Engine Idenitification

[Geezer]

Hello,

I'm sure this has been posted recently but I can't seem to find it anywhere.

How can you tell the difference between a williams engine and valver engine? Also, is there anyway you can tell the difference between the gearboxes? I'm looking for visible differences if possible!

Cheers,

Craig

[BRUN]

exhaust manifold

[James Clio 16v]

Dipstick top. 16v has a black spot, Williams has a white one

[VIPERONE]

take the head off and measure the pistons.
lol

Williams oones are larger!

silver metalic tag on gearboxes state jc3 or jc5 if a williams

[MatBrown]

A lot of the things are easy to take off and swap tho.

The only things on the block are sometimes they have F7R cast into them, more so on the later ones, failing that you need to look for the wide shallow strengthening veins on the back of the block which are the need for the smaller starter motor.
As for the gearbox the only visable difference is the input shaft is bolted in and not part of the casting.
As seen here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Renault-Clio-Williams-Gearbox_W0QQitemZ4588352630QQcategoryZ10410QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem



Mat.

[J o n]

yup, as Mat says above really, saw this info first hand on Saturday... learn something new all the time!

I take it Craigs insuring a 1.8 with TB's then? lol

[Lunner]

Also somethign to note, not sure if it will be checked from year to year, but when tehy do teh MOT tesat i THINK they take the engine number down

[Mattie]

criags found a hybrid so he wants 2 make sure everythins legit!

might be goin with him 2 look at it 2night!

thanks for the help and advice guys! :D

[j3ned]

williams engine is code - F7R 700

clio 1.8 16v engine code is F7P 722

The ID plate is just to the right of the oil filter - usually caked in shit

[Mattie]

williams engine is code - F7R 700

clio 1.8 16v engine code is F7P 722

The ID plate is just to the right of the oil filter - usually caked in shit

is this on the actual engine block or on the body work sumwhere?

[Craig]

this aint me!!! lol!!

I think this could become confusing!

[Mattie]

lol! sorry craig i ment _Craig :?

[j3ned]

williams engine is code - F7R 700

clio 1.8 16v engine code is F7P 722

The ID plate is just to the right of the oil filter - usually caked in shit

is this on the actual engine block or on the body work sumwhere?

Unless theyve started fitting oil filters on the shell it will be on the engine block to the right hand side of the oil filter

[Mattie]

thanks j3ned! :D

[j3ned]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/j3ned/engine16v.jpg

[Mattie]

ahhh :shock:

might have a bit of a problem getin 2 tha as the engines still in the car! lol

[Plattsy]

i can see that oil filter being a cunt to change and im changin mine this week :(

[j3ned]

lol - takes 5 min

[Lunner]

i can see that oil filter being a c*nt to change and im changin mine this week :(

It is a cunt!

Not usually done up tight, can get to it fro underneath, or you can just about get a hand on from the top o/s

[MatBrown]

williams engine is code - F7R 700

clio 1.8 16v engine code is F7P 722

The ID plate is just to the right of the oil filter - usually caked in shit

But these are easily swapped.



Mat.

[smokey]

Do tell please Matt

PM me if you would rather 8)

[Plattsy]

my mate says you have to take the radiator out to get to the oil filter! is this true? it will be my first service on a f-type engine so im not sure....

[Lunner]

Its bollocks, you can get to it witht eh rad in, its just not very easy, but certainly easier then draining the coolant and removing teh rad

[Plattsy]

Good :)
J3ned did you get my PM about the gearbox?

[MatBrown]

Do tell please Matt

PM me if you would rather 8)

Trade secret. :wink:



Mat.

[VIPERONE]

lol rivet gun.. piece of piss.