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Craig
08-09-2005, 19:59
Didnt see what it was but probably an R. He was flat out tho!
:)

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~cadams/videos/cliovssaxo.3gp

Scott-16v!
08-09-2005, 20:05
i nearly bought a vtr, went lookin round garages for one, then i saw my valver sat there on the forecourt. the end.

mon
08-09-2005, 20:05
yea :D the saxo crap.. you have to get past as bits fall off them .. mm :lol:

richy
08-09-2005, 20:09
i use to own a saxo vtr thought i could take on the world then i woke up lol he must be a vtr owner has lexus lights, no respectable vts owner would do that

Lunner
08-09-2005, 20:17
The VTS' are pretty good, tastlyfully modded, lowered and then tuned, none of this tacky crap, its usually the lower spec modals that get the bog kits, the folks that buy the VTS actually care about going fast

kj16v
08-09-2005, 20:41
****ing cheap-ass shit-crates. Cramped cabin and mioroscopic pedals. Driven by twats, and VTRs frequently dusted over by my 1.3 Nova!

Saxos are like school on Saturday - no class.

Craig
08-09-2005, 20:43
i guess not many like them then lol!

to be honest a tastfully modded vts is acceptable, but i went to see one once and it was toss! ended up buying a 106 gti instead! MUCH better!

kj16v
08-09-2005, 20:47
I want to use part of that movie as a moving picture. Anyone know how I do it?

Scott-16v!
08-09-2005, 20:55
press print screen at the exact moment you want the pic??

dannyt
08-09-2005, 21:08
nice craig, it shot off towards the end of the rev range, how much quicker than the nana is it?

Enid
08-09-2005, 21:11
I very much dislike saxo's, all of them! :evil:

Martin
08-09-2005, 21:13
LOL class vid.....Owned! The white beasty is a lot faster over 70-80 mph I've watched it drive into the distance quite a few times!

Gav
08-09-2005, 22:52
i cant open it....what formatt is it on?

I only have windows player

Scott-16v!
08-09-2005, 23:06
i cudnt at first, right click, save target as....

TriO`
08-09-2005, 23:31
Its Quicktime Player for me, might play on others....


nice little vid, white beast :twisted:

Gav
08-09-2005, 23:32
nah its a 3gp. file....cant open it

clowo16v
09-09-2005, 00:06
I was going to get a VTR aswell. Saw a stunning one. 03 reg in black, 7000 miles, absolute minter. Owner needed to sell as he was going abroad, £4995 (Bearing in mind this was mid 2004). Took it for a test drive and everything, but decided against it. It was pretty quick, was the 100bhp model instead of the 90bhp one.

I like the looks of them actually. Lowered on a set of nice wheels they look quite good. The VTS is plenty fast enough aswell.

Glad I got the Valver instead though lol.

See ya

Matt

Zollo
09-09-2005, 08:10
Nothing wrong with Saxo's (apart from the cramped pedals), it's just most of the shits that drive them.

skipp123
09-09-2005, 09:41
just to add my 2 penith i have a mk2 saxo vts which iv just sold, however iv slayed many a valver but never came across a williams, dont get me wrong im not slagging off the clios cos im buying a V6 next however its attitudes like most of the ^^^ i love cos when they realise a vts is pretty quick im already gone. heres pics of the beast, makes 148bhp currently stripped out and goes quite nicely too.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/skipp123/CIMG0989.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/skipp123/CIMG0987.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/skipp123/CIMG0985.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/skipp123/CIMG0980.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/skipp123/CIMG0982.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/skipp123/CIMG0981.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/skipp123/CIMG0979.jpg

Zollo
09-09-2005, 09:45
I think I've seen that VTS more times than any other car on this forum :?

Skipp, just incase, you're not one of the 'shits' I was referring to :wink: . Good choice on the next car. 255 version?

skipp123
09-09-2005, 09:49
nagh the mk1 im only a youngen so have to make do with that the mk2s are way outa my bugdet. i wouldnt underestimate some of these saxos as some are running 200bhp+ atw!!! and weigh jack shit, i cant tell you how many people have underestimated my vts is quite funny though everyone has experiances with the vtr and asume the vts wont be much quicker but they are theres loads of differance. i raced a vtr round a privert track errr... and it was soooooo slow have a go with a vts ul be suprised if he can drive lol

Zollo
09-09-2005, 09:54
My sister has a standard 106 GTi and I know exactly how fast they can be :oops: . Nowt wrong with them at all, as I said :D

Craig
09-09-2005, 10:22
yours is a prime example of the types of saxo that are acceptable! tastfully modded! My 106 had v cramped pedals too!

my clio isnt a williams tho, but its over 200bhp and doesnt weigh much :)

btw, to play them you need either nokia media player, quicktime, or realplayer

skipp123
09-09-2005, 10:39
im talking 200bhp at the wheels + !!! u can make them go v.fast car is kinda sold but might be up again v.soon for £4800

Craig
09-09-2005, 10:49
as long as they run quicker than 13.4 1/4 ill accept defeat :D

just messin mate, yeh i go on SSC sometimes, there are a few turbo'd and even more supercharged beasts on there! very underestimated on the roads, especially as half the fukers look standard lol i have mucho respect for the quick saxo's about! :oops:

skipp123
09-09-2005, 11:07
quickest one at the mo runs 12.88 turbod muther!!

Craig
09-09-2005, 11:09
yeh iv just seen the leaderboard. impressive stuff. do u know were hes from cos i alrways end up talking to a youth from york, at york with a black turbo'd saxo!

Craig
09-09-2005, 11:33
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/Somersrallyslag/Top25.jpg

Swervin_Mervin
09-09-2005, 11:54
There's nowt wrong with Saxos. If it wasn't for them being being so chavvish when they took off they'd be classed up with the greats of teh hot hatch world.

They starting to make very good sense as trackday slags as well now that the chavs have moved on to mk2 clios.

TriO`
09-09-2005, 12:00
hehe ^^^ tis true

Craig
09-09-2005, 12:06
craggy took me out in his barely modded vts, and it handled fukin ace, and was quick as fuk too! i was well impressed! still prefer the 106 tho, but the vts is a good car IMO! its just the chavved up lexus lighted vtr boys that ruin it!

skipp123
09-09-2005, 12:10
main reason im selling up is because of the image such a bad name. suprised some twat in hes audi tt convertible this morning he looked pretty pissed off lol, and agreed with the mk2 clio being the next saxo, in my home town we seem to have alot of chaved up new corsas u know the ones black with black rear lights black tints ect and also about 6/7 clios usualy the 1.4 veriant with lexus lights and a bb4 always try and piss me off but whats the point? funniest race i had was {privert track} with a corsa 1.4 old shape followed me for 5 miles i drove really slowly untill the track opened up off the roundabout and floored it down the long straight any way 10 secs later looked in my rear view mirror and saw the biggest ball of smoke, turned round and hed blew hes engine up he just went what the ****s in that mate :P

TriO`
09-09-2005, 12:17
haha gutted :D should have turned round and coasted back past his smoking wreck



dont you just hate those roundabouts on track aswell :P

Gav
09-09-2005, 12:23
there hot little cars......same league as the mk2 clio i think

They shud make a wide V6 version me thinks

skipp123
09-09-2005, 12:32
there is one knocking about with a turbod hybusa engine in the back insane performance figs but ud have to be a class a nutter to even think that up. just hope the bloke comes to pick the car up soon dont know if hes ****ing me about... cant wait to stick the clio v6 in a bush backwards lol, getting some advanced driving lessons for my 21st in the clio to hopefully make sure that doesnt happen

skipp123
09-09-2005, 12:39
saxo 0-60 3.3 530bhp per ton.

http://zcars.org.uk/~zcars.org.uk/public_html/saxo/specifications.htm

Gav
09-09-2005, 12:39
ur only 20 and ur gonna own a v6?
What insurance you with?

skipp123
09-09-2005, 12:40
its £1300 fully comp same as my saxo, theres a guy on cliosport that only pays £890 f.c and hes 21. dunno how it figures as there gp 20d

kj16v
09-09-2005, 12:57
I just don't like them because they're ridiculously cramped (Oh and they're Citroens). The pedals are so close together I can mash all three with my size 12's. Plus my knees are all up in the dash.

They have a reputation for being boy racers cuz only little boys can drive 'em :!:

Gav
09-09-2005, 13:02
what insurance company is that with?

clowo16v
09-09-2005, 13:27
A bloke I know who races at York has a VTS makes 148bhp at the wheels, and with his stripped and mine stripped they're exactly the same everywhere. Both ran 15.0s at 92mph, 0-60 is within 0.02 of each other and on the road we're identical. Only above 115mph I waste him lol but thats to be expected as mine has better gearing.

Good cars though, had loads of tussles with them.

See ya

Matt

VIPERONE
09-09-2005, 16:10
not the greatest of 1/4 mile results for the paxo's.

I have slayed 3 VTS's in my valver.

I have have driving lessons since then so am considerably less enthusiastic :-|

skipp123
09-09-2005, 16:24
12.88 not that impressive?????

Scott-16v!
09-09-2005, 16:25
12.88 not that impressive?????
wheres that from??

Willyhybrid
28-09-2005, 11:15
What air filter/mods are on that willy as I love the noise and sure the thing hasn't got some power!! :shock:

Martin
28-09-2005, 11:20
It's a valver 2.0 on throttle bodies.

Willyhybrid
28-09-2005, 11:22
Ah no wonder then, I thought bloody hell that's quick, are all Willys that quick? So my answer to that would be no then :(

How much quicker than VTS's are most willys with cams, zorst, chip etc?

Martin
28-09-2005, 11:24
Depends on whether you have a good engine or not really...also a 2.0 valver will be quicker than most willys for some reason :?
Anyway heres the nana chasing a vts

http://media.putfile.com/killervsvts

TriO`
28-09-2005, 11:47
lol, next!.... nice one

skipp123
28-09-2005, 11:48
the 12.88 is a turbod vts quickest to date, but there are a fair few running superchargers and nos ect can be quick but iv got rid now for something a bit more special, would u have a clio V6 or the new integra DC5???

VIPERONE
28-09-2005, 13:23
is that the one with the milky bar kid beating an m3 1/4 miling?
there was a turbo one knocking about that could top 160+ but the box couldnt handle the speed and inevitably blew.

Andyvalver
28-09-2005, 13:28
Nice vid, lol@ you laughing after you over took it. Sounds mint too 8) Id only have a vts personally, think there ok but no valver :P

J o n
28-09-2005, 13:40
according to those 1/4 mile figures either Craggy's is a complete freak or half those kids cant drive... but looking at terminals his must be a freak!

i'd have no problem owning a VTS, would keep it standard tho and would certainly get VTR badges for it... maybe even Furio ones pmsl

skipp123
28-09-2005, 14:05
nagh thats not the same one that done the m3 its another, the supercharged vts will run to 150+ with either a vtr box or 1.1 as longer gear ratios, there good cars but always break, if i went supercharger route id get a new civic type r or integra at least u know there built 1/2 decent from the factory

j3ned
28-09-2005, 14:07
There shit

will_s
28-09-2005, 15:41
like this 1.1l badges on my old saxo, i miss it but then jump in my valver
:)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/wi11y/Image248.jpg

vts_saxo
28-09-2005, 17:26
hi guys i have got a vts at the mo and was thinking of changing soon to a williams. Whats the performance difference like compared to the vts??

Just to add to this thread, i cant beleive some people are slagging saxo's for there quality, clio's arent exactley good either. I think the problems with the saxo are the pedals and the image which has been created by little wanks with body kits and lexus lights, just my 2p's worth.

colin

Martin
28-09-2005, 17:30
A good williams will run 15.1/15.0 up the quarter mile..back seats out/spare out/exhaust.. So not a lot faster than a vts although there does seem to be a number of good and bad engine on both cars.. The 2.0 engine in the willy has much better low down torque and much better potential in n/a tuning than the saxo though.

vts_saxo
28-09-2005, 17:51
Thats a little quicker than the vts's mine ran 15.405 and my flat mates ran 15.342, both standard. Can anyone thats gone from a vts to a williams tell me how much the insurance when up,

thanks

colin

richy
28-09-2005, 19:54
i went from a saxo vtr to williams so cant say on performace difference really or insurence, the williams are grp 17 and unless u got some ncd there usualy bit high lol

handling wise i always reckoned the saxo was very good and in the right hands is a capable match for most cars, but i think the williams is more refined and has more ability and feels more stable when pushed hard, the big difference on power wise is low down torque in the williams, iirc u get 80% of torque from 2500rpm upwards, were as the vts/gti engine is more high revving 4-5k+ power iirc, the pedals are alot better in the clio and when i drive a saxo again i dont know how i did for 2.5 years!!

FATBOY
28-09-2005, 20:02
whats the difference between a VTR and a VTS????

big hp
28-09-2005, 20:04
8v - 16v

FATBOY
28-09-2005, 20:04
ok!!! what does VTR and VTS stand for????

richy
28-09-2005, 20:06
VTR is a 1.6 8v engine, the VTS has a 1.6 16v engine, 90/98bhp for vtr's and 120bhp for vts's, although some are reckoned to be 130bhp, only other differences i can think of are VTS has rear seat headrests/no glovebox as there is a airbag there, and electric mirrors, oh later VTS's have 15" alloys, all vtr's had 14" alloys

big hp
28-09-2005, 20:07
Pass.

richy
28-09-2005, 20:10
ok!!! what does VTR and VTS stand for????

VTS suppose to stand for VITESSE in france which means sport or something? vtR is just one letter lower in alphabet, something like that iirc

FATBOY
28-09-2005, 20:10
cheers boys! im in an inquisitve mood tonight!

vts_saxo
28-09-2005, 20:50
There is also a 10 second 0 to 100 difference. Mainly caused by the vts's gear ratio's, and mk 2 vts's are 130bhp. The VTS also has those crappy 16 valve badges 8) .

colin