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J o n
14-09-2005, 12:07
if fuel prices continue to stay or worse... rise, a lot of performance car owners will be forced to sell of go to LPG... anyone know anything about this? I only know a little about them when a lad I worked with had a Volvo T5 on it... it started on petrol, then auto switched to LPG and had a switch to change between the two. It also ran a lot faster on petrol, but that's unimportant.
Swervin_Mervin
14-09-2005, 12:09
Someone on the evo forum has just had their Vento VR6 converted. He likes it so far.

I think you can get a grant/rebate from the gov't for doing it as well.
J o n
14-09-2005, 12:20
rebate!? wow, so taxes do go somewhere other than 1st time buyer shoe bombers property and food tokens!

will have to look into this more seriously i think!
summeh
14-09-2005, 12:27
costs about 1.5k to get fitted i think???

my dad looked into getting it done on his laguna v6, was gonna cost about that much and you'd lose about 5-10% of ure power cuz of the lower octane i think.
kj16v
14-09-2005, 12:50
...and 100% of your boot space to the huge great gas bottle as well innit?
Mark_Ritchspeed
14-09-2005, 14:13
And from what we have seen, dont be surprised when your engine destroys itself very early on in its life.

Of course, of all the failures we have seen not one has been down to the LPG conversion. So how do you explain the pistons/bores and cylinder head that look like they have been pounded with a 12 bore shotgun?

We have replaced a 735i BMW engine, 3.0 Omega engine and a big Rover lump. All the engines could not be repaired as the damage was too great to the heads, bores and pistons and the one thing they all had in common?

LPG conversion. :shock:
J o n
14-09-2005, 14:15
urgh... what causes that Mark?
summeh
14-09-2005, 14:17
urgh... what causes that Mark?

the lpg conversion :roll:
Mark_Ritchspeed
14-09-2005, 14:21
Honestly not sure, but they all had the same type of damage , that you never see on just a worn out engine. Probably something to do with constant mild detonation.

I'm sure it the kits fitted correctly you wont have a problem, but all these cars went to different specialists for the kits between 2-3 years ago and all were damaged in the same way. The timing and injection must be so crucial and if its just a tiny bit out, the engines appear to just get battered to pieces.

As I said, honestly cant say if all the engines had incorrect installations as I dont know that much about LPG conversions. The 1 thing they did all have in common was the fact they had all been converted.
J o n
14-09-2005, 14:28
right, so nothing specific, more human error on the fitting side?

if that's the case fook that, i'll stick with me £1+ bullshit petrol rates... will have to start walking to places now.... *shudders*...
Mattie
14-09-2005, 15:37
ur ment 2 do 10miles per day on petrol 2 keep ur engine in order.....and u also only save aorund £400 a yr on average :shock:

thats pants! u might as well just stick 2 petrol!

the goverment used to give grants 2 people 4 conversions but that stoped last month i think, allthough aparantly there are plans 4 grants of sum kind in the future.
J o n
14-09-2005, 15:59
where you getting these figures from? LPG is half the price and better economy, so savings will be more than £400 mate... well for me anyway.
VIPERONE
14-09-2005, 22:36
jesus i had a LPG car!
full tank £15 300 miles bargain.. only slightly lower performance than petroleum.. tank goes in boot... then teres valves etc and a mod to the throttle body.

only dangers are a rear end shunt.. explosion. i had a switch under the dash with lpg level gauge to switch between petroleum and lpg... could switch any time any speed anywhere. a guy had it done on his 172 to good standards.
Justin..
14-09-2005, 22:55
only dangers are a rear end shunt.. explosion. fook that i want a clio that at least drives after a shunt, not it dragging on the floor behind me lol :shock:
Mattie
14-09-2005, 23:06
where you getting these figures from? LPG is half the price and better economy, so savings will be more than £400 mate... well for me anyway.

me and my m8 got them off a website as he was thinkin of convertin, cant remember the website now but ill try and find out 4 u guys as it was only the other day!

suppose it depends how many miles u do a year as 2 how much money u save though.
POWARTEK
15-09-2005, 01:55
My mate has a VR6 Corrado on LPG, not sure how many miles its been on but the cars got a good 120K on and runs very very well.

Conclusion................get it fitted correctly your laughing. :D
Mark_Ritchspeed
15-09-2005, 09:06
The problem for me is, how do you know its fitted correctly? All cars we had in with knackered engines had their systems installed at various recommended outlets by professional installers.

They did last a good 30-40k miles before any damage was evident.