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scotte666
01-03-2005, 22:08
thinking of getting some new tyres will get the tyre place 2 check condition of mine but no1 seems 2 have a good word 2 say bout the p6000's i have got 185 /55 at the mo i think. i would like to spend no more than £50 a tyre if poss. would it be ok if i left the p6000's on the back surely wouldnt affect tramlining on the back???

KingStromba
01-03-2005, 22:19
You never put new tyres on the front. Always move worn tyres to the front and replace the rears. So if you want rid of the P6000's looks like youll have to take them all off.


You replace the rears and move the rears forward because worn tyres on the back and fresh on the front can cause oversteer problems. Worn front tyres are less likely to catch you out as understeer is inherently easier to control in a slide.

scotte666
01-03-2005, 23:31
what if i buy good part warns i know a place that get v good ones

KingStromba
01-03-2005, 23:45
The general rule is (i think) your most worn tyres go at the front of the car.

Just make sure the rears arnt more worn than the fronts.

And dont mix directional and non-directional tyres. If P6000's are directional, make sure you put directional on the front / back to match.

summeh
02-03-2005, 22:16
p6000's are shite, just replace them all with 195/50/r15's goodyear eagle f1's or bridgestone potenza's.... 30quid a corner (slight more for bridgeston) from mytyres.co.uk ... you won;t regret it either mate ! ;)

big hp
02-03-2005, 22:18
I haven't regretted it 8) 4 Eagle F1's from mytyres £139.60 4 tyres delivered.

summeh
02-03-2005, 22:31
aye mine have now worn in nicely now... handling is superb :) have every confidence to chuck it into corners in the wet, where as before you could feel the back end losing it.

big hp
02-03-2005, 22:33
Mine were only fitted on sat. Only been back and forth to work in a line of traffic. Does feel a more sure footed. I'll try them out this weekend take the back country roads home hehe.

NickFr
02-03-2005, 22:35
Ditto Bridgestone Potenza RE720 195/50/15 Excellent tyre F1's are used by alot of Police Forces on their Volvo T5's, another powerfull frontwheel drive car. Great grip, particularly in the wet!!

scotte666
02-03-2005, 23:49
i know it might cause a debate but dont i need 2 get 185/55 what will the difference be if i go for 195 /50 s??

KingStromba
02-03-2005, 23:53
The correct tyre for the Williams is the 185 55 15 V rated tyre. Originally the Michelin HX, then the Michelin SXGT and now the Michelin Pilot Exalto 2.

Whatever the performance difference (i would only ever get 185's) i personally think the 195's make the car look 'funny' and not sit right.

scotte666
03-03-2005, 00:01
when i got my tracking sorted 2day they quoted me 86 a tyre for the michelins

KingStromba
03-03-2005, 00:11
Thats pretty good for the PE2's. You wont get much better than that

2 live
03-03-2005, 13:01
or go to 195s an get a pair for £70.pe2s

summeh
03-03-2005, 14:33
195/50/15's are more common therefore a lot cheaper.... 80quid for 185 compared to 30quid for 195's.... depends on your preference but i feel that the 195's give better grip, as there is more tyre on the road.

KingStromba
03-03-2005, 14:35
Grip is one component of handling though. Tyre choice is not just about grip.

2 live
03-03-2005, 15:09
but without the tyres grip.........u dont have any handling..........simple as.

KingStromba
03-03-2005, 15:28
Im just saying that a tyre isnt soley about grip, its a package of various factors. As with suspension, people simplify something that is very complex.

If tyre choice was just about grip wed all fit massive 245 wide tyres onto our cars. But we dont. That would be stupid, but it illustrates my point. tyre choice is a compromise. And a wider tyre doesnt necessarily give you better grip, and certainly doesnt automatically mean better handling.