View Full Version : 1.4rt -1.8 16v
lewis_willy2
18-12-2005, 17:34
how hard is it to convert a 1.4rt loom into the 16v 1?
also what do i need to upgrade? ive already got brakes, can i still run rt suspension, track etc?
i noticed the other day that when i took the dash top off that there where extra connectors not connected? ie digital temp for 16v clocks? oil temp/pressure etc? can i when the loom is converted run the dials?? are these the right connectors?
lewis
sorry wrong section?
You'll need the engine half of the loom, this disconnects seperate, AFAIK the car side of the loom is the same for all models.
You'll need higher poundage springs, or lowering springs for the front end, dont' worry about rear brakes, but get valver or 4-pot front brakes
Stearing is all teh same as the RT.
Connectors behind the dash will connnect inot the oil gauges
lewis_willy2
18-12-2005, 17:40
can i run the 16v loom then?? or is it easier to mod mine? wot bout ecu?
Will also need a 16v ECU, forgot about that, pretty damn sure the 16v egnine loom will plug into the RT car loom
It does plug straight in....ive done one of these before. u will also need exhaust sytem, drive shafts, rad/fan....and before anyone mentios it...you DONT need the bonnet. tho it is advisable to fit one for the vent, or at least vent the RT one
lewis_willy2
18-12-2005, 17:51
cool, where does the engine loom connect to the car loom?
ecu top right onto engine then engine loom......car loom??
There is a plug somewhewre can't remember where tho, haynes tells you
on the right hand side (as u look at it) of the engine bay is a black plastic "box". this is the relay box. the engine loom (inc relay box) plugs into the car loom here via 2/3 multiplugs. once u have the 16v engine/loom fitted, just plug the engine loom into the car loom....the same way u took the 1.4 loom out.
lewis_willy2
18-12-2005, 18:50
they red??
pretty sure ive come across these b4
lewis_willy2
18-12-2005, 18:55
the plugs?
no...ones brown, ones white...then theres relays which are all black
lewis_willy2
18-12-2005, 19:00
i'll check my m8s tommorow nite, is it straight forward with gear linkage etc? remove a 16v out of my old valver cuse i ****ed the wiring!!! jus gna be a but more careful!
just disconnect the linkage at the g.box
why do u want to do this conversion? save on insurance? not just buy a cheap valver and do what repairs u need?
lewis_willy2
18-12-2005, 19:20
insurance reasons
really depressin really but basically ive had a ban, im 18 years old and i was paying 2400 a year to insure my valver, now im paying 1650 to insure a 1.4, plus ive got a great shell to do this with, n reg 80k miles tiny, tiny amount of rust, already got 16v brakes gearbox, front bumper wings, black carpet phs2 interior, 55mm lowering springs and ive got some mechanical knowledge as i was a mechanical for 15 months, also peeps on here are so helpful its gna be very cheap for me to do,
only thing is the rear arches?
doing for myself, not to make money on the car!
wots peeps opinions?
what u get banned for? i was paying 1500 tpft on a rt r reg with 2 crashes on me name with budget a couple of years ago. bad luck
lewis_willy2
18-12-2005, 19:24
v.embarasin
but not speeding
DR10
lol....live and learn fella
do it..i would (the conversion that is!)
Yeah, but don't forget you still need to decalir a conversion, unless it looks the same ;)....and insuring a conversion is more than insuring a straight valver.
Why not go for a 1.6 bottem end ;)
my clio (2.0 16v t.b's etc etc) is the only car ive had thats fully legit insurance!
im not condoning insurance fraud, but hey....
lewis_willy2
18-12-2005, 19:50
all legit peeps, gna start this weekend hopefully, wots the views, had a valver engine with 109k on it, still got so much paper work, for oil changes etc, really good lump, but rocker cover was removed and water got in so cylinder head has got surface rust, cams etc, will this be usable again? or jus buy a second hand 1? use the bottom end and gearbox i already have?
Just over haul everything, new big end bearings, piston rings and change all teh seals, clutch etc
lewis_willy2
18-12-2005, 21:22
what about the cylinder head? its covered in surface rust??
Thought the head was aluminium? :?
wouldnt it be easier to buy a 1.8 valver? insurance will be round the same
lewis_willy2
18-12-2005, 21:38
def rust on it, bollox to it tho gna get a 2nd hand head, skimmed n that. i'll post some pics of the head 2mro, just in the top theres rust, still attatched to the block?
VIPERONE
18-12-2005, 21:43
as per lunner head is alu
Justin..
19-12-2005, 01:42
def rust on it, bollox to it tho gna get a 2nd hand head, skimmed n that. i'll post some pics of the head 2mro, just in the top theres rust, still attatched to the block?
u sure its not just oxidisation, gone like powdery?
get a pic up!!
Andyvalver
19-12-2005, 17:20
Wouldnt it be easier to buy a valver and put rt wings, bonnet and bumbers on it lol :wink:
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