R5 GTT Buying Advice

[Zollo]

...Anyone got any?

And no smart arses with, "Yeah, don't get one because they're a pile of old shite", please. :wink:

[Rich]

they like to go rotten underneath and everywhere elso for that matter so the usual renault syndrome!

[Swervin_Mervin]

My advice is "be careful".

:P

[Zollo]

Yeah, that's the plan. But I'm going as the level-headed knowledgable mate, which is a bad idea on both accounts. :P

Still, it it all goes wrong in a couple of months, I can buy it off my mate as a cheap track car :twisted:

[Rich]

boot window surround rot
rear window surround rot
front window major rot
bumper mounts rot
sills and kick plates rot
sunroofs leak (surprise surprise)
heater matrix leakes check it or its a dash out job
check for smoke
clean coolant
any leaks
clutch is an engine out job
battery tray will have rotted away, maybe took the body with it
check subframe
check steering for play and make sure the indicators cancel,if they dont it could of been pranged and the column has bust
door pins wear and the door hits the kick plates
check no leaks on the petty tank
brakes work good

or buy one that is new from the ground up with 71k on the clock and ****ing mint for 3k off my mate!
new engine and new turbo
full silicon hoses
stainless tanks
all new panels
interior all mint
new brakes, shocks, wishbones
and u wont need to do anything with it!

(add me to msn mate if ur interested and i'll put you in touch ;) (tunsgten grey btw)

[Zollo]

If it was me, I'd be getting a bigger loan and, by the sounds of it, buying your mates! But unfortunately my mate wants to spend a grand max, and then tidy it up himself over time. I've tried to explain to him that he'll end up spending more in the long run if he buys a shitter, but he won't have it! :roll:

Cheers for the advice Rich, I shall go armed with the info and try to stop him buying on first sight! I'll let you know if I persuade him to up his limit considerably! Would your mate take any less?

[Rich]

he's spent 10k restoring it mate! he went in with the same thoughts as your mate and he has paid the price heavily!

all i can say is if you get on msn when you can i will put you in touch with the owner so you can talk with him direct, in all honesty though with what he has spent i'd be v.surprised if he took less

also piccys available from him via msn ;)

[Rich]

oh and all parts are genuine renault too

[Zollo]

I'll speak to him tomorrow and see what he says, but I doubt he'll be keen on changing his original plan. I'll PM you my hotmail addy over the weekend if he is interested though :)

[Rich]

few piccys to help change his mind!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/gazr5gtt/front.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/gazr5gtt/side2.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/gazr5gtt/side1.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/gazr5gtt/rear.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/gazr5gtt/inside.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/gazr5gtt/bay.jpg

[big hp]

Thats lovely.

[Rich]

really is a new car, even the inner arches :lol: no expense spared on it!

[Zollo]

Yeah, that looks awesome. Go on HP, you know you want to :wink:

[Rich]

only 2k done since the rebuild too! scot just buy it!

[Scott-16v!]

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[kj16v]

Zollo if that's as good as it sounds, than it's worth every one of those 300,000 pennies!

Personally I think they're actually pretty well rust protected. Though they do have tendency to rust at corners like window frames, and where the door shuts. Hmm just like a Clio then! As a matter of fact just check all the places you would on a Clio!
Body panels are wafer thin so expect a few dings on a car for a grand.

Check the oil and coolant: look for mayo (no seriously!) on the oil cap, and slick or sludge in coolant bottle. Probably more likely to see oil in the water cuz the higher pressure oil leaks into the waterways. Either of these means h/gasket leak, or cracked head. If the engine runs like shite too then could mean cracked liners

With the car running, let it idle for long enough for the fan to come on. Temp gauge shouldn't go much above 2/3. Look out for smoke. White means one of the above problems, blue: knackered turbo, black: running rich.

When driving, the needle should go to the second or third-to-last bar on the gauge. If it goes above, the boost has been upped and if it's on a standard Garret T2 you can almost bet on a new turbo soon. If the boost gauge goes to the end of the gauge get out, its gonna blow!!

Oh and check every one of the ridiculous number of water pipes. Cuz if one of them goes you're in trouble!

Unless your mate doesn't mind spending ALOT of time and a fair amount of money, then I'd say look for one at least £1500
IMHO Your mate should go for one that needs either a bit of mechanical works OR one that needs a bit of bodywork, or else the time and money spent starts to get silly

Oh yeah, one more thing to add to the collective list: The front seats tend to go 'all rocky' and the bolster material falls apart - but you can get new ones.

[Rich]

so as i say go for my mates with everything done to it as he has cared for it like a baby trust me!

[Zollo]

I totally agree with what both of you are saying. We're going to see one in an hour or so, and hopefully I can sway him. But he's bringing the cash with him, so it's doubtful :roll:

I'm gonna check for overheating, oil/water sludge, smoking, knackered transmission, and unmanagable rust in certain places (below the a-pillar, etc). It's got a bit on the tailgate apparently, but a second hand tailgate can (eventually) be sourced. Tatty interiors and bodywork isn't a problem for him, but if it's in a shit state, it will have been neglected the same on the mechanical stuff too.

Ah well, it's not my money :P

[big hp]

Yeah, that looks awesome. Go on HP, you know you want to :wink:


I do like them and have said to myself my next car will be turbo'd. Would only get used at weekends.

Can you send me the full spec please Rich. Am really looking for a H plate grey Escort RS turbo or J plate grey Fiesta RS turbo but might be swayed.

[Jan]

Have you looked at www.rtoc.org ?

Really good gtt website

[Andyvalver]

Peronally as much as i love the 5gtt i wouldnt buy one :shock: The engines are ok if looked after but everything else just seems to fall apart jus like a clio. My mate had a 5gtt a couple of years back but sold it because something broke on it every week :shock: (Not the engine).

Great cars though :P

[Rich]

here you go HP, there is also bits like new screws, caps etc but not gonna bore you with that!

here it is in his own words
H plate tungy grey Ph2 5 gtt

Body work:
New wings
new doors
new tailgate all new seals and rubbers
full respray not a dint anywhere few minor stone chips but the car is to be used !
Engine full build
new pistons
liners
shells
clutch
engine mounts, new everything
new T2 turbo
new rad
new heater matrix
new heater fan
full silicon hose and i mean full
stainless header and swirl pot
kevlar heat shield
plastic battery tray conversion
new engine wiring loom,
new clips etc etc new fogs blah blah new starter
alternator belts the list goes on

New shocks
new springs
new wishbones
new discs
new pads
new calipers
new lines
new master cylinder
new wheel bearings
new bushes arb etc etc
new fuel pump
new filter

Mint interior
all electrics work and wiring uncut
awaiting original head unit
seats recon'd
superb conditon dash
uncut original parcel shelf very
tidy unmarked kick plates new hinges new pins etc etc

To be picky:
boot under the carpet repainted and recoated in clear plastic ( i am taking the piss here ) and where the battery was in the scuttle area painted but you never see it
i was also going to get the chassis painted over xmas to tungy grey and powder coat the subframe but thats a bit mad
71600 miles
just needs a new perc fan as the bearing is getting noisy and ive got one coming which i ordered yesterday

tested until january but no tax

now tell me thats not worth 3k!

[Zollo]

Worth every penny of three grand by the sounds of things. Hope he gets that for it :)

[Gav]

http://www.alpine-renault-gordini.dk/image/r5gtt1.jpg

my advice:
get one
get one
get one
get one
get one
get one
get one
GET ONE!!!!!!!!!

[Zollo]

Have you looked at www.rtoc.org ?

Really good gtt website

Not yet, but I will now. Cheers 8)