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Whats the best to get?
ideally want a full kit and ideally wanted bilstein but they dont make a full kit for the RSi.
So whats the next best thing around the £200 mark?
Cheers
I got spax shortened adjustable front dampers for £200, springs i already had but wanna get some higher poundage ones made up, and i need to get matching shortened adjustable rear shocks at £120 for 2
Can highley recomend this kit, although to be fair i havent' got anythign to compare against
Clio_GTT
19-01-2006, 21:57
Spend the extra and go willy wide track with the 16v arches :wink:
erm no!!!!
Ive found a bilstein streetline kit however this is made up of bilstien original struts and bilstein springs.
Surely the struts are no different to standard reno ones, so buying just springs would have the same effect?
Doubt it rebound rate etc will be different
hmm, £180 for that streetline kit.
Ive asked them about it anywho, just to see if the springs come on the struts or not!
Justin..
19-01-2006, 22:32
doubt it, prob have to use top parts of your existing supension maybe
that sucks for that price, the next one up is £420 and thats for a full uprated everything. Damn It
Justin..
19-01-2006, 22:35
bout 18 montha ago i bought an apex lowering kit which had 2 rear shockers, 2 front shockers and springs, cost about 240 and i still had to use parts off my old suspension. how ghey is that
very, suppose im comparing these to the kit i had on my nova.
that was a spax kit, everything uprated and cost **** all. Ive had so many issues trying to find RSi parts
virtually every kit u buy u will have to use the old top mount fittings, thats just how they are!
I had the Spax Vsx kit for my 1.2 which also fitted the Rsi's and that was a 55mm drop.
They where allright for the price, made it nice and low, but i dont recon it actually made it handle any better, than in the standard form. For the sort of driving i did, Country roads etc.
As it was too hard, but if your planning on doing track days there allright.
Have you thought of changing to the Valver setup? that would be cheap and easy to do.
And standard i recon they handle very well, or the Williams for abit more.
dont really want to have 16v arches and front bumper. I want to keep it looking pretty standard.
http://www.zen32679.zen.co.uk/Clio/Willy/01010004.JPG
Just want it lowered but would prefer a full kit.
went for the balck ones in the end then eh! looks well smart. slam the beeeiiiiaaatttccchhh!
Got them off ebay for £190
if i get bored ill spray them silver but for now its something different.
all got decent tread and are in good condition plus there metallic so match the paint work perfectly.
Bang some 16v shocks and springs on...cheapest and probably best.
dont you need the wide track for the 16v stuff tho?
No, thats for fitting williams track...16v is nothing special over the lessers clios than the better shocks/springs.
All you need to fit the stuff to your RSI is hub carriers with 54mm spacing and of course the 16vshocks/springs...beyond that, they just bolt on. Done it on my 1.2...miles better....
will it be any better than the bilstein kit tho?
Doubt you'd really notice the difference of having the bilstein kit over a lowered 16v setup TBH...certainly not enough to warrant the extra cost. 16v setup is more than adequate for most anyway...
Only differnce betweeen RSi and 16v is the 16v sits lower as std, so a 60mm kit for a 16v will lower an rsi by more than 60mm, if you get my drift, strut tops are same through out teh clio range, and bottems bar hub spacing are only different for williams, whihc runs a higher degree of castor. Rsi hubs are 54mm hole spacing like a valver's bt they will prolly request teh spacing.
As for spring poundage the valver is likley to be slightly higher(but might not be) than teh RSi, but a higher poundage spring(within reason) is onyl a good thing
General rule with suspsenion is you get what you pay for, in most cases, ie buy a cheap kit and it will be shit, buy a more expensive one and it will be better
makes, sense.
Will see when ive got the money
General rule with suspsenion is you get what you pay for, in most cases, ie buy a cheap kit and it will be s**t, buy a more expensive one and it will be better
This is true but a bit of grey area when you compare std suspension of a performance car to that of a boggo hatch; an aftermarket RSI kit is probably on par with a std 16v setup.
General rule with suspsenion is you get what you pay for, in most cases, ie buy a cheap kit and it will be s**t, buy a more expensive one and it will be better
This is true but a bit of grey area when you compare std suspension of a performance car to that of a boggo hatch; an aftermarket RSI kit is probably on par with a std 16v setup.
#-o
Since they use teh same after market shocks for the rsi as they use for the 16v, with possibly slightly differnce bounce and rebound rates (and i can never remember what teh 3rd variable is), but esentially they are the same shock.
Now standard williams set up maybe, but not 16v lol
I'm not talking about aftermarket vs aftermarket though - i'm talking aftermarket RSI vs std 16v and the assosiated cost issue;
Std RSI shocks are pap but aftermarket RSI shocks are miles better. However, std 16v shocks (since they are meant for heavier car and are more 'performance' orientated) are probably on par with the RSI aftermarket efforts and a damn site cheaper.
Since you can get a lowered low milage 16v setup for under 50quid thesedays it doesn't really warrant paying out extra for an RSI...thats all i'm saying.
So you are saying that the after market systems for a 16v and rsi are similar.
But you are saying that the after market rsi system is similar to a std 16v set up, so therefore there is no point in getting after market 16v suspension as its similar to to std :roll:
Rsi is all of 20/25(dependant on 16v version)kgs lighter then 16v
So you are saying that the after market systems for a 16v and rsi are similar.
No i didn't, you were the one that said they use basically the same shock, not me.
But you are saying that the after market rsi system is similar to a std 16v set up,
Yes.
so therefore there is no point in getting after market 16v suspension as its similar to to std :roll:
No, theres no point in getting an aftermarket RSI setup as it'll be similar to a std 16v setup
Rsi is all of 20/25(dependant on 16v version)kgs lighter then 16v
I'll take your word for that.
They are the same shock, spax or avo or who ever aren't goning to engineer a completely diferent shock for a car that is 25kgs heavier....are they?
TBH mate i think you are getting confused between your 16v and williams.
Std williams is on a par with after market rsi/valver stuff, 16v shocks are pretty much the same as the rsi shocks iirc, but the 16v sits 15mm(iirc) lower and possibly has slightly higher poundage springs, but since after market lowering springs will be higher poundage still, and since we all know if you just stick lowering springs it doesn't do much apart from with uprated dampers, then you get teh true feel.
Tell you what you taje a std 16v round a forner and i'll take me tweaked RSi round a corner and we;ll see which has most grip, my money is ont eh RSi suspension set up
Tell you what you taje a std 16v round a forner and i'll take me tweaked RSi round a corner and we;ll see which has most grip, my money is ont eh RSi suspension set up
Umm id say the standard 16v setup considering i had the uprated rsi shocks on my 1.2 and my standard 16v is faster through the corners.
They are the same shock, spax or avo or who ever aren't goning to engineer a completely diferent shock for a car that is 25kgs heavier....are they?
Erm well i think they do...the Spax catalogue certainly lists different part numbers. In any case, if the RSI was 'only' 25kgs heavier then by your argument renault would have fitted the same shocks to it as the 16v but they didn't...
Getting away from the point tho...std 16v shocks are uprated over RSI items and if they're capable of coping with the heavier car (on lowering springs or otherwise) then they're going to be relatively unstressed on an RSI. The being the case, and the fact they're cheap, it seems a bit daft to fork out the extra for 'RSI specific' items...
Justin..
20-01-2006, 19:44
:idea:
There was 2 versions one was 5 kg heaverier than the other, C570 and C57S iirc
Thats the cat and non-cat versions.
figures that cat adds 5kgs
No, thats for fitting williams track...16v is nothing special over the lessers clios than the better shocks/springs.
All you need to fit the stuff to your RSI is hub carriers with 54mm spacing and of course the 16vshocks/springs...beyond that, they just bolt on. Done it on my 1.2...miles better....
Right for now ive decided to get some 16v suspension bits, however im unsure on what i need. Also whats the hub carrier?
Justin..
12-02-2006, 20:09
the bit the disc and wheel bolts to it :wink:
Clio_GTT
13-02-2006, 00:06
the bit the disc and wheel bolts to it :wink:
thats the hub numpty, the hub carrier is the bit the shock bolts too along with the track rod end and ball joint.
Justin..
13-02-2006, 00:07
:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: oops my bad
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