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bigjim
23-09-2005, 22:20
had a race against my mates golf gti 16v today, couldnt believe how easily i pulled from him in every gear, onto the d/c and into 3rd then 4th had whipped his ass. he commented on how awesome the willy sounded and that i spat flames . mint.

monza 16v
23-09-2005, 22:26
Presumably you're alking about me ? I didn't race you today and if I did i would have destroyed you as you drove your Dads Isuzu Trooper to work today, complete with Nick Berry casette in the glove box 8)
It's sad you have to lie......

bigjim
23-09-2005, 22:29
no its wasnt u. im not racing you again because the last time a piece of trim flew off your car and nearly cracked my windscreen. u would of though vw would have used something better than double sided sticky tape to keep body mouldings on with :cry: i reckon the isuzu would have your golf anyway thanks to the massive torque advantage. :twisted:

monza 16v
23-09-2005, 22:31
YOu are a compulsive liar, tbqfh. The williams hasn't moved from the garage all week. Your beard is starting to become an embarrassment also, iirc.

bigjim
23-09-2005, 22:32
actually i had the willy out earlier :oops:

Zollo
23-09-2005, 22:41
:shock:

Justin..
24-09-2005, 12:14
er yeah ok then :?

JayR
25-09-2005, 13:52
Wind up maybe!?

Lunner
25-09-2005, 20:16
No, they are shit slow, i had a blast wiht my mate in his, 150bhp apparently, my 110bhp 1.8 8v RSi was pulling on it

J o n
26-09-2005, 08:57
lol, they are pants slow these cars, I have a vid of me, Northy, Mehdi and Wayne absolutely OWNING one! not even worth the petrol these, as soon as you boot it they start going backwards...

monza 16v
30-10-2005, 14:16
Yeah pants slow, good one you clown.
Very similar power/weight to the williams and about a million times better built. Look better, hold value better. Don't rust while-u-wait etc.......I could go on. :D

Zollo
30-10-2005, 14:27
The Golf is 11bhp down and 10kg more, and they're slightly slower mate. Yes, they may be better built, and not rust so bad, but looks is purely personal, so don't even bother with that. Plus.....

THE CLIO HANDLES BETTER :twisted:

Gav
30-10-2005, 14:28
http://pages.zoom.co.uk/visionmaster/images/mk2_GTi.jpg

http://www.verdugo.cl/clasicos/clio1.jpg

williams looks way better!

monza 16v
30-10-2005, 14:47
Thats an 8v.

Zollo
30-10-2005, 14:52
So what?!

monza 16v
30-10-2005, 14:54
There are differences.

monza 16v
30-10-2005, 14:55
I.e (cosmetically) Lower suspension, better wheels, different lights, etc...

Andyvalver
30-10-2005, 15:07
Ive beeten a 16v golf in the valver. There shit off the mark :P

big hp
30-10-2005, 16:19
8v and 16v golfs are dog slow. Simple.

monza 16v
30-10-2005, 16:24
Well if a 16v golf is slow then so is a clio valver.
Same power & weight.
A 16v golf is 960 kg's and 139 bhp. They are not slow.
An 8v golf isn't quick, unless it's a mk1.
Some folk who've posted on this thread are just cocks tbh.

Zollo
30-10-2005, 16:28
A Mk2 Golf 16v does not weigh 960kg.

clowo16v
30-10-2005, 16:29
Never had a problem with Mk2 GTi 16v's the gearing is shit or something my Valver is faster 0-60, 0-100 and top speed.

See ya

Matt

monza 16v
30-10-2005, 16:31
How the **** would you know ?
Twat.

Zollo
30-10-2005, 16:32
Very clever :roll:

monza 16v
30-10-2005, 16:33
Never had a problem with Mk2 GTi 16v's the gearing is shit or something my Valver is faster 0-60, 0-100 and top speed.

See ya

Matt

Yeah your valver is quicker 0-100, how do you work that one out?
I'll give you one thing, its metal - rust time is far quicker than the golf. Hows your rear arches. PMSL.....

clowo16v
30-10-2005, 16:40
Mine are pretty good tbh just a small spot near the bumper.

What the **** you on about with rust anyway, my mate had a Mk2 1.3 Golf it was a right shed it had rust holes in the floor and the front arches had rust holes in them.

Oh and I worked it out by racing a guy at a cruise who thought his GTi 16v was the fastest car ever and beating him from 0-100. Raced loads and they're all shit slow.

See ya

Matt

big hp
30-10-2005, 16:42
People who have replied are cocks?????


My ex who i lived with for 3yrs had a corrado 2.0 16v and a j plate 16v golf. this was while i had 2 valvers and my williams so i think i know what i'm on about. valver would pull on the golf and more so on the corrado where as my williams would quite literally clear off. I know this as I done it on many occasions and drove all the above mentioned cars on a regular basis over 3yrs.

Build quality isn't all that and that shit dash in the golf/rado makes you want to cry.

All IMHO of course.

bigjim
30-10-2005, 18:10
have to agree ive raced my mate who has a golf 16v with magnex and filter and i whipped his sorry ass. they are only fast when u put a vr6 engine in them or a g60. williams is a far superiour car imho.

Andyvalver
30-10-2005, 18:25
My 1.8 is faster than your 1.8 :P

big hp
30-10-2005, 19:04
My 1.8 is faster than your 1.8 :P


I'll go get my dad...... LOL





Oh and my 2.0 is faster than your 1.8 :wink:

Justin..
30-10-2005, 22:53
:shock: what the hell

JayR
31-10-2005, 10:03
Mine are pretty good tbh just a small spot near the bumper.

What the f*ck you on about with rust anyway, my mate had a Mk2 1.3 Golf it was a right shed it had rust holes in the floor and the front arches had rust holes in them.

Oh and I worked it out by racing a guy at a cruise who thought his GTi 16v was the fastest car ever and beating him from 0-100. Raced loads and they're all shit slow.

See ya

Matt

Must agree, my grandad had a 5 door 1.3 from new and it was a rate rust bucket!!!

Annnnd my 95 valver shell has no rust whatsover ;). Gos better than any golf iv raced too including a well modded mk4 1.8t which supposedly has no trouble defeating the newest golfs which are supposedly the quickest ones as standard!? Am i right!? ;)

Sounds like your the only sad twat here who thinks his cars quicker and better than it actually is!!!

J o n
31-10-2005, 14:38
Yeah pants slow, good one you clown.
Very similar power/weight to the williams and about a million times better built. Look better, hold value better. Don't rust while-u-wait etc.......I could go on. :D

erm, yeah keep smoking the crack... you must be on a windup tip, as MK2 golf's can be swapped at Golf dealers for items out of a vending machine... so that tells me there worth 50p tops... or a 'King Size' Mars bar... and yeah, you could go on, but you'd only look even more foolish little boy.

Clip on way of me, Northy and Griff smoking a golf

8)

Link added:

http://media.putfile.com/Golf-MK2-being-smoked

^ to just watch

http://upload3.putfile.com/videos/30307442378.wmv

^ to download

Zollo
31-10-2005, 18:55
Ooooooh, Monza blue, pretty :P

Andyvalver
31-10-2005, 19:12
:lol: Smoked

J o n
31-10-2005, 19:16
incidentally myself and Northy now own this Golf, the lad who raced us after saying the following to Northy at the lights (in a whiney never went to school and sniffed glue instead colloquial accent... or Mancunian as it's better known) decided to get id...

Golf driver: "that a valvoh' muate? i smokes themz all the timez like innit"

Northy: "no it's a Clio Williams you prison educated whelp"

Golf driver "aah i'll smokez dat anywayz innit"

Suffice to say he was gutted after the event, so offered to try and sell his car... we didn't have the cash to buy it, but in the end settled for a swap on a half eaten dairy milk bar (partly melted too, but he didn't know this at the time) and a 3/4 full bottle of sprite from Northy's car... we felt bad tho, so bought him and his missus a Mega Rider for the journey home with the added advantage that he could use it to go sign on in the morning... just another day in the life of a MK2 Golf GTI owner... ;)

bigjim
31-10-2005, 19:43
pmsl at monza blue 16v golf being torn a new asshole by a williams. :lol: cant wait for monza16v to watch that vid, on his dialup connection. :shock:

J o n
31-10-2005, 20:04
correction Jim, owned by 2 Williams and a Clio 1.8 16v (that's standard... yes standard... not even a filter or cat back...) :lol:

was good fun... for all of about 2 seconds, before it became aparent that this Golf was only ever gonna get smoked, still, fair play to the lad, he said he'd smoke us all and had the good grace to give us a flash of the hazards afterwards... would piss me sides if Monza lives up Warrington way and this was him! hehe

bigjim
31-10-2005, 20:23
he stays in edinburgh. im gonna hunt him down :twisted:

Justin..
31-10-2005, 22:01
pmsl


I PREDICT A RIOT :shock:

Zollo
31-10-2005, 22:04
I predict a sudden influx of irrate Mk2 Golf GTi owners club forum members :P

Justin..
31-10-2005, 22:05
PMSL, just watched the vid............... OWNED :lol:

Andyvalver
01-11-2005, 15:41
My 1.8 is faster than your 1.8 :P


I'll go get my dad...... LOL





Oh and my 2.0 is faster than your 1.8 :wink:

:shock: :P

griffidh
01-11-2005, 16:10
That golf did get owned even though my valver is completely standard the only thing that stopped me owning it more were two willys in my way :D

J o n
01-11-2005, 17:32
hey, not my fault bro! northy insisted on backing off and on constantly... just smoke the c*** already i remember thinking! shame we didn't have Sy's camera or Spooge's for that one Wayne, would have got it all in nice high res and the full sequence of Golf battering... oh well, guess i'll have to check the Donny footage to see more MK2's getting owned... oh, track prepared stripped to the teeth ones too.

where's Monza anyway... he's gone awful quiet... bless :lol:

monza 16v
04-11-2005, 23:40
Unlike you losers, I have a girlfriend and mates and yes, a social life, so I'm not always on this forum.
Oh, and i also have a magazine featured car.
Pmsl, away back to waxoyling your rear arches :lol: :wink:

Justin..
04-11-2005, 23:44
put your hang bags away for christ sake :lol:

Andy
05-11-2005, 10:17
pmsl at this thread


have a word mate your cars slow er.... unlucky

Andyvalver
05-11-2005, 15:48
Unlike you losers, I have a girlfriend and mates and yes, a social life, so I'm not always on this forum.
Oh, and i also have a magazine featured car.
Pmsl, away back to waxoyling your rear arches :lol: :wink:


pmsl. People off here have girlfriends mate and go out and get pissed, i mean socialise. Golfs are shit so i dont give a **** if its in a magazine. :lol:

Gav
05-11-2005, 18:45
only mag it was in is the auto trader fella :D

Scott-16v!
05-11-2005, 19:56
only mag it was in is the auto trader fella :D
pmsl!! i really like golf's but this thread is stooooooopid.

monza 16v
06-11-2005, 03:41
only mag it was in is the auto trader fella :D

So not in The Golf+ mag then ?
Pmsl, yous are more blinkered than the cliosport lot.....
Some sound, knowledgable folk on here but alot of sad losers too......
My car has everything, sorted handling (adjustable suspension, thicker anti-roll bars, poly bushes etc) plus full leather, multimedia, sat nav etc. Best of both worlds. and with 150 bhp in a sub-tonne shell it's quick, power to weight ratio is superior to many so called hot hatches. People leave notes on my car asking to buy it, they follow me into petrol stations asking how much I want for it. So i'm happy with what i have, I aknowledge the willy and valvers are good cars, maybe you lot should take off the blinkers, look at the facts and do the same.
Take it easy :D

monza 16v
06-11-2005, 03:45
Heres a few of pics of my golf if anyones interested.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/monza16v/P1010092999.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/monza16v/P1010087999JPG.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/monza16v/P1010080999.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/monza16v/P101006999993.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/monza16v/P6280463.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/monza16v/P1170136.jpg

Gav
06-11-2005, 12:09
i prefer the mk1's.
And we dont have blinkers on but this is a williamsCLIO website, so you cant expect us to praise your motor up like its better than a clio.

Want someone to praise your car until your head it so big you cant fit out the door go to a golf site. Stay here, your car will be slated, and nothing would change on the road neither fella....a clio would K.O you and your luxery german wagon

NickFr
06-11-2005, 12:46
Nice car and in Stunning! condition. However everyone is missing the point a bit....the Golf Gti was bought as a kind of "Designer label"..the build quality was typically germanic, however the principle reason for purchasing the VW was image....a sort of "Yuppiemobil".

The performance of the VW was not that bad but in reality it was a Gti appealing to "grown ups".... even the VR6's figures are very poor, especially when compared to cost. MK1 will always be a legend!

Monza, cheer up, it may not be as quick as the 16v and williams, it is however a well built car.....not however a true Hot Hatch IMHO...Just too refined for my liking :wink:

J o n
06-11-2005, 14:05
PMSL, how old is this kid!?

A) The only magazine that appeared in is scrapyard challenge

B) It weighs more than a ton (the lardy pieces of shite :lol: )

C) It only wishes it had 150bhp and sorted handling!? LOL, by that you mean you dont fall out of the window from body roll? Golf's handle shite, it may now handle as good as a Toyota Avensis because of all the mods, but lets not get silly eh? :wink:

D) Those notes are not asking to buy it, can you not read? They want to "burn" it fella... :roll:

Anyway, it's fun when people like you come on telling us how shit our cars are and how much better their own are... what's more funny are all the petty insults instead of anything actually worth while... but unfortunately their are no facts or figures anywhere that say the MK2 is a better hot hatch than the Willy... only irate little MK2 Golf owners opinions.

Fancy having your car star in a Williams Clio vid? Just think, you could be that Golf getting his arse handed to him... think of the fun :lol:

Slithers
06-11-2005, 14:13
Heres a few of pics of my golf if anyones interested.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/monza16v/P1010092999.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/monza16v/P1010087999JPG.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/monza16v/P1010080999.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/monza16v/P101006999993.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/monza16v/P6280463.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/monza16v/P1170136.jpg

Tidy that, like the colour.

Is that the rallye interior?

Andyvalver
06-11-2005, 14:35
Your car looks nice fella, nice and tidy. But to get back on topic, it still gets whooped by a williams :P Also, what the hell are you doing on this forum? Seems like your just causing shit to me :?

JonnyK
06-11-2005, 14:56
your golf couldnt beat my RT if it tried :lol:

NickFr
06-11-2005, 18:29
C) It only wishes it had 150bhp and sorted handling!? LOL, by that you mean you dont fall out of the window from body roll? Golf's handle shite, it may now handle as good as a Toyota Avensis because of all the mods, but lets not get silly eh?

Jesus, that's just plain cruel.......FPMSL :lol:

Martin
06-11-2005, 19:30
Golf's are slooow..all of them apart from the Dubweiser one maybe lol
150 bhp and sub 1 tonne....sounds similar to my car.
:lol:

bigjim
07-11-2005, 00:49
guys, monza is a mate. ive been in his car, it is not slow, a 16v would not whip his arse, his was rr at 147bhp and weighs about the same as a valver, i used to have a valver, full exhaust,filter de cat etc and his car is as quick i think iirc. anyway ive not raced him in the willy but all this crap about it being slow is quite frankly horse shit. and yes i can confirm it is due to be featured in golf + mag. some people on here need to get real.

Scott-16v!
07-11-2005, 01:11
^^might want to go back and edit your earlier statements mate, i.e. this one vv :lol:


have to agree ive raced my mate who has a golf 16v with magnex and filter and i whipped his sorry ass. they are only fast when u put a vr6 engine in them or a g60. williams is a far superiour car imho.

J o n
07-11-2005, 09:45
but Jim, he's invited himself here to slate the iconic Williams... few home truths were in order... I stand by my Avensis comments :lol:

2 live
07-11-2005, 12:05
Unlike you losers, I have a girlfriend and mates and yes, a social life, so I'm not always on this forum.
Oh, and i also have a magazine featured car.
Pmsl, away back to waxoyling your rear arches :lol: :wink:


lol@ this thread.


yes mate ur car looks very clean, nice colour. theres one round here the same colour too. i like.

BUT......... ur quote lol

i have a mrs, mates, kids and a social life, so am not always n this forum either.

oh and i have a multiple mag featured williams...oh yes.


btw...its even been in a golf mag a couple years ago......oh.ang on..that makes my appearance in a golf mag b4 u...even they know class when they see it lol.

never had any problems with golfs that iv raced apart from twice. one was the twin vr6 engined dubsport thing, the other was a certain mk 1 , green, wide arches, audi quattro lump rear mounted, 4wd, ......yes iv raced em both and lost...but they the only 2 golfs iv lost to. an iv raced fukkin plenty , even in the valver.


sorry ...i made an error......my mates vr6 passed me once on the mway, as i was bouncin off the limiter in 5th...it took him 20 mins to make up the gap id already pulled b4 the superior top end of the v6 came into play tho, any shorter of a journey and hed have bin way behind

NickFr
07-11-2005, 12:06
pmsl at monza blue 16v golf being torn a new asshole by a williams. :lol: cant wait for monza16v to watch that vid, on his dialup connection. :shock:

This sounds Real :oops:

bigjim
07-11-2005, 23:00
i was on the piss take with my earlier comments because i knew he was on reading them. no i havent raced him in the willy (yet) but i have been in it several times and a valver would not easily beat it. fact.

monza 16v
07-11-2005, 23:06
150 bhp and sub 1 tonne....sounds similar to my car.
:lol:

Yes.....But mine's is slow as **** isn't it :roll:
Great logic...

NickFr
08-11-2005, 01:24
C'mon Guys this like.........whose buying the Beers?

http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/uploads/post-771-1129964494.gif

J o n
08-11-2005, 09:32
looking at most places they seem to think the Golf weighs over 1000kg's though and only has 130bhp... :?

either way, valver pace it aint, Williams pace it certainly aint.

NickFr
08-11-2005, 10:41
Yo would have to be smoking this S**T if yo think the Golf is a good as da Williams


http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/uploads/post-771-1128846305.gif

J o n
08-11-2005, 10:54
exactly Nick, I smoke the stuff and even I'm not that delusional! lol

NickFr
08-11-2005, 12:13
I meant this stuff! http://bestsmileys.com/horses1/2.gif

Chris n`nic
08-11-2005, 12:24
Is it really <1 ton with that leather interior?! And hat has it got to give it 150bhp?

Chris

Zollo
08-11-2005, 12:36
This has been going on so long that I don't even know exactly what people's points are, but....

They're definately 139bhp, and they weigh 1010 kilos. So that's only 30 kilos up and 11bhp down on a Williams, which isn't that much. So I can't see there being much in it with a Valver.

J o n
08-11-2005, 12:54
i have them weighing slightly more, but that's here nor there... one thing to also take into consideration is that the Reno's were the only car of their time and generation that could actually hit the limiters in 5th gear because of the relatively short gearing.

Either way, in the vid Wayne's 137bhp completely standard valver with 2 lads in whooped a MK2 GTI golf with a lad and his bird in, would be nice to be able to compare again, but this wont be happening as that car wont be a 1.8 for much longer at all.

bigjim
08-11-2005, 15:52
that golf in that vid had to be a 8v not a 16v because as above a standard 16v golf has 139bhp, monzas was rr at 147 with filter and full magnex. whether u believe the rr figs or not its still roughly 140bhp which is more than a standard valver, weighs roughly the same, so a valver would not blow a 16v golf away as in your vid, hence must of been a 8v. cheers.

Andyvalver
08-11-2005, 15:55
Bring me a stanard 16v golf gti and i will prove you wrong. :twisted:

J o n
08-11-2005, 16:20
that golf in that vid had to be a 8v not a 16v because as above a standard 16v golf has 139bhp, monzas was rr at 147 with filter and full magnex. whether u believe the rr figs or not its still roughly 140bhp which is more than a standard valver, weighs roughly the same, so a valver would not blow a 16v golf away as in your vid, hence must of been a 8v. cheers.

well as a valver weighs 970kg's and the Golf weighs 1020kg's that basically like one car having a passenger and one not doing so... which would be a pretty noticable difference, as 2 lives car with passenger was identical almost to mine, pulling 1 car absolute max, however both on our own and it would just pull constantly in every gear... kinda like Wayne's does. This was a random chance race, but another mate of ours that lives round the corner has a MK2 GTI... it's nothing to shout home about and can't live with a valver... maybe Monza's is a quick one? Either way, I'd love to compare against it and blow it away, as I'd be certain that it would be a very very very one sided race. I'm positive any good condition Williams would hammer one all day long.

Andyvalver
08-11-2005, 16:30
A 16v Golf is slower on paper than a Valver so it pisses people off when you say it can beat a williams which is quicker than a valver.

J o n
08-11-2005, 16:40
Doesn't really matter anyway, i've posted up a vid of 2 Williams and 1 Valver all getting the better of the Golf, i'm yet to see the roles reversed... so ner! :lol:

Martin
08-11-2005, 16:58
150 bhp and sub 1 tonne....sounds similar to my car.
:lol:

Yes.....But mine's is slow as f*ck isn't it :roll:
Great logic...

Did you see the :lol: lol I reckon a 16v Golf with full interior/leather is slow as **** yes. Would struggle to get into the 15s up the 1/4 I reckon.

bigjim
08-11-2005, 17:12
this is just getting stupid. im off to waxoil my rear arches for winter. :wink:

monza 16v
09-11-2005, 23:50
I never once said my golf was quicker than a Williams, or even a valver for that matter so get a grip.
I'm merely saying that my car weighs very similar to a valver/williams and has very similar power, although i imagine the williams will have slightly more torque.
And BIGJIM, it was 148 bhp :x :evil: :wink:

monza 16v
09-11-2005, 23:59
PMSL, how old is this kid!?

A) The only magazine that appeared in is scrapyard challenge

B) It weighs more than a ton (the lardy pieces of shite :lol: )

C) It only wishes it had 150bhp and sorted handling!? LOL, by that you mean you dont fall out of the window from body roll? Golf's handle shite, it may now handle as good as a Toyota Avensis because of all the mods, but lets not get silly eh? :wink:

D) Those notes are not asking to buy it, can you not read? They want to "burn" it fella... :roll:

Anyway, it's fun when people like you come on telling us how shit our cars are and how much better their own are... what's more funny are all the petty insults instead of anything actually worth while... but unfortunately their are no facts or figures anywhere that say the MK2 is a better hot hatch than the Willy... only irate little MK2 Golf owners opinions.

Fancy having your car star in a Williams Clio vid? Just think, you could be that Golf getting his arse handed to him... think of the fun :lol:

Oh, and TheJesus, my car was rolling roaded at 148 bhp (nothing really to be proud of but true nontheless) and yes it has uprated suspension, bushes, ARB's etc and yes it has been magazine featured. BigJim can vouch for all these things. So go **** yourself :)

Gav
10-11-2005, 00:34
dam is this still goin on?

come on guys, just ignore him and he willl go away......mk2 golfs suck arse n any clio can beat it. **** a duck, why go on, as Nick said were beatin a dead horse....leave it!

He knows we will all cain him if he tried to race, so why even argue, and if he wants us to prove that a standard valver/williams is quicker than a mag featured blueberry then fine monza, come to the midlands meet, and us williamsclio lads will piss all over u and whatever german army u wanna bring

Martin
10-11-2005, 03:48
lol some good fishing going on here and monza is biting every time :wink:

J o n
10-11-2005, 09:17
PMSL, how old is this kid!?

A) The only magazine that appeared in is scrapyard challenge

B) It weighs more than a ton (the lardy pieces of shite :lol: )

C) It only wishes it had 150bhp and sorted handling!? LOL, by that you mean you dont fall out of the window from body roll? Golf's handle shite, it may now handle as good as a Toyota Avensis because of all the mods, but lets not get silly eh? :wink:

D) Those notes are not asking to buy it, can you not read? They want to "burn" it fella... :roll:

Anyway, it's fun when people like you come on telling us how shit our cars are and how much better their own are... what's more funny are all the petty insults instead of anything actually worth while... but unfortunately their are no facts or figures anywhere that say the MK2 is a better hot hatch than the Willy... only irate little MK2 Golf owners opinions.

Fancy having your car star in a Williams Clio vid? Just think, you could be that Golf getting his arse handed to him... think of the fun :lol:

Oh, and TheJesus, my car was rolling roaded at 148 bhp (nothing really to be proud of but true nontheless) and yes it has uprated suspension, bushes, ARB's etc and yes it has been magazine featured. BigJim can vouch for all these things. So go f*ck yourself :)

PMSL, i'd be disapointed if my car only made 148bhp at the wheels ;)
My car's been magazine featured as well, big deal, it wasn't in the Top Gear test though where they fire the cars off a cliff... was that your Golf I saw in there?
Uprated suspension, pmsl, I bet those Avensis' and Vectra's are scared now :lol:
So anyway, back on topic, we were talking about how standard Valvers and Williams are much quicker than those German tractors weren't we?

NickFr
10-11-2005, 12:29
Bet mine is faster than yours!!


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J o n
10-11-2005, 13:15
no way Nick, my donkey would smoke your camel! (no pun intended...)

David
10-11-2005, 13:40
Come on all
Golf's are not really my cup of tea but that one does look good IMHO very clean and very smart if we wanted to argue about straigh line speed would should all own quater mile cars ones that cant go round bends.

Think we should all stop with the abuse cause it certainly dosn't look good for any one else who wants to join the club / forum if we all start tearing it out of other cars thinking Williams is the best thing since sliced Bread(well i do) but thats my opion i am certain my nan would say her skoda is the bollocks !!! But thats how it is lol

Dosn't always matter about weight bhp as we all know just look at the diffences between supercars round Top gear test track and 5th gear test track against general cars. Seconds usual but the fun is what it is all about IMO

Eveybody each to there own defend your case
but getting shitty dosn't really get anywhere.

Well theres my thoughts :oops:

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J o n
10-11-2005, 13:49
fair point, but no one was really being insulting before or even after Monza started calling people clown's and cocks etc... :roll:

it's a bit of banter anyway, I'd hope no one actually takes any of this seriously? (apart from Golf being slow, as this is fact :lol: )

Martin
10-11-2005, 14:28
lol

NickFr
10-11-2005, 15:41
Group hug...including Monza....NO tongues or unindentified STIFF Bits

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Andyvalver
10-11-2005, 16:36
http://www.smileys.ws/smls/angry/00000056.gif lol