Normal Clio sills will there fit the Williams Plus more rust issues Help please :(

[andreas395]

Need some new sills and I know there is no luck finding Williams sils so will the normal Clio sills fit how much will there need modifying after taking a screw driver to the bottom of my car it needs quite alot of welding even where the rear beam is bolted on behind the sill :( I'm that close to giving up but decided to take the rear beam away and patch everything up athe front end seems solid it's just tear end is terrible

Any help would be great
I have a real soft spot for my Clio so don't mind putting the time money and effort in to it

[Coops]

they don't directly fit no as they are too long but I think basic shape is about right. its likely if the floor pan and rear beam mount points are going that the chassis rail further back and the inner sills will not be clever either.

are you doing the work yourself or getting a bodyshop involved? as any bodyshop worth their salt should be able to fabricate the lot without too much effort/cost

[andreas395]

Yeah the inner sills needs some work to looking like I'm may need to take to a body shop my mate is a welder but not with cars he has offered to help, its just around where the rear beam bolts it's going ther, this is just in the drivers side let me put my pc on try and upload some pictures really looking shit though :( just about to get her back on the road to

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[andreas395]

Coops so the the clio sills are just longer may have to look in to this, what do you think off the damage worth doing ? dont want to strip her :(

[andreas395]

took the rear bumper of to find more rust all seems to be on the drivers side only the middle and other side are fine still alot of work though :( how much im i looking to get this done dont mind spending about £1500 on her but is that enough or is she a scrapper :cry:

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[Red_Dash]

Sad to see that you've got so much rust there :-(
As I think you realise, it's still savable but the amount of rust around the fuel tank area would make me very worried about what could be found in other areas underneath the car when you start prodding around.

If I was in your position, and with Williams prices the way they are at the moment, I'd buy another car in decent condition, use this car as a donor wherever possible and then strip the donor and sell the parts on.

I'll always save a Williams wherever possible, but in this case I think you may be better off cutting your losses.

[Coops]

as above really mate, the condition of those areas creates questions about the rest of the car and if your doing it to a budget rather than throwing cash at a car you love and want to keep then i'd find another in decent nick and strip her.

its a shame to have to say that, but unfortunately with the budget restriction it could be your only bet

[andreas395]

It's ashame as I spent £700 on the front end about 3 years rods lower arms all bushes disk and pads all round new bonet resprayed engine is sweet as a nut new Cambelt and water pump newly serviced and keeps good oil pressure to
how much do I need to throw at it ?

[talkingfish]

Gosh, you have a lot of work there my friend.... tbh it's a while since I've seen one this far gone.... I share the other's thoughts here... for what you would need to spend - in excess of £2k here at least, you would be better finding another car around that price point and putting the best bits of yours and that one together.... I fear the more you strip your current car, the worse it will get... sorry...:-(

[andreas395]

i should of noticed it 5 years ago when i bought it, its been off the road for nearly 3 years and spent a fortune before i took it off the cambelt and other things have barley seen 6000 miles not sure what to do now was ready to stick it though the mot aswell :( if i buy an other whos going to let me half strip the car before i buy it and check for rust they mostly suffer from this cancer of the car

[Coops]

as said mate, it is repairable, just depends how strict your budget really is, the repair will require a flexible approach to financing it is all as it may go on and on!

[FM696269]

i wouldnt touch that tbh, its simply too far gone and aint safe to be on the road!

get yourself another shell and have fun swapping all the bits over. then sell any left over bits. it should work out cheaper than repairing that anyway

[andreas395]

Yeah I know mate I'm looking about 2 to 3 grand though by the looks of things :( might aswell break it for spares May keep what I want and buy a new one not sure yet don't want go through this again

[FM696269]

why not get a valver shell and do a hybrid/widetrack etc couldpick up a good valver shell for what 200-300? theres one going on clio16v for a few hundred quid

[FM696269]

could be a nice project if you have time to do it

make sure you buy yourself a proper bag of shit to get from A to B as incentive to get it back on the road

[andreas395]

Lol just got off the phone to a mate and we were talking about the same thing may have to have alook around need a nice project :)

[FATBOY]

looks harsh mate.... heres a pic of my rear chassis rail, it was non existent, had to have a whole new section welded in...

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[andreas395]

You had it bad to then mate I may strip the car back to see the damage more as I'm very gutted about all this I have an other car which is nice but older cars have more Appeal to me expesh my Williams :( sad day

[FATBOY]

yeah was really bad on that chassis rail and both arches, the sill only had some mild surface rust on the lip below the drivers door. got away with it i reckon! but i dont think that will be the case on the 3 though! persevere mate, it will all come good in the end :grin:

[andreas395]

I hope your right gonna try and get a shell Williams RSI not bothered as long as its in ok condition and transfer the engine and stuff over gives me a little project

[pvsmark]

What about something like this, although you never know with the rust: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?645328-Clio-MK1-Valver-Shell-Nottigham&highlight=mk1