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L3WLM
23-02-2006, 20:00
Alright,

im just wondering whats the best oil and grade to use in my williams 3 with 97k on the clock. At the moment it has 15w50 mobile 1 oil.

What would be the best?

Clio_GTT
23-02-2006, 20:02
5W40 or 10W40

L3WLM
23-02-2006, 20:10
cheers mate :) whats the best brand to use?

Clio_GTT
23-02-2006, 20:11
Best means expensive

silkolene pro s 5W40 but its $$

L3WLM
23-02-2006, 20:17
ok , what brand do you use?

Clio_GTT
23-02-2006, 20:21
castrol cheap crap

stew
23-02-2006, 21:39
I'm just away to put halfords motorsport 5w50 fully synth in my F7R.

We'll c how it goes but tbh it cant be any worse than the shite i have in now 10w40 semi synth! Horrible stuff! :evil:

Lunner
23-02-2006, 21:42
5w40, esp in the winter

*w50 is overkill on a clio unless its a proper race car.

I use shell helix or silkoline, silkoline is cheaper, but its the hassle of ordering it, about £40 for 5 ltrs of silkoline, its about £50 or so for helix

BRUN
23-02-2006, 22:00
helix isnt even in the same league as silkolene

im currently using Fuchs Titan Supersyn SL in 5W-40, its close to Silkolene and cheaper.......both are better than Helix, and probably cheaper when you pay petrol station prices

L3WLM
23-02-2006, 22:19
ok cool. where about can i get this silkoline oil - is it only around 40 for 5 litres?

what grade should i go 4 - 5w40 or 10w40

and should it be fully synth or semi synth

sorry 2 ask so many questions

BRUN
23-02-2006, 22:51
fully synthetic

5W-40

buy it from www.opieoils.co.uk

pm oilman on here, he works@/owns opie oils, they do offers all the time

NicoTheFrench
24-02-2006, 00:43
I put the Motul 300V 15W50! Good pression of oil with this

steveos_16valver
24-02-2006, 14:07
auto data book says "grade 10w 30 classification sj/a2-96 or 10w 40 sj/a2-96 and 6.2L ??? not too sure on the 6.2 L tho renault say 5.1L

BRUN
24-02-2006, 20:35
its not 6L.......mine took 5L, 10W-30 is too thin for these engines.....

mon
26-02-2006, 22:34
see link also can be used for low milage older cars ..
this is good can get it from halfords but need to order

http://www.valvolineeurope.com/index.asp?pageid=ebafbeed01d040d9b606d0f237d8da9b

steveos_16valver
27-02-2006, 00:13
its not 6L.......mine took 5L, 10W-30 is too thin for these engines.....


like i said thats what renault recommend throught auto data id say its bollox mine only takes 5.1L and i use 10w40 as its free from work :)

Daz
27-02-2006, 00:39
I run Motul 300v 15w50

Jamie.
28-02-2006, 14:23
buying some new oil and a flush now, so what should i go for?

is 5w30 overkill then or what?

im using magnatec at the mo.......

Lunner
28-02-2006, 14:52
no underkill, wont' handle the temps properly, using a *W50 is overkill

5W40, or 10W40, preference on 5W40

Jamie.
28-02-2006, 14:57
does it matter so much about the make? i have just got quoted £20 from brown brothers for 5L of 5W 40 fully synth DX oil. not heard of DX myslef

Lunner
28-02-2006, 15:01
yeah better quality oil beens better performance, and longer life resulting in less engine wear and engine lasting longer

1fast6
28-02-2006, 15:26
yeah better quality oil beens better performance, and longer life resulting in less engine wear and engine lasting longer

You like to use shell helix don't you?

Lunner
28-02-2006, 15:27
Silkoline Pro preferably, but its so much easier to pick helix up from petrrol stations, fooking more expensive than silkoline tho

1fast6
28-02-2006, 15:30
is it? £15 for 5l of 5w-40. Surely you mean silkolene is more expensive

L3WLM
28-02-2006, 15:42
Just ordered some silkolene pro s 5W40 from oilman :D

Which engine flush do u guys Recommend ?

Cheers
Joiner

1fast6
28-02-2006, 15:48
Just ordered some silkolene pro s 5W40 from oilman :D

Which engine flush do u guys Recommend ?

Cheers
Joiner

did you pay £40+?

L3WLM
28-02-2006, 15:52
39.99 inculding p&p

BRUN
28-02-2006, 16:17
is it? £15 for 5l of 5w-40. Surely you mean silkolene is more expensive

where is Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 £15 for 5L........its not even that cheap trade price exc VAT, we can get it at work

Daz
28-02-2006, 17:15
I wouldn't bother with an engine flush.. not worth the hassle, heh.

Jamie.
28-02-2006, 17:28
39.99 inculding p&p


yer same as what he offered me. im reluctant to put that in if i consrquently have to do some engine work. just a waste of oil and £40!

1fast6
28-02-2006, 17:38
is it? £15 for 5l of 5w-40. Surely you mean silkolene is more expensive

where is Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 £15 for 5L........its not even that cheap trade price exc VAT, we can get it at work

swear thats what the tag at the bottom of the shell rack said last time i was in there. Walked up to it after paying for the petrol just to be sure.

If they have priced it wrong, that's their fault and i'll get some.

Lunner
28-02-2006, 17:40
the 10W40 int eh blue bottel is that price for 4l, the ultra in the black bottle is £40 for 4l iirc

1fast6
28-02-2006, 17:44
the 10W40 int eh blue bottel is that price for 4l, the ultra in the black bottle is £40 for 4l iirc

oh thought the ultra was blue packaging. My mistake must have been 10w then. Still gonna use that though and save myself £25.

Daz
28-02-2006, 23:57
Looking in my Williams Manual.. it says 15w40 -> 15w50.

Haynes confirms this also..

I'm the only one running 15w50 up to now! :shock:

Everyone I've spoken to recommends 5w40 also? Heh..

Purple
01-03-2006, 01:01
I'm the only one running 15w50 up to now!

IMHO, as long as your are not using the thin ?W-30 oils for old engines, it should be fine. I have actually used ?W-60 and could not tell the difference in engine performance (ie: neither faster nor slower). I think synthetic oils are better these days, thus the old rule of switching to thicker oils on old engines are less relevant.

MatBrown
01-03-2006, 02:25
Just ordered some silkolene pro s 5W40 from oilman :D

Which engine flush do u guys Recommend ?

Cheers
Joiner

Don't use an engine flush with hydraulic tappets, if you want to clean the engine just change the oil and put some cheap oil in, run it briefly, then change the oil for some quality stuff.



Mat.

L3WLM
01-03-2006, 11:30
cheers for the advice Mat :D

stew
01-03-2006, 12:37
Don't use an engine flush with hydraulic tappets, if you want to clean the engine just change the oil and put some cheap oil in, run it briefly, then change the oil for some quality stuff.Mat.

Agreed. Just used some whynns engine flush on mine as the tappets were getting noisey on cold starts, but its even worse now!

Any suggestions?

MatBrown
01-03-2006, 13:09
As above, quick oil change using cheap oil.
You need to try and get the flushing agent out.
Could try turning the engine over by hand while draining oil to squeeze the fluid out of them, will be a bit noisey on start-up tho.
Disconnect the main HT lead when first cranking up after refilling to build up some oil pressure.



Mat.

GazTwo
01-03-2006, 14:11
I was told changing the oil whilst hot is as good as using any of the engine flush efforts???

MatBrown
01-03-2006, 14:33
Is always better done when the engine is hot, just makes the squeezing your arm in a bit more perilous. :P



Mat.

BRUN
01-03-2006, 20:29
Looking in my Williams Manual.. it says 15w40 -> 15w50.

Haynes confirms this also..

I'm the only one running 15w50 up to now! :shock:

Everyone I've spoken to recommends 5w40 also? Heh..

thats because the manual was printed almost 15 years ago, they didnt have the oils then that we have now, and didnt know as much

Coops
01-03-2006, 21:14
5w-40 all the way, soooooo much quieter n smoother n heats up sharpish n all for soem reason! good clean oil rules!! :D