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Cam car is a 106 Rallye, with a 106 GTi engine, stripped n caged, uprated suspension, GTi6 brakes, and GTi6 15s with semi-slick Yokos.
My Willy is standard bar a decat and system, and some interior out. Oh, and knackered brakes. Nursing them round I was :wink:
I know this wasn't the quickest way to lap, but it was fun....
http://www.flamingmonkey.myzen.co.uk/zollo/cadwell.wmv
:lol: .....FUKING class as always..... :wink:
cool, u got it out of shape near end lol
Chuffing nora thats quality!!! Plenty of lift off oversteer !! :D
Looked like you were both travelling at a fair rate of knots round there.
Love it!!
:twisted:
cool, u got it out of shape near end lol
:oops:
Yeah, you'll notice I stopped pretty soon after that. Pushed my luck enough for one session :P
lol.....class that fella.
Good vid mate, would you say the 16v rallye was about the same as a willy round a track then?
to be fair cadwell is a very tough track and where you got it out of shape every time was comin down through the S bends, that bit of the track catches a lot of people out as the camber changes drastically which can chuck the car about all over!
Good vid mate, would you say the 16v rallye was about the same as a willy round a track then?
Performance wise it's easy enough to compare, and I reckon they were pretty even. Leading onto short straights he was better, because his second gear was longer and whilst I was having to change into third almost immediately after the corner, he could let his run. On the longer straights though, there wasn't anything in it I don't think.
As for cornering, it was a little unfair cos I was running 185 Goodyears and he had proper semi-slick jobbies! You could tell he had a lot more outright grip in the tight stuff because he was right on me by the exit.
Some of that would have been because he was able to catch up on the brakes too though, cos mine really were knackered and I still had a 200 mile journey home to think about!
The Rallye's do make awesome track cars. But same as the Willy, I wouldn't want to start modifying them too much cos they're worth a lot. You'd do as well to just strip out and mod' a normal GTi I reckon.
to be fair cadwell is a very tough track and where you got it out of shape every time was comin down through the S bends, that bit of the track catches a lot of people out as the camber changes drastically which can chuck the car about all over!
Yeah, that bit is nasty! It caught me out the first time I went round. Passenger went :o
yeah i've not driven cadwell myself but have been a passenger a couple of times so i know the track a little bit! the hairpin could be fun too if your carrying a little too much speed going into it :lol:
awesome vid that mate!
did u find it on another forum or something?
track does looks a bit narrow, seen a few vids of cars coming off at cadwell!
awesome vid that mate!
did u find it on another forum or something?
track does looks a bit narrow, seen a few vids of cars coming off at cadwell!
Nah, I know the guy who was driving the 106 so he sent it to me.
Yeah, some of the track is well tight and has bugger-all run off. Amazingly, there was only one track stoppage the whole day :shock:
class Matt, good driving once again pal
Swervin_Mervin
17-11-2005, 15:44
Nice one Matt. Well held! :wink:
what was the orange light that came on whilst he was driving round in that 106, mint vid by the way zollo, look forward to doing the same track myself
That's the petrol light if I remember correctly. Well spotted! I was running half a tank so I can use that one on him :P
Sweet vid deffo want to go to cadwell you can see why they call it the uk's nurburgring.
Glad you all like it guys, cheers for the comments :)
I can see a Cadwell club track day coming on..... :twisted:
Swervin_Mervin
17-11-2005, 18:36
I predict many crashes if we go there :P Looks fun but also ready to catch the un-wary.
Be careful round Cadwell! Not a track I fancy doing, done Donnington and Bedford but Cadwell no chance!
http://www.suicidesquad.demon.co.uk/cadwell%20big%20crash.wmv
I saw that vid before I went there... not the greatest of things to watch to ease the nerves :?
Incidentally Zed, it was a GTi6 club track day, and there were some awesome 6s there. An ex-BTCC 306 among others.
Swervin_Mervin
17-11-2005, 18:49
Is that the Ecosse liveried 306 that was at FCS?
Just reading up on it now mate
http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=36656&page=2
Seems like you made a impression on the 6 lads :wink:
Next year I'll be joining you lot for a trackday, just need to sort some finances out, wanna see how my 6 compares to my old 172 on track.
Swervin_Mervin
17-11-2005, 18:55
I believe one of the old school evo boys was there as well (JonMad).
Is that the Ecosse liveried 306 that was at FCS?
White with purple stripes along the sides?
Just reading up on it now mate
http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=36656&page=2
Seems like you made a impression on the 6 lads :wink:
It's on the 106 Rallye website now too :shock:
wanna see how my 6 compares to my old 172 on track.
Very well indeed from my experience. The 306 is just like the Willy - with a bit more weight to carry - and is great fun round a track. The 172 I drove round a track was fast, but not nearly as much fun. Depends how you like to drive really!
Good vid mate, would you say the 16v rallye was about the same as a willy round a track then?
Performance wise it's easy enough to compare, and I reckon they were pretty even. Leading onto short straights he was better, because his second gear was longer and whilst I was having to change into third almost immediately after the corner, he could let his run. On the longer straights though, there wasn't anything in it I don't think.
As for cornering, it was a little unfair cos I was running 185 Goodyears and he had proper semi-slick jobbies! You could tell he had a lot more outright grip in the tight stuff because he was right on me by the exit.
Some of that would have been because he was able to catch up on the brakes too though, cos mine really were knackered and I still had a 200 mile journey home to think about!
The Rallye's do make awesome track cars. But same as the Willy, I wouldn't want to start modifying them too much cos they're worth a lot. You'd do as well to just strip out and mod' a normal GTi I reckon.
Goodness me.... listen to all the excuses! :lol: The Rallye is clearly FAAAAR better! hehe
Nah, seriously, that was a great bit of fun. As a GTi-6 and 106 Rallye owner, I never ever imagined the Clio was as good as it is... Given the various non-standard bits I had on mine, I'm amazed at how well Matt stayed in front 8)
Be great to try and have our next 106/306 trackday along with you guys too (i'm sure you'll all be much quicker than those bloody R5s lol)....
Gaz.... need to talk to you next time you're on MSN!
Cheers all,
Kev
Just reading up on it now mate
http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=36656&page=2
Seems like you made a impression on the 6 lads :wink:
It's on the 106 Rallye website now too :shock:
wanna see how my 6 compares to my old 172 on track.
Very well indeed from my experience. The 306 is just like the Willy - with a bit more weight to carry - and is great fun round a track. The 172 I drove round a track was fast, but not nearly as much fun. Depends how you like to drive really!
On the road the 6 is a lot more fun then my old mk1 172 was, lot better body control, lot more feel through the wheel and the rear wheel steer is just quality once you get used to it, on track it should be fun. Looking forward to it, think I'll be taking it a bit more steady then you though lol quality skills on that vid!
awsome vid that!! nice driving....
the williams sweeps round the coners so nicely. makes me want williams track and suspension on my valver so badly...
had a close one there didn't ya :D, nicely held
Goodness me.... listen to all the excuses! :lol: The Rallye is clearly FAAAAR better! hehe
Busted. :oops:
Good vid mate, would you say the 16v rallye was about the same as a willy round a track then?
Performance wise it's easy enough to compare, and I reckon they were pretty even. Leading onto short straights he was better, because his second gear was longer and whilst I was having to change into third almost immediately after the corner, he could let his run. On the longer straights though, there wasn't anything in it I don't think.
As for cornering, it was a little unfair cos I was running 185 Goodyears and he had proper semi-slick jobbies! You could tell he had a lot more outright grip in the tight stuff because he was right on me by the exit.
Some of that would have been because he was able to catch up on the brakes too though, cos mine really were knackered and I still had a 200 mile journey home to think about!
The Rallye's do make awesome track cars. But same as the Willy, I wouldn't want to start modifying them too much cos they're worth a lot. You'd do as well to just strip out and mod' a normal GTi I reckon.
Goodness me.... listen to all the excuses! :lol: The Rallye is clearly FAAAAR better! hehe
Nah, seriously, that was a great bit of fun. As a GTi-6 and 106 Rallye owner, I never ever imagined the Clio was as good as it is... Given the various non-standard bits I had on mine, I'm amazed at how well Matt stayed in front 8)
Be great to try and have our next 106/306 trackday along with you guys too (i'm sure you'll all be much quicker than those bloody R5s lol)....
Gaz.... need to talk to you next time you're on MSN!
Cheers all,
Kev
i wouldnt mind going cadwell park early next year(ish), be nice to go out and play with the 106's/306's etc alot of us off here love doing trackdays, although it does seem the pug lot are more serious about it, and mod there cars alot more(maybe due to lower cost lol)
but def worth getting both groups together next year sometime :)
i'm game for that too! seems the pug lads know how to have a laugh too and not be up their own arses! would be great for both clubs to organise a massive track session 8)
Sounds good to me guys, and cheers for the good words - it's a nice atmosphere in the Pug club(s) (on the whole) so would be good to put them together....
How does the 2nd/3rd week in February grab everyone?
Kev
hmmm dunno about everyone else but i was hopint it to be more v.late march/early april time (new student loan installment :lol: )
Zollo - awsome driving mate, very impressed, how did the willy feel round some of those bends, was it comfortable or well on the limit?
Danny
Problem is the cost...
All the MSV circuits (Cadwell, Snetterton, Oulton and Brands) cost us less during the winter months (Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb)...
If it's in February, then we should be able to do it for £100 same as this time... and that's not bad for 2 drivers, and free spectators/passengers....
We'll be doing loads throughout the year though, so definitely be one in April-time too....
might have to jump on the feb one if i can afford it! i'm at uni in lincoln so travel to and from the circuit isnt the problem for once :D best thing is to have a word with gaz as he organises stuff like this on our behalf and see what your two heads can come up with date and figure wise :)
hopefully ill be able to put some cash aside for then, def up for it! :)
Zollo - awsome driving mate, very impressed, how did the willy feel round some of those bends, was it comfortable or well on the limit?
Danny
The Willy was awesome mate; more than happy to be chucked around like that, and didn't once do something that I didn't expect, so I was comfortable driving it like that.
It could have been driven quicker with a smoother driving style and better lines, definately, so although it was on its limits of grip, it wasn't on the limits of its capabilities, if you know what I mean.
spot on mate, i know what you mean.
So when's the next track day pal?
That's up to Gaz and Kev.....
Soon though, I hope :P
That was awsome! You have no idea how much I want the track doing as quicky as possible, plus a decent set of tyres!
I really need to get on a track and follow somebody like you, just to see how far behind I am in terms of driving like that, cause your ****ing ace!
LOL, cheers. You're more than welcome to follow me round or come as a passenger. But you'd do well not to copy how I drive, 'cos it certainly isn't the best or fastest way round a track :oops: . Fun though :P
Neil1587
19-11-2005, 13:58
Be careful round Cadwell! Not a track I fancy doing, done Donnington and Bedford but Cadwell no chance!
http://www.suicidesquad.demon.co.uk/cadwell%20big%20crash.wmv
Was there the day of that 200sx crashed :( there was so much standing water on that straight, was a nightmare for the RWD lot! It also took another victim that day, an e30 M3 had a front end smash too :shock: We had a few moments in my mates vtr but managed to get home in one piece. Can't wait to go back in the dry & as for that vid 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) awesome driving :twisted:
Andyvalver
19-11-2005, 14:59
Thats a shit hot vid mate, some good driving too. Nice catch too :wink:
Went into town looking for a driving movie and instead I come home and find this on the forum!Superb.
Theres a lot to be learned from it I think.
did anyone else notice the back end of zollos williams sort of swaying a little too much?
Awesome vid Zollo.
FlamingMonkey
19-11-2005, 17:14
haha excellent vid zollo, first time I watched it, that 106 is quick, I have no trouble at all of dispatching Stu's 106GTi, even before the cams, is it standard?
haha excellent vid zollo, first time I watched it, that 106 is quick, I have no trouble at all of dispatching Stu's 106GTi, even before the cams, is it standard?
It's a standard 16v lump, with induction and Pugsport exhaust, yes. Probably around 125/130bhp I reckon... The real gains come from big brakes (off a GTi6) and the Yoko A048s.
If anyone wants to see, I did another video not following Matt (and hence being a little more sensible!)... It's a bit big though so won't stay hosted for long!
Clicky: 106 Cadwell (http://www.trackslags.com/cadwell/106cadwell2.wmv) (129Mb, wmv)
FlamingMonkey
19-11-2005, 17:34
Nice one, I suppose the Rallye is lighter than the GTi, certainly shifts I'll give you that, downloading your vid now 8)
It's a Rallye-lite too....not much in terms of interior left in it! Some GTi's are a lot faster than others as well, which may explain it? It's quick anyway! :twisted:
It's a Rallye-lite too....not much in terms of interior left in it! Some GTi's are a lot faster than others as well, which may explain it? It's quick anyway! :twisted:
...but the rollcage adds a lot of the weight lost by interior removal :P
Didn't you tell me your mate's one, which is identically prep'd, weighed in at something like 780 kilos?
I didn't write anything down, but I have got a good memory. :wink:
Interesting thread over on 106 rallye forum...lol
Shame the boat like clios don't handle :? I think it shows how good the williams is as stnd that it can keep pace with the engine swapped modded 106..
Interesting thread over on 106 rallye forum...lol
Shame the boat like clios don't handle :? I think it shows how good the williams is as stnd that it can keep pace with the engine swapped modded 106..
Definitely http://www.306gti6.com/smileys/yes.gif
Had never really seen a Williams close up until seeing (and being a passenger in) Matt's. I'm well impressed - I can see why they had (and still do have) such a good following. Would love to have a go in one!
And yeah Matt, Jim had his weighed a while back. Before the cage and everything went in it was just shy of 800kg. Cage won't add that much extra - maybe another 20/30kg?
yup average 6point cage is 30kg, tbf i think both the 106gti/rallyes aswell as williams/valvers are great fun for that kinda track, not driven there myself but nice twisty track is more demanding and fun imo, i liked donny, great track but think places like cadwell are ideal, esp for more giant killing lol
Swervin_Mervin
21-11-2005, 15:25
haha excellent vid zollo, first time I watched it, that 106 is quick, I have no trouble at all of dispatching Stu's 106GTi, even before the cams, is it standard?
It's a standard 16v lump, with induction and Pugsport exhaust, yes. Probably around 125/130bhp I reckon... The real gains come from big brakes (off a GTi6) and the Yoko A048s.
If anyone wants to see, I did another video not following Matt (and hence being a little more sensible!)... It's a bit big though so won't stay hosted for long!
Clicky: 106 Cadwell (http://www.trackslags.com/cadwell/106cadwell2.wmv) (129Mb, wmv)
Not bad. However, I think your attitude towards other track users is a bit off. Steaming up so close is out of order IMO. You should wait until they are comfortable and move over, not steam up behind them with your lights blazing forcing them over.
And then there's the hand twirling and general poor grip of the wheel.
FlamingMonkey
21-11-2005, 15:54
Taken the vid down lads, seems ****ers stole 34Gb of my bandwidth, I only get allocated 3gb per month, plus £2.90 per extra GB ****in gonna cost me £95 !!!!!
Not HAPPY :evil:
****in ell lol Must have been posted on a few forums that link.. harsh!
FlamingMonkey
21-11-2005, 16:00
Yep link was posted elsewhere thats why I checked, ****in 95quid, really didn't need that :(
Swervin_Mervin
21-11-2005, 16:00
I wish I knew what you were both talking about. :?
Swervin_Mervin
21-11-2005, 16:02
Yep link was posted elsewhere thats why I checked, ****in 95quid, really didn't need that :(
So you get charged for people downloading it, if the number is big enough?
FlamingMonkey
21-11-2005, 16:05
Basically I get free download of 3gb a month which is loads...then charged £2.90 per extra Gb over, this file saw over 32GB of traffic.
Top 30 of 202 Total URLs
# Hits KBytes URL
1 2925 32.30% 32821278 95.94% /zollo/cadwell.wmv
Swervin_Mervin
21-11-2005, 16:08
:shock:
FlamingMonkey
21-11-2005, 16:12
It's been posted on:
http://www.maxxd.com
http://www.106rallye.co.uk/
http://www.mr2oc.co.uk/
http://www.pug-club.com/
http://www.highland-cruise.com/
http://www.c2sportsclub.com/
http://www.turbo-nutters.co.uk/
http://www.cruisestockport.com/
http://www.saxosportsclub.com/
http://supervroum.apsidia.com/
http://mmtc.5.forumer.com/
http://www.performancegti.com/
http://www.clubgti.co.uk/
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/
http://forums.roybacer.net/
http://www.rude2cruz.co.uk/
http://www.trackday.cl/
http://www.cruisewestcumbria.co.uk/
http://www.306gti6.com/forum/
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/
http://www.peugeot-gti.net/forums/
Swervin_Mervin
21-11-2005, 16:23
I hold my hands up for posting on the evo board mate, so I'll bob you something to cover it if you want.
Taken the vid down lads, seems f**k**s stole 34Gb of my bandwidth, I only get allocated 3gb per month, plus £2.90 per extra GB ****in gonna cost me £95 !!!!!
Not HAPPY :evil:
:shock: :(
:shock:
Holy shit, I'm sorry mate. :(
I'll sort you out with some money :)
Some amusing discussion on those forums lol
http://forums.roybacer.net/index.php?showtopic=3674&hl=williams
Particularly this one :shock:
http://forums.roybacer.net/index.php?showtopic=3674&hl=williams
Particularly this one :shock:
i've never read so much tosh!
"The williams was on standard suspension...and frankly it was dire round them corners"
:roll:
Well thats Mish16v off here so we will start the spanish inquisition! :twisted: :wink:
Not bad. However, I think your attitude towards other track users is a bit off. Steaming up so close is out of order IMO. You should wait until they are comfortable and move over, not steam up behind them with your lights blazing forcing them over.
And then there's the hand twirling and general poor grip of the wheel.
Points taken on-board Mervin, cheers - guess you dont really stop to think what'd be like from a receivers point of view, but you are right. http://www.306gti6.com/smileys/thumbsup.gif
Not entirely sure I agree about the grip of the wheel though, but I guess everyone has their own technique.
I too am sorry about the bandwidth used - personally I wish the video had never got posted for all the debate it's received.
Also, loving the discussion on Evo!! It's nice to feel so loved. You clearly know Matt_H! It explains a lot...
Swervin_Mervin
21-11-2005, 22:48
I know Matt, yes. I haven't read the discussions on most of the other boards TBH so don't know what's been said.
Your driving in the bigger vid though is far, far better than the 1st IMO, and you're hitting all the apexes as far as I can see, so I can only assume you were having a bit of fun behind Matt. I'm in no position to comment on actual ability TBH as I've only done 2 days myself, that's why I kept my comments to just about the wheel grip and other track dayers. Matt, however, is a seriously experienced track dayer and although I won't say I agree with him or believe everything he says is gospel, his opinion and any advice he gives will be worth more than most of the comments you'll have seen.
Does seem remarkable just how much attention it's received though, and the number of people that like to make comments about either car's abilities when they've probably never driven a car on track.
Swervin_Mervin
21-11-2005, 22:55
It must also be said that from the vids I've seen of a few track days and the day I did at Anglesey, there are also a lot of people that don't seem to want to move out of the way of faster cars at all.
I was hardly tanking it but regularly came up to other cars that refused to move on the safe bits. The sod is that you then have to make a more dangerous move on them to get past. The worst offenders seem to be those with plenty of poewr that don't know how to actually handle their cars round corners, so you catch them up and they nail it on every straight. A-holes.
Cheers for the reply Marvin. I'm sure Matt does know his stuff. I'm just not convinced by his delivery that's all! Just for the record, I'm also fairly experienced, having done 9 days in the last 14 months, in a variety of cars (more latterly the track-project Rallye) - without incident it's worth noting!!
And yeah, you're right, in the video with Matt the whole point was to get some 3-wheel footage, sliding round a few bends etc. I wasn't trying to get past, and he knew that, nor were we trying to be inch perfect... Have to admit, I wish I'd know that he was gonna post the video, but never mind!
I know what you mean about the faster cars - it's the blokes who crawl around the corners who are the worst... That's partly the reason for nailing it so much in the 106 - if you loose momentum, and have slow exit speeds out of corners because you're waiting for people to move, you carry the defecit all the way up the straights. I don't realise i'm doing it, it's totally subconscious, hence why i say i take the point when watching it back with a less "focused" head on!
Plus, the way they transfer weight around, I find that being quite rough with them works best - when I used to track the 306, it was the complete opposite - if you weren't really gently it'd punish you. But the 106 really loves it...
Anyway, as I say, I do take the comments onboard. Cadwell wasn't the best day for me, car was playing up a bit and didn't feel comfortable on right handers at all (hence the constant adjustment). Changed a few of the bushes at the front, so fingers crossed next time will be better.
I have to say though, i love the presumptions that get made on some of those other forums - someone posts the video on the Rallye Register, and a few people on there make comments because (unsurprisingly) they like Rallyes. I don't even know any of them, and yet I'm accountable for what they say! All of a sudden I'm a chav-god who's driving like a TWOCcer and is lucky not to kill someone!!
Anyway, no hard feelings from me, and I do hope we get the chance to arrange a joint GTi6.com and WC day. Our association with UK-trackdays really does deliver the best value trackdays I've ever done, with the most amount of track time and a much more enjoyable day than many others.
Cheers,
Kev
any pics of your car mate?
Swervin_Mervin
22-11-2005, 11:11
I have to say though, i love the presumptions that get made on some of those other forums - someone posts the video on the Rallye Register, and a few people on there make comments because (unsurprisingly) they like Rallyes. I don't even know any of them, and yet I'm accountable for what they say! All of a sudden I'm a chav-god who's driving like a TWOCcer and is lucky not to kill someone!!
Cheers,
Kev
LOL!
http://forums.roybacer.net/index.php?showtopic=3674&hl=williams
Particularly this one :shock:
Never in my life have I read so much utter bullshit, a 205 handles better then a Fezzy RS cos it has a shorter wheelbase, Torsion bars are rubbish, Williams handles dire, dear me these folk do not have a clue, living in there own little bubble world.
FlamingMonkey
22-11-2005, 15:01
Just wanna say thanks to Zollo for offering to pay for the hosting charges, he really didn't have to and I appreciate it, thanks a lot Matt, like I said in the PM your a Gentleman, burgers on me next track day :D
small price to pay to become a celebrity :lol:
No probs Rob, wouldn't be fair you picking up the whole bill for something I caused :oops:
As Fab says, the price of being (in)famous :?
You know from my point of view its not about the money or the comments from those bitch's on the other forums,its all about having fun.you clearly did on the day and well as for the rest of us who watched the vid(hope I speak for eveyone here)we really enjoyed watching it.
i'd pay a fiver just to have a copy :D
Will say this though and correct me if I'm wrong,you left yourself a little bit exposed to critism from others by going alone on the day and also not having the car up to mechanical spec for a track day.
If by not up to mechanical spec you mean my brakes Fab, then yeah, it was a pity. I had tried to get my 4-pots fitted before the track day, but it wasn't to be. Still, it gave Kev a chance to keep up :wink:
And yeah, it was great fun. We're glad most enjoyed it :P
yep the brakes.when I was out with richy @ anglesey those brakes of his were awesome.as a passenger you could feel the difference right away.i'd say(opinion) there are more gains to be had for a skilled driver with good breaks around a track than a driver with more power output.
did mention in an earlier comment that i felt ( I think on one of the s's)that the rear of your car didnt look right.she just didnt seem to me that the rear end was hooked up right.i'd have to look at the vid again to be sure but it didnt seem to want to sit back down right after you breaked late into it.
anyways glad to be able to write here and express my thoughts.
see ya.
yep the brakes.when I was out with richy @ anglesey those brakes of his were awesome.as a passenger you could feel the difference right away.i'd say(opinion) there are more gains to be had for a skilled driver with good breaks around a track than a driver with more power output.
did mention in an earlier comment that i felt ( I think on one of the s's)that the rear of your car didnt look right.she just didnt seem to me that the rear end was hooked up right.i'd have to look at the vid again to be sure but it didnt seem to want to sit back down right after you breaked late into it.
anyways glad to be able to write here and express my thoughts.
see ya.
yeah having 4pots does help alot!, esp since yours are knackered zollo lol
at donington down the back straight i was braking from 110ish each time and didnt have any fade, i was doing 15lap stints and no fade, soke std brakes do seem good but dont usualy last long, esp my old std set on roads they was crap!!!
my brakes are toss, need to get some money together for the wilwoods before any track action!
did mention in an earlier comment that i felt ( I think on one of the s's)that the rear of your car didnt look right.she just didnt seem to me that the rear end was hooked up right.i'd have to look at the vid again to be sure but it didnt seem to want to sit back down right after you breaked late into it.
anyways glad to be able to write here and express my thoughts.
see ya.
That's just the way I was driving it Fab :oops:
You're talking about the fast, right/left just before it goes down hill? If so, even after I was braking quite deep into the right hander, I was trailing the throttle after that, so it would have been loose for quite a large part of the corner. With a more efficient technique, it wouldn't have looked so loose!
So nothing to do with the car, nor the rear torsion bar setup :roll: , just the way it was driven. That goes for the rest of the lap. It could have been done a lot neater and without any twitching rear wheels.
thats the one.You describe it pretty well.
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