Wide Track

[clowo16v]

Can somebody please point me in the direction of what I need to widetrack the car as while i'm changing the engine I thought it'd be something interesting to do.

See ya

Matt

[richy]

all u need is:-
williams driveshafts(both sides)
ARB and fittings
both wishbones
both struts

[clowo16v]

What can I use off a 19 16v?

See ya

Matt

[richy]

theres only 1 driveshaft u can use iirc not sure which side it was, u can use the wishbones and pos arb if its right fitment, cant use struts

[Hulio]

If i remember rightly you can use ren 19 wishbones and passenger side drive shaft.

[GazTwo]

This is from the invoice I have from when Martin did the wide track......

Part Number / Description / Quantity

R60 01 025 842 - N/STK 003566/003566/ x 1
R60 01 025 841 - N/STK ARM SUSP x 1
R60 01 025 814 - N/STK ANTI-ROLL BAR x 1
R77 00 785 788 - N/STK BUSH A/R BAR x 2
R82 00 078 548 - 10471 CLIP A/ROLL BAR x 2
R77 03 035 027 - N/STK NUT x 2
R77 03 002 116 - N/STK SCREW M8-2 x 4
R77 00 784 170 - N/STK BUSH A/R BAR x 2
R77 00 784 169 - N/STK CLIP A/R BAR x 2
R77 03 034 017 - N/STK NUT 8X125 x 2
R77 01 367 623 - N/STK DRIVE SHAFT RH x 1
R77 01 367 627 - N/STK DRIVE SHAFT LH x 1

[Plattsy]

how much was all that then? was it from renault?

[Jamie.]

i thought u were getting a 2,.0 nova?

[Justin..]

This is from the invoice I have from when Martin did the wide track......

Part Number / Description / Quantity

R60 01 025 842 - N/STK 003566/003566/ x 1
R60 01 025 841 - N/STK ARM SUSP x 1
R60 01 025 814 - N/STK ANTI-ROLL BAR x 1
R77 00 785 788 - N/STK BUSH A/R BAR x 2
R82 00 078 548 - 10471 CLIP A/ROLL BAR x 2
R77 03 035 027 - N/STK NUT x 2
R77 03 002 116 - N/STK SCREW M8-2 x 4
R77 00 784 170 - N/STK BUSH A/R BAR x 2
R77 00 784 169 - N/STK CLIP A/R BAR x 2
R77 03 034 017 - N/STK NUT 8X125 x 2
R77 01 367 623 - N/STK DRIVE SHAFT RH x 1
R77 01 367 627 - N/STK DRIVE SHAFT LH x 1

is that renualt part codes?

[MatBrown]

Yes.



Mat.

[MatBrown]

This is from the invoice I have from when Martin did the wide track......

Part Number / Description / Quantity

R60 01 025 842 - N/STK 003566/003566/ x 1
R60 01 025 841 - N/STK ARM SUSP x 1
R60 01 025 814 - N/STK ANTI-ROLL BAR x 1
R77 00 785 788 - N/STK BUSH A/R BAR x 2
R82 00 078 548 - 10471 CLIP A/ROLL BAR x 2
R77 03 035 027 - N/STK NUT x 2
R77 03 002 116 - N/STK SCREW M8-2 x 4
R77 00 784 170 - N/STK BUSH A/R BAR x 2
R77 00 784 169 - N/STK CLIP A/R BAR x 2
R77 03 034 017 - N/STK NUT 8X125 x 2
R77 01 367 623 - N/STK DRIVE SHAFT RH x 1
R77 01 367 627 - N/STK DRIVE SHAFT LH x 1

There's no shocks listed there?
7700838095 x2



Mat.

[Dancliovalver]

ive also been thinking about doing the widetrack!!!

can anybody gimme a price on it all and also how easy is it to fit??

[Martin]

I used coilovers Mat..

Dan the above cost £570 quid but you could source 2nd hand bits cheaper... You have to add on springs& shocks or coilovers to those parts.

[Lunner]

Alot can be got from GSF, iirc reno wishbones, for teh std clio anyway are £70, gsf is £26 i THINK, or around that

[richy]

bayliss has done the conversion twice(2 cars) and rich will be doing one soon, both costing them a few hundred quid for the lot :)

[Dancliovalver]

is it eadt to fit?

[Lunner]

Yeah pretty easy if you are handy with spanners, don't really need any special tools, apart from ball joint seperator and possibly a hub puller

[Dancliovalver]

yeah ive got a ball joint splitter, u can help me if u want lunner lol

[richy]

Yeah pretty easy if you are handy with spanners, don't really need any special tools, apart from ball joint seperator and possibly a hub puller

dont really need a ball joint tool, if your ball joints are ok just replace the wishbones themselfs, usually drive shafts are not to bad to get out of the hubs!

id just advise to use a ramp really, as the most awkward bit is swapping the ARB esp if u do it on the floor!

[Dancliovalver]

ive got a mate who owns a gargae with hydrolic ramps and what not, he does me jobs and doesnt charge any VAT, do u know ruffly how many hours it would normaly take??

how do u get the driveshafts out?
and so u need williams suspension/coilovers, or can i modify my 16v avo coilovers?

[Lunner]

yeah ive got a ball joint splitter, u can help me if u want lunner lol

Depends where you live fella, if you are local i'm more than happy to lend a hand.

Richy......may as well replace ball joints for shiney new ones while it off, lower and track rod ends, also might be worth replacing the ARB bushes

[Lunner]

ive got a mate who owns a gargae with hydrolic ramps and what not, he does me jobs and doesnt charge any VAT, do u know ruffly how many hours it would normaly take??

how do u get the driveshafts out?
and so u need williams suspension/coilovers, or can i modify my 16v avo coilovers?

o/s driveshaft there is a 5mm roll pin that needs driving out, diff end, and then pulls out, n/s you need to drain gearbox oil and then just pulls out

Should be able to modify your valver coilovers

[Dancliovalver]

kool how would i go about modifying my suspension to fit then, make the holes bigger?

[richy]

very true lunner, me personally id swap them anyway but its not needed if there ok tbh

dan u should use williams shocks really but i suppose if u filed/drilled the avo strut holes and manually adjusted your camber to what u wanted u could get away with that, and yes id replace the arb bushes as u will be removing them anyway, btw the fittings for the arb-wishbones are different on valver and williams so u will need the fittings/bushes anyway

[Plattsy]

im doing this but its gonna cost me an arm and a leg and probably my left bollock....ill be using all new parts, warranty and plus they will last alot longer!

[Lunner]

very true lunner, me personally id swap them anyway but its not needed if there ok tbh

dan u should use williams shocks really but i suppose if u filed/drilled the avo strut holes and manually adjusted your camber to what u wanted u could get away with that, and yes id replace the arb bushes as u will be removing them anyway, btw the fittings for the arb-wishbones are different on valver and williams so u will need the fittings/bushes anyway

Ahhhh so those are the fittings that powerflex sell teh bushes for? just a straight cut end on teh arb and the bush slides over and is clamped on? On the Rsi/16v then end of the arb is flat and has a hole and is bolted to the wishbone

[clowo16v]

I am getting a Nova its just i'm breaking a 19 16v wondered what bits I could use to wide track it. Can't be arsed spending money though its not worth it.

See ya

Matt

[Zollo]

im doing this but its gonna cost me an arm and a leg and probably my left bollock....ill be using all new parts, warranty and plus they will last alot longer!

Definately the best way of doing it. There's not much point in a wider track front end if it's based on knackered bushes and worn shocks :?

[Hulio]

I have all second hand parts for my wide track apart from new bushes.
My setup feels tight and cost me under £500 including getting the car lowered on -35mm springs.
You can do it cheap if you get decent second hand parts but I suppose its a bit of a lottery.