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Rudders16v
22-03-2005, 16:47
I've been having a think about this, and although i've only just bought a Williams 2, i think the 2's are just for people who want a cheap Williams (in the main anyway, maybe not EVERYONE!).
I've based this on the original Williams being the "original", ie, it was the first edition, and the one which started the great reputation, so thats gotta be a good one to have. But if you wanted a newer Williams, and one with more electic gadgets, you would buy a Williams 3 because of the sunroof.

So, why would anyone want a 2, unless thats all they could afford!? Unless of course it was an outstandingly mint low mileage example or something

This could be interesting............ or i could just get a rather big slating!

KingStromba
22-03-2005, 16:51
Williams 1 (the homologation special). Only one with a plaque so the most sought after. Phase 1.

Williams 2 - A copy of the 1 (advantage no sun roof). Not a homologation special. Phase 2.

Williams 3 - Different colour. Disadvantage of a sun roof. But newer. Not a homologation special. Phase 2.


Depends what floats your boat. A good example of any will be sought after, but i think everyone would agree the first series is the best to own, if not just for the plaque.

Swervin_Mervin
22-03-2005, 16:52
Cue flame session! :P Good luck mate, have you got any flame retardant suits or owt? :D

GazTwo
22-03-2005, 17:01
Probably a slating....lol...to be honest I wanted a Williams 3 when I started looking cause of the shiny colour and sunroof but like u said I found a mint low mileage Williams 2 and am well chuffed with it. I wouldn't say a Williams 2 is a cheaper option there all the same price pending condition.

There all the same to me I don't believe the Williams 1 with the plaque is the original they all fetch the same price, plus with a Williams 2 u get the different interior and exterior changes from the Williams 1, no leaking sunroof from the Williams 3 and ABS is for GIRLS!!!

My opinion is a Williams is a Williams not matter which number, as long as u find the best one u can.

Daz
22-03-2005, 17:02
2's because..
Phase2, No Sunroof, No ABS.

No sunroof means no leaks or rattles.. although, I do like the light they give.. oh, and you don't get creases in roof like you do with a sunroof.

3's drive better I think, 1's are originals. My 3 drove great.


Personally, If I had a 1, I'd change it all to Phase2.

Oh, and I've had a 3.. now got a 2.. so I know what it's like to own both..
At the end of the day, you get whichever is mintest.
If I didn't have my 2 and wanted a real mint Williams and a 1 came along.. I'd get it.. no questions. It just so happens an original 2 came along, no paint, and I got it.. Heh.

Swervin_Mervin
22-03-2005, 17:06
FWIW if I was to get one I'd only ever have a 1, 'cos I don't like the phase 2 bits.

Enid
22-03-2005, 17:44
I'd always look for a 1 first as that like Stromba said is a homologation special and the plaque adds a little kudos imo. Failing that I would consider a 2 if it was in good condition. Not really intersted in a 3, its not even the right colour :lol:

northy
22-03-2005, 17:52
For me i wanted the 3 as it was newer and therefore in better condition.
But im suprised my 9year old car has rusted so much as it has.

If was buying another it would be a Williams 1. But again...i would buy any if it was original, rust free and low mileage.

NickFr
22-03-2005, 18:03
Recent extract from PRATICAL PERFORMANCE CAR " By the time the williams 3 was around most of these comforts had quietly crept onboard, fuelled by consumer expectation YET detracting from the whole point of the car!! Now before all the 3 owners start yelling this was written by a Journalist who used a williams 3 to write this article. The French also try this elitist attitude with the numbered plaque, however what is quite clear is this isn't reflected in the price, indeed the major deciding factor will always be CONDITION v COST unless you happen to own 0002 or similar, where prehaps there is some perceived " extra value ". Reno's own GREED put pay to any real opportunity for investment hunters. As I mentioned earlier the French and to be fair it is a French car make no distinction, they don't even have number 2 or 3 on their cars!!

Irish Nut
22-03-2005, 18:12
I went for the 1, cos i wanted the original with the plaque and i prefer the phase 1 look. :D

Irish Nut
22-03-2005, 18:13
Queue Stromba re 0002....lol :D :D :D

KingStromba
22-03-2005, 18:57
I would buy a 2 or 3 if they were nice. Driving i doubt there is any difference. But id be lying if i said i wouldnt prefere the ownership appeal of a 1.

J o n
22-03-2005, 19:17
I want a 1 :cry:

Martin
22-03-2005, 19:52
You've got a Williams 1...well you have according to the stickers. :wink:

KingStromba
22-03-2005, 20:32
Whats that you say? 'Wrong colour' :wink:

J o n
22-03-2005, 20:32
hehe, yeah that's true :)

I love my Willy 1.5 :lol:

KingStromba
22-03-2005, 20:33
What about the Willy 4?

J o n
22-03-2005, 20:35
Willy 4 is okay, but I dont like the 17" alloys...

KingStromba
22-03-2005, 20:40
I hear the 4's leak from the periscope too?

J o n
22-03-2005, 20:59
yeah, only when driving under water tho

KingStromba
22-03-2005, 21:04
still the purple body work is nice, although im not a fan of the pink wheels

MatBrown
23-03-2005, 01:59
When i was looking i actually wanted a 2, for the same reasons Daz has said above and it just so happened that i found a mint one.
Job done!
But at the end of the day the price reflects condition not version.



Mat.

dannyt
23-03-2005, 08:48
I agree they are all special however there is something about the 1, think it's the plaque and no sunroof whereas i've got a sun roof now so something a bit different!

I would go for the one preferably!

Rossco
23-03-2005, 10:16
I have a 2 but wish I had purchased a 1, because of the plaque. Much prefer the phase 2 stuff though, so would be tempted to change the phase 2 bits. Dont really like the colour of the 3 and the sunroof is a pain.

KingStromba
23-03-2005, 11:37
Its a scientific fact that phase 2's can give you bad AIDS.

Winston
23-03-2005, 12:37
soon they will all be hybrids :wink: