the poioint of loosening the gearbox bolts ready to slide it out
Spent hours ****ing with the subframe, trying to seperate the supersprint, ended up unbolting it from the head.
Hopefully get it all back together tomorrow
Spent hours f***king with the subframe, trying to seperate the supersprint, ended up unbolting it from the head.
Exactly
Engine could be out in less than 9 hours! :P
to be fair...the gearbox should have been in and out in that time..
2 bolts out, 2 undone in the s/frame, steerin column pinch bolt, subframe will drop.
Might be easier in future - I can't imagine subframe bolts being nice to undo if they ain't been undone for 10 years.. :)
Things always take longer when you havent done them before.
Home mechanic-ing is always slow going unless you know exactly what your doing...which for 99% of us we can only dream of!
Good efforts anyway lunner....
when is d-day for this 2.0L beast?
8)
its the little lock tab cage things that secure the nut that are a bastard...n/s ones easy enuff to get at, but the o/s one can be a pain in the ass
Yeah tbh if i had known what iw as doing what i did yesterday woudl ahve taken half the time, spent ages tryign ti find nuts and bolts and undoign teh wrong things etc etc
If i did it again i recon i coudl prolly do it in a day.
Just broken for lunch, box is back in, and wires are connected up
next task to is oput the engine mount back on and lift the subframe back up, whihc is gonna be a cunt seeing as i undid all 4 bolts, and i'm working on my own
oooo nearly there then ul be able to take her out for a blast very soon :D:D
i want her back :'(
Should have done the box yourself and kept her then :P
Your loss, my gain :D :wink:
i know but couldnt afford to and didnt have anywhere to do it really
oh well :( you gota take me for a pasenger lap in her on track tho :) or better yet let me take her for one :)
shunt be too bad gettin the subby back up mate.......main thing to watch out for is to make sure u get the column lined up properly with the rack before u get the subby where u want it. lol.
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