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fasterthanjesus
16-01-2006, 17:49
If i was to spend money, say about a grand, what should i do to my williams 3 - based upon shes had no "extras" to date, bar lowering?????

thankyouplease

ftj

J o n
16-01-2006, 17:57
well, best to start with the basics, although tbh you could prolly just about squeeze to cams for that price...AWT come highly recommended. so either, filter (K&N or ITG) £30, zorst, Top Gear MotorSport Burnley and Blue Flame in Wigan are good, £250ish, then decat, again, same previous mentioned places £60 (all custom made too). chip wiazards also very good, results are fooking incredible for a remap, which alone makes as much difference as cams for £350, however get both and it's a lethal combination. on the strip they can look similar in terms of times, but just look at 2 lives and the nana for fully prep'd track cars and it's how fast they get to the limiter in 5th that's the scariest thing. i'll get mine mapped soon so it will basically be to same spec, had it near already when i borrowed 2 lives chip for the track day... difference over a standard williams is incredible, makes it look like they are in reverse

stew
16-01-2006, 17:58
A grand you say? let me think.......


if she's totaly standard then i would get :

1)Free flowing air filter (ITG ~£25)
2)Stainless Steel exhaust system and decat pipe ~£300
3)260deg cams and remap ~£700


Depends what you want really....

A grand dont go very far when it comes to tuning im afraid.

Im looking at over 2k for :

276deg piper cams
vernier pulleys
new hydraulic followers
cambelt and tensioners
porting of the head and matching inlet and exhaust manifolds
dastek ECU
new radiator
19 row oil cooler
new clutch
cleaned and painted engine and gearbox


Should be rocking when done though! :twisted: :twisted:

Martin
16-01-2006, 18:01
^ what Jesus said lol If you intend on getting cams at some point in the future don't bother with the chipwizard map, save it for afterwards. But if you are keeping the car on std cams go for the exhaust, de-cat, re-map and supersprint manifold.

Lunner
16-01-2006, 18:13
I'll sort you a decat for £35 delivered

gozziee
16-01-2006, 18:55
I'll sort you a decat for £35 delivered

hi i would like a de-cat for my willy does it make a lot of difference in performance mine is standard apart from a zorst and filter

Lunner
16-01-2006, 19:13
Can't comment on the williams, but on the RSi (1.8 8v) it is noticably 'freeer' higher up teh rev range, and it seems to pull for longer, also give it a nice beefy rumble, and it will pop and if you are lucky spit flames lol

stew
16-01-2006, 19:26
Can't comment on the williams, but on the RSi (1.8 8v) it is noticably 'freeer' higher up teh rev range, and it seems to pull for longer, also give it a nice beefy rumble, and it will pop and if you are lucky spit flames lol

Same story with the F7P or F7R engines.

black williams
16-01-2006, 20:01
mine has a decat and it made a lot of diff

Clio_GTT
16-01-2006, 20:15
Decats are the mutts nutts, massive pops and bangs on overrun with a cheeky flame here and there :D awesome

black williams
16-01-2006, 20:19
Decats are the mutts nutts, massive pops and bangs on overrun with a cheeky flame here and there :D awesome
i dont really get a lot of that

J o n
16-01-2006, 20:27
mine flames at will... looks mint too... apparently... lol

black williams
16-01-2006, 20:30
mine only revs to 6k dont no why

J o n
16-01-2006, 20:32
only revs to 6k on a willy engine??? deffo not right that, does it bounce the needle off 6k, or just stop reving?

black williams
16-01-2006, 20:54
only revs to 6k on a willy engine??? deffo not right that, does it bounce the needle off 6k, or just stop reving?
it bounces the needle

Martin
16-01-2006, 21:23
Might well be the problem Gaz had with a faulty rev counter...

richy
16-01-2006, 21:31
firstly id look at a panel filter and decat/stainless exhaust system, then id look at cams/remap afterwards, but that lot in total will be over 1k

Clio_GTT
16-01-2006, 21:33
Decats are the mutts nutts, massive pops and bangs on overrun with a cheeky flame here and there :D awesome
i dont really get a lot of that

theres a trick to getting it to do it a lot, just plip the accelerator on overrun, i take it up to 4.5 - 5 k rpm then back off and plip the accelerator, gives a massive bang and a nice little flame :D

Lunner
17-01-2006, 15:17
I get pops on downshift, only since i';ve started using super/optimax in it after i read that the 1.8 upwrads is designed to run on 97 RON fuel

stew
17-01-2006, 16:03
I get pops on downshift, only since i';ve started using super/optimax in it after i read that the 1.8 upwrads is designed to run on 97 RON fuel

I put in optimax and reset the ecu couple weeks back!

OMG much better!

Then i was desperate so bought 20 quids worth of tesco 95 ron! It seems just as good. Much better than normal shell 95 ron. Maybee i just got a good tank...not sure...need to fill up soon so will let ya know...

What do most of you hardcore trackgoers and 1/4milers use?

standard 95 ron?
optimax/bp ultimate?
100+ ron racing fuel? :twisted:

Lunner
17-01-2006, 16:08
Yeah i reset the ECU, had to stick £15 or normal petrol in there, but filled back up with optimax now

Martin
17-01-2006, 17:21
I get pops on downshift, only since i';ve started using super/optimax in it after i read that the 1.8 upwrads is designed to run on 97 RON fuel

I put in optimax and reset the ecu couple weeks back!

OMG much better!

Then i was desperate so bought 20 quids worth of tesco 95 ron! It seems just as good. Much better than normal shell 95 ron. Maybee i just got a good tank...not sure...need to fill up soon so will let ya know...

What do most of you hardcore trackgoers and 1/4milers use?

standard 95 ron?
optimax/bp ultimate?
100+ ron racing fuel? :twisted:

I use optimax or super unleaded when I know I'm gonna by 1/4 miling and have tried Deep Blue 108 octane racing fuel but it did'nt make much difference...

stew
17-01-2006, 18:10
Ok nice one. Shame petrol costs so damn much...and mine drinks so much of the stuff.

I'll be hoping for 300miles from a tank if im coming down to pod. Only normally get 260! :shock:

Andy
17-01-2006, 18:23
nothing but optimax touches my tank

Martin
17-01-2006, 18:32
Ok nice one. Shame petrol costs so damn much...and mine drinks so much of the stuff.

I'll be hoping for 300miles from a tank if im coming down to pod. Only normally get 260! :shock:

I think yours must be broke mate I did 340 miles to a tank last time I checked!

J o n
17-01-2006, 18:38
nothing but optimax touches my tank

yeah but you've only filled it up once you pussy

jay s
17-01-2006, 18:40
where can u get some of this 100plus race fuel from?? would'nt mine some of that for the pod :twisted:

Martin
17-01-2006, 18:41
Like I said mate it's not worth it....plus it's expensive!

big hp
17-01-2006, 18:43
Either optimax or tesco 99 ron for me.

BP garage near me have started selling ultimate, might try that next time I fill up.

jay s
17-01-2006, 18:44
:( :( :( stick to the optimax then.

gtbloke
19-01-2006, 10:34
Decats are the mutts nutts, massive pops and bangs on overrun with a cheeky flame here and there awesome

what about us that never had a cat in the first place :lol: