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i have a chance to buy a 165k mile williams
this sounds like a hell of alot of miles
apparently the engine is smooth and you'd never guess the mileage is tis high from driving it??
is this a risk paying 1500 for this car on such a high mileage and will the beast only last a few hundred miles more before she's ready to retire?
whats highest milage williams any of you lot know of?
any advice appreciated
matt
IIRC snakey ladies willy 2 was on 145K??? and purred as sweet as a pussycat! :D
really
just seems like a lot of ****in miles
how far can these engines actually go?
£1500 is pretty cheap is it not?
COuld always buy it and overhaul the engine, take it back to new(ish)
Stromba bought one on around 150k IIRC.
As long as the engines good then it wouldn't bother me too much.
Theres a couple of valvers on here with 150k and still going strong. As long as there looked after they'll last forever.
what should i look out for then on such a high mileage car when going to buy it?
any tips dont wanna buy a time bomb waiting to go off...
as long as the bodywork is a ok i dont see the problem. u can alway rebuild the engine/put a new one in easy
what number williams 1 is it?
Andyvalver
15-01-2006, 19:44
Make sure the box feels ok. Nowt worse than havin to take the engine out straight away.
its a williams 2
no number
6 months MOT no tax
recent clutch les than 300 mile ago
Get it MOTed, will pick up on any little faults etc
am i right in saying if its a shit pit then he could easily get his 1.5k back by stripping and selling the parts off?
Yup, but its the hassle of it
so basically make sure gearbox is ok
things that seem to always be up with my valvers are ****in wheel bearings
are the williams prone to these ****in up too?
i think for £1500
i cant go to wrong can i?
whats the worst that could happen :D
think so? ive had one go on my willy 3 in the past 2 years but thats it! whats the deal with the bearings? cheap enough to get sorted? or is it just the pain of doing it mate?
what ya got at the mo then matt?
Pretty much no, just make sure shell is sound, engine can be rebuilt/replaced, shell is more of a cunt to sort
what ya got at the mo then matt?
so basically make sure gearbox is ok
things that seem to always be up with my valvers are ****in wheel bearings
are the williams prone to these ****in up too?
;)
well as you know i won that williams with rear end damageon ebay just after xmas for 1500
that was a ****in nail tho
bearings just piss me off lol i must have had 6 go on my 4 valvers
£50+ a crack each to when booked in at garage
got a black swift gti at min which i bought for £475
10 months mot
awww shes a little beast :P you'd be suprised!
as said mate, as long as bodywork is ok you can buy a new engine
winston @ LTR has one dont he lads? £450 + fitting
that just over 2k and u got urself a minta of a car
but then, the miles dont just relate to the engine, 150k or whatever it was will not be good on the suspension, bushes, wishbones, cv, steering rack, PAS
there are alot of other things that can go wrong mate other than the engine
there not that bad
it outruns my mates valver too 100mph from standing start and thats dyno'd at 141bhp with zorst and decat and filter
my swift is about 105bhp but only 730kg ;)
i'll never sell it i'd keep it as a runaround
bullet proof jap engine, forged pistons
1.3 16v gti
i know but also...
165k motowray careful staeady miles
are better than 10k thrashed to an inch of its life miles
right...........?
whats that place to check how many previous owners
i've got the number plate
RAC website mate, just follow ur nose and u will find it no probs
Manufacturer RENAULT
Model CLIO WILLIAMS 2
Body type 5 DOOR HATCHBACK
Colour BLUE
Fuel type PETROL
Date manufactured 31 December 1995
Number of previous owners 3
Last owner change 26 October 2003
5 door hatchback :S ??????????????
yeah the rac website does have a few mistakes! ignore that
fella its 1.5k! could be the chance of a lifetime???? or could be a bad risk! if i were you i would do it!!!!!
bite to bullet and do it matey, may live to regret it, only 3 owners, that aint half bad...and prev owner brought it a good 2-3 yrs ago so he/she has properly used it
go buy it dude
i'm realy tempted
cant i just pay some extra $$$ to a garage and have the engine/box fully checked and little bits replaced taht may be more worn than other bits.
dunno what i'm talking about really
i wouldnt mind if it was a toyota or honda on that many miles but a RENAULT lol
would the BHP be affected by this many miles
probably only as fast as a valver lol
and there slow....
cant i just pay some extra $$$ to a garage and have the engine/box fully checked and little bits replaced taht may be more worn than other bits.
yea, its called a service dude lol
take it to renault for one
ha ha... nice make me look stupid :P
you know what i mean
things like worn cam's rattly tappets
crank etc etc
suely somre of this must be on its way out
mnd you whats to say it hasnt been rebuilt in past anyway:s
black williams
15-01-2006, 20:29
i just checked dvla on that reg and came up as 5 door aswell dont no wot thats anout
i just checked dvla on that reg and came up as 5 door aswell dont no wot thats anout
Quite a few of our cars come up as 5-doors too. As Fatboy says, ignore it!
I say go for it Matt, if that's all you can afford. You certainly get what you pay for when it comes to a Williams, but if you can't spend any more, there's no reason a 165k old one will be particularly worse than any other 1500 quid example.
adding to the problem is the fact that the car is over 300 miles from me!
if i risk a train down at £80 for a ticket and the cars a nail.. i'll have to pay another £80 to get home with no car!
also £50 petrol if the car is ok
so thats a further £150 ontop of the initial 1500
then another £93.50 for tax
brings the total to......
£1750 should i just shop around?????
if u want it, u want it tho.
right down near lands end
basically very very very south/west
i'm in nottingham
dont worry about the 5 door thing....theres quite a few williams registered as 5 doors......mines down as a 5 door estate :shock: :lol:
right down near lands end
basically very very very south/west
i'm in nottingham
Oh, bit far then. If you find any close to Southampton, I'll go have a look for you :)
black williams
15-01-2006, 22:15
the car is taxed till end of dec 06 on the dvla thing
what dvla thing?
apparently tax ran out at end of dec 05 according to the seller
VIPERONE
15-01-2006, 23:15
if its the one that is based in Northallerton stay away.
no its near plymouth mate
still gonna work out costing me close on £1800 tho at this rate
with travelling and tax etc...
may aswell get one for £2000+
on about 70k mile surely?
MatBrown
16-01-2006, 01:17
the car is taxed till end of dec 06 on the dvla thing
That will be when the SORN declaration runs out.
Mat.
MatBrown
16-01-2006, 01:18
no its near plymouth mate
still gonna work out costing me close on £1800 tho at this rate
with travelling and tax etc...
may aswell get one for £2000+
on about 70k mile surely?
Yeah,
I just sold one on 102k that i had changed the cambelt, clutch, waterpump etc on for about that price.
Mat.
there must be someone on here that can go check it oot for you that lives near there :?
i've decided to wait save up 2-3 k and get a good condition low mileage williams 1
thanks anyway lads
matt
black williams
17-01-2006, 01:03
good idea mate dont buy one if your not happy with it
MatBrown
17-01-2006, 02:17
I have a Williams 1 for sale at £3k.
Mat.
Give him a chance Mat :wink: ...
i've decided to wait save up 2-3 k and get a good condition low mileage williams 1
thanks anyway lads
matt
MatBrown
17-01-2006, 12:33
Well i'm not far away so he could always just come and have a look, get him motivated. :wink:
Mat.
would be nice matebut my previous threads says i need to save up to the magic £3000 mark.
i'll get there one day boys :P
how much u got at the moment?
the word
LITTLE LOAN comes to mind :D
goodnews lads
buying a willy2 for £1250
seriously
i'll put uppics tomorrow
wish me luck
;)
goodnews lads
buying a willy2 for £1250
seriously
i'll put uppics tomorrow
wish me luck
;)
:shock: 1250 is very cheap could be a shitter
nope
160k miles
full history to 140k
upgraded front brakes
6 months mot
fully recon willy wheels with silver lip,
new clutch and cambelt within last 1000k
all recipets for work
mostly motorway miles
no rust on rear arches!
aftermarket matrix alram with remote alarm and remote start
i am not shitting you i will have this car tomorrow at 5pm
cant wait!!!!
MatBrown
11-02-2006, 21:47
It's gone 5pm, lets see some pics then. :P
Mat.
just got home guys
4.5 hour drive! back from plymouth to nottingham
anyway the cars bodywork is MINT and the wheels are 9/10 for sure
will get pics up tomorrow when i have chance as its pitch black now
list of probs i'lkl have fixed tomorrow:
exhaust clanging about
play in steering (needs welding)
list of probs i dunno how to fix:
so help me please!!!
petrol gauge is stuck on halfway
rev counter sometimes has a mind of its own... even at a steady 3.5k (70mph) its jumping about betwwen 3-4k revs but with no affect to the actuall cars revving...... odd
also the car misfires if you try and floor it, this happens 75% of the time and expecially when cold!. if you take it steady and are light footed the thing drives great. any ideas? this is the main problem i really wanna sort.
anyway after it got warm and i took it steady for a bit i nailed it in 3rd and 4th... didnrt misfire until about 10 seconds into the "hammering it part" so it cant be that serious of a problem cause it was bloody fast!
if anyone knows anything on how to fix this misfire or lives anywhere near nottingham i'll gladly bring it down for you too look at and see if you can sort it for some $$ obviously.
it bound to be just a sensor or plugs surely?
cheers
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