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Swervin_Mervin
15-02-2006, 12:30
Is that the dogbone going?
northy
15-02-2006, 12:31
has it just started doing it ?
Swervin_Mervin
15-02-2006, 12:33
Yep. Did it at Elvington a couple of times and it did it this morning.
FlamingMonkey
15-02-2006, 12:34
Dog bones are 32 quid from renno with VAT or 55ish from Nick Hill for the uprated ones
Swervin_Mervin
15-02-2006, 12:35
How easy is it to pop the rubber out yerself and turn it 90degrees?
northy
15-02-2006, 12:37
not too sure. im doing one soon for rob.

If you have a vice you might find it easier.
Swervin_Mervin
15-02-2006, 12:40
Any reason why you asked if it's just started doing it?

I'm also going to get the 19 mount as well.
northy
15-02-2006, 12:41
if its just started then that eliminates anything falling out of alignment and could point to new gearbox time.

i know 2lives started to show by poping out of 5th - but that could be down to the B&M.

Try the dogbone mount and if not speak to J3ned to get a new box ordered.
FlamingMonkey
15-02-2006, 12:42
Any reason why you asked if it's just started doing it?

I'm also going to get the 19 mount as well.

I've got the 19 mount on mine, made a little difference but not much, but that could be because the dog bone is gay?
northy
15-02-2006, 12:42
Ive yet to fit this R19 mount....as always is in my room with cams and 4 pots lol.
Swervin_Mervin
15-02-2006, 12:43
Well I know the synchros are going on 2nd. I hope it's not going to die too soon. I wanted to give it a couple of months before I killed it proper. :lol:
Mattie
15-02-2006, 13:05
is it easy 2 take the dog bone mount off without takin the box out or disconecting anythin else from the engine / box?
Clio_GTT
15-02-2006, 13:12
is it easy 2 take the dog bone mount off without takin the box out or disconecting anythin else from the engine / box?

YES just two bolts and its off
Mattie
15-02-2006, 13:16
will i need 2 suport the box with a jack?

sorry about the hijack Swervin_Mervin 8-[
Clio_GTT
15-02-2006, 13:18
will i need 2 suport the box with a jack?

sorry about the hijack Swervin_Mervin 8-[

I havn't done it on the 16v yet, but on my old 1.2 i didn't need to jack anything.
Swervin_Mervin
15-02-2006, 13:34
will i need 2 suport the box with a jack?

sorry about the hijack Swervin_Mervin 8-[

No worries. i wanted to know anyway! :P
clean16v
15-02-2006, 18:19
you would need the car on ramps, and you need to lever the gearbox/engine forward to get the dogbone back in line.

This may not sort the popping out of second gear though....linkages/synchros may also be the case
Andyvalver
15-02-2006, 18:34
will i need 2 suport the box with a jack?

sorry about the hijack Swervin_Mervin 8-[

Dont think so mate. The dog bon mount stops the forward and backward movements, it doesnt support the engines weight.
Nick Hill
15-02-2006, 18:44
My suggestion would be Bent selector. We were always having this problem with the Clio Cup gearboxes. On stripping the boxes they all had the same problem, bent selector forks. They are made from a brass alloy, which when getting a pasting from first gear into second would bend slightly. Subsequently when changing into second gear the syncro ring would not go fully in and the detent balls in the locking gear would not fully click home, this then allowes the syncro to jump out of the locker and disengage the gear.
Andyvalver
15-02-2006, 18:51
Is there no easy way to fix it then? Apart from box out?

reason i ask is because mine has started jumping out of second :x
Swervin_Mervin
15-02-2006, 18:53
Bugger.
Mattie
16-02-2006, 10:47
mines started jumping out of 3rd and its a new box with only about 2500 on it :shock:
Craig
16-02-2006, 11:17
mine started doing it on my old valver after a very harsh full throttle change!

box housing cracked after another 2k miles :(
Swervin_Mervin
16-02-2006, 11:31
My suggestion would be Bent selector. We were always having this problem with the Clio Cup gearboxes. On stripping the boxes they all had the same problem, bent selector forks. They are made from a brass alloy, which when getting a pasting from first gear into second would bend slightly. Subsequently when changing into second gear the syncro ring would not go fully in and the detent balls in the locking gear would not fully click home, this then allowes the syncro to jump out of the locker and disengage the gear.

Nick, so does this popping out occur when changing up in to 2nd or both up and down? Mine seems to be doing it only on downshift at higher revs, and only occasionally.