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Wobba
01-05-2012, 20:01
I wont sell the Willy, as it's mine and an ongoing project...and awesome...but I always liked having to performance cars of different natures so with certain financial benchmarks soon to be reached (I hope) and yet anotehr payrise imminent I need to consider a new toy.

I've always loved my old Scoobies but sadly the image of the Impreza is pretty poor right now. I have been keeping an eye out for an old Legacy RS Quad Cam Turbo...they are old, and retro, but a wolf in sheeps clothing with the proper old school flat 4 burble...rare as **** too.

I also need to consider I have missed out a lot on the RWD cars, so I am also thinking S1 or S2 Elise...base spec to start with till I get used to it and stuff, then maybe go the Honda or VAG 1.8T route with it.

Another option is the Lotus Exige. I love the quasi-racer look of the Mk1 Exige:

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4614/exige1.jpg

It needs to be reliable of course, but the cheaper the base car is the easier time I will have of modding and rebuilding it etc.

I used to want Skylines but tbh massive power isn't the way forward for me just yet. The Noble M12 is just about an option, as is a VXR8 or Monaro or TVR Cerbera. Awesome sounds.

I love this little vid, so may go the Elise or Exige route tbh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nfK41KvzTE

Of course...I could just get anotehr Williams and go Banzai and use it at some kind of Slick 50 events....

Daz.
01-05-2012, 20:10
I plan on an exige next time - series 2 for me though.

Loving the Meg at the moment! :D

Wobba
01-05-2012, 20:21
I plan on an exige next time - series 2 for me though.

Loving the Meg at the moment! :D

I bet, I COULD go Meg route as it is a great car but I don't want to go FWD again just yet. Need to braodedn the horizons. Exige is an awesome car, and I did see an S2 for sale that looked good and possible a good donor car for the Honda Supercharged conversion:


http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3788810.htm


I think the S1 will hold value better though due to the look...time will tell.

16v_russ
01-05-2012, 21:21
I had a S1 Elise for a year, and have been on the owners club for years, so anything you wish to know just ask dude.

The basics are to get a half decent S1 you need at least £7000.

Biggest thing on them is suspension refresh - double wishbone F&R means 16 wishbone bushes and 8 ball joints - plus wishbones can bend if whacked and rear tie rods are renound to bend with hard track work.

Some are still on Red shocks (Koni's) which are rubbish - the later S2's ran Bilsteins and are great for road use - a kit which uses the S2 susension (S1 needs 2 different brakets to fit) can be purchased for about £600 and make a great difference (Thats what mine had)

If the Elise needs a suspension refresh, then you won't get any change out of £2000

Head gaskets are a worry - it is luck of the draw, some go on 25k, my old one was getting close to 100k on the original - if it goes, get it to a specialist who know what they are doing - it will cost about £700 to fix properly and you will never need it done again (Another good trick is to add another £250 on and get a remote thermostat)

There is a lot more but basics are they are not a cheap car to own - most members budget circa £2000 per year for maintinance to keep them tip top.

fantastic fun, i had mine out on track and was brilliant (Search my username on Youtuube for a vid - RussBSE ) and on most normal roads are just epic - but very expensive.

For Honda/VAG conversions, to pay someone to do it will cost you around £10,000, you can DIY it, but the instilation kit is circa £3500, then you need to buy an engine and gearbox on top, plus management and loom, then mapping.

It is much cheaper to buy an already converted one, they usually sell for £10,000-£15,000 depending on spec.

My mate has a Supercharged, cammed Honda S! - ****ing awesome, 330bhp @ the wheels, and is stupid quick - 0-100 is well under 8 seconds, but it is well over 30k's worth of modifications in it and he did half the work himself!

Exiges will be a minimum of 20k - great fun but i can never get over the price of them!

Anything else you wish to know just ask dude, hope that helps a bit

p4cks
01-05-2012, 21:27
If you're thinking about an S1 or S2 Exige, have you considered a VX220 Turbo? Much cheaper to buy, and easily tuned to more BHP, torque and handling than an Exige.

will.i.am.s2
01-05-2012, 22:05
The elise/exige is nice but depends what you are after i guess. Personaly il be going for a E39 M5 or E46 M3 by the end of the summer. The M5 is suprisingly good on petrol for a V8 and devastingly fast :lol:

Depends what you like im a bit biased to bmw..

MG1980
01-05-2012, 22:27
The elise/exige is nice but depends what you are after i guess. Personaly il be going for a E39 M5 or E46 M3 by the end of the summer. The M5 is suprisingly good on petrol for a V8 and devastingly fast :lol:

Depends what you like im a bit biased to bmw..

You can do much worse than an e36 M3 at the moment. Surely the performance bargain of the decade. £4.5k will get you in a tidy Evo with around 80k miles and they have bottomed out, so you Won't lose much. Great performance, easy to mod and a fun way to learn your craft in RWD. As for an e39 M5, my friend drives ones with straight through pipes and carbon airboxes. Devastatingly fast, but a heavy car. M3 makes the far better purchase for me for fun factor! M5 and M3 are both my wingmen for Le Mans as well!

That said, I'd love an S1 Exige! Values are on the up. Sure they will be worth a pretty penny in 10 years!

Daz.
01-05-2012, 22:33
I plan on an exige next time - series 2 for me though.

Loving the Meg at the moment! :D

I bet, I COULD go Meg route as it is a great car but I don't want to go FWD again just yet. Need to braodedn the horizons. Exige is an awesome car, and I did see an S2 for sale that looked good and possible a good donor car for the Honda Supercharged conversion:


http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3788810.htm


I think the S1 will hold value better though due to the look...time will tell.


Yep liking that S2!

To be honest this Megane is wierdly the most un front wheel drive feeling front wheel drive car I've had - feels almost 4wd!

After getting married and the odd debt I couldn't really find anything else within MY budget I wanted. I think the next car I own will be deffo in the Exige style.

Still this isn't exactly a slouch with STG1 and a modest 255 BHP (for now) :D

sideways danny
01-05-2012, 22:46
I would go for the latest Elise/exige you can afford that uses the toyota engine. So much better than the rover.

Worked on a fair few engine conversions too, the Honda K20/24 conversion makes the elise/exige an animal

stevie_b
01-05-2012, 22:47
The elise/exige is nice but depends what you are after i guess. Personaly il be going for a E39 M5 or E46 M3 by the end of the summer. The M5 is suprisingly good on petrol for a V8 and devastingly fast :lol:


Quite different types of cars but all great in their way - the Beemers are probably double the weight of the Lotii, but double the power. The Exige is probably the closest to what you have now Dan, in terms of raw and exciting. I have a mint E39 M5 and I wouldn't say it feels nimble in the same way a Williams does, but it is very quick, comfortable and practical, so if I could only have one car then that is the one I'd keep. I'm a Scooby fan too so see where you are coming from there. All very nice cars mentioned so far so a good dilemma to have :lol:

16v_paddy
02-05-2012, 06:55
I'm saying supercharged Monaro, big fcuk off lairy V8 & RWD :twisted: what more could you possibly want :P

Coops
02-05-2012, 08:59
I agree with paddy lah, I think a beemer would be too reserved for the Wobbanory monster :lol:

Wobba
02-05-2012, 10:37
Thanks for all the replies guys. I may pick your brains further Russ, when the time draws nearer.

I had forgotten about the M3 tbh. I love the old shape, and they are a bargain.

Big ballsy V8's are tempting heh! Trouble is I get enough shit off my neighbours about the noise from the ITB Clio haha. A V8 would give em a heart attack :D

Mr Sideways, the K20/K24 route looks like a nice route to take eventually, so I may give you a call about it :)

I would not go mental at first, but I would be looking to refresh any wayward suspension parts straight away. I would do the work myself. How are the Nitron coilover kits? I LOVE the looks of the lowered Elises :D

16v_russ
02-05-2012, 11:03
nitrons are good, they are the normal route for upgrades, but come in many different specs, contact Randy at Hoffmans mate, he really knows his stuff - in fact a mates Elise is there now having a suspension refresh.

Don't go too low though, as the wheels can catch on the front of the arches, especially if you take the normal uprated route of slightly wider tyres - S1's should have 185/55/15 front and 205/55/16 back, the normal uprade is 195/50/15 front and 225/50/16 at the back (Which is what the Lotus spec Yoko Advans come in, iv had them and they are fantastic - loats of grip, very progressive, and lots of comuunication.)

TooSkive
02-05-2012, 11:45
I would look at the practical option if the Williams is currently your day to day car.

16v_paddy
02-05-2012, 11:56
should have 185/55/15 front and 205/55/16 back, the normal uprade is 195/50/15 front and 225/50/16 at the back (Which is what the Lotus spec Yoko Advans come in, iv had them and they are fantastic - loats of grip, very progressive, and lots of comuunication.)

:roll: Oh FFS! Not this old argument on here again :lol: :lol: :lol:

16v_russ
02-05-2012, 12:06
Flol! :lol:

will.i.am.s2
02-05-2012, 19:16
Yes the e36 m3 is worth a look also. I picked up an absolute mint local one owner with 83k on year before last for £2000 from a car auction, was sold on to a bloke in holland for a handsome profit after id had a bit of fun in it :) Was very fast but i found the amount of replica e36 m3's around a bit annoying. The daddy is the e30 M3 if your pockets are deep but imo you would have to be realy passionate about them to pay the asking prices...Ive always fancied an R32 GT-R / R34 GT-R should imagine they are also worth a look. Or you could go balls out oldskool and get a lotus carlton :twisted:

A&P
02-05-2012, 19:38
200 sx for me mate little money will get 300 bhp and loads of controlable sideways fun. Very cheap to tune and loads of bits out there very reliable aswell but not to everyones taste .

p4cks
02-05-2012, 20:45
£100 precat and then a £300 remap...

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/217409_10150144096740668_502035667_6989610_6080038 _n.jpg

stevie_b
02-05-2012, 21:46
Ah, if we are doing dyno plots, Stock M5:

http://homepage.mac.com/tiagocarvalho/Sites/M5/Headers/dyno1.jpg

Makes a good tow car too, with 360+ lbs/ft torque :lol: Chances are it will be towing something to the club track day at Snett if you fancy test driving one? Otherwise pop up sometime if you are thinking of getting one and you can take it for a spin and I can give you some info on what to look for in a good one. If neighbours are a problem then they are only noisy if you do a muffler delete, otherwise it will be much quieter than your Williams at idle I would think.

Wobba
02-05-2012, 22:48
Oh goody! Dyno graphs :)

Awesome Stevie :P I may take you up on that hoho! Don't let me loose in the GT3, you won't get it back :D

Nissan's are cool too though...oh wow...so much BHP per £ nowadays :driving:

VX220's are a bargain too!

16v_paddy
02-05-2012, 23:45
I think it's safe to say we've got you sold on V8 power :twisted: question is....are you gonna be saying zim zimmer! or g'day sport BWAAAARRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPP!!!! :?:


:P

Jamie.
03-05-2012, 13:32
I would like an Audi s3 or 2.0 tdi with s line spec. The s3's for what I want are a couple of k more than I want to spend. Hoping russ can give me some advice on that front. Looking to spend not much more than 11k tops. As least as possible really.

MG1980
03-05-2012, 14:42
I would like an Audi s3 or 2.0 tdi with s line spec. The s3's for what I want are a couple of k more than I want to spend. Hoping russ can give me some advice on that front. Looking to spend not much more than 11k tops. As least as possible really.

I wouldn't bother with an S3. The chassis and 4WD are so capable, you will never find the limit of its grip. You'll be bored long before you are in a tree!!

They could do with an extra 100BHP! Similar to the R32. A fiend of mine supercharged two, both running over 350BHP, but the car would just grip and grip all day long and he sold it because he found it boring.

will.i.am.s2
03-05-2012, 19:32
E39 M5 has got to be the daddy, its that torque spread. Cant wait to actualy own my own one after getting the s*** scared out of me in the passenger seat of a friends for years :D

From owning one thow the E34 M5 is just as quick in 3.8 guisse with even more responsive handling but they are getting pricey these days..but then they were the last of the 'handbuilt' M's and are very special cars.

hmm

Wobba
08-05-2012, 15:17
Well, I saw a S1 track slag drive past me the other day...it looked awesome. It then got pulled over by unmarked cop car for some reason as I ITB'd past them ;)

Wobba
14-05-2012, 19:00
Looking at RS6 as well. 540bhp V8Twin tubby sounds fun, and I can ferry gran about in it np along with her walking aids etc.

Coops
14-05-2012, 19:18
i'm gonna buy a big gay ford barge i reckon that i can tow stuff with :-)

Wobba
14-05-2012, 19:35
XR4i ftl

Wobba
14-05-2012, 19:36
I've always had a soft spot for BMW's though, lowered with BBS alloys.

Might just get an old M3 and play with it/pimp it up.

Coops
14-05-2012, 20:20
think am gonna rock an ST TDCi on about a 06 plate, thats the plan! mates got an ifor as well i can borrow when i need it, tow the clio about :-)

Red_Dash
14-05-2012, 21:16
I've got a Titanium X Mondeo on an 05 plate which has the same 2.2 TDCi engine in as the ST TDCI. Brilliant car. I've covered nearly 90,000 miles in it, does 53MPG on average and has been really reliable. The torque is great, it has 155PS as standard but I'm going to get mine remapped in the future to ~190PS. However I did have to get a new set of injectors this year which set me back about £800 - ouch! :shock:
When I change, then I'll get a BMW 335d because I want immense diesel power and, now that I'm an old man, I fancy an auto too :D

If I was buying another plaything then I'd be getting a 5 GT Turbo or even a Fiat Coupe 20V turbo 8)

Before all those though I want to get a Willy 3 (rust and all :wink:)

Coops
14-05-2012, 21:46
i've heard nowt but goodness about that engine thus far, they seem to grow legs at about 100k as well, so all coming into season now :-)

i have my eye on a couple, ones other side of derby from me and its blufinned to about 200bhp and muchos torque :-)

stevie_b
15-05-2012, 08:15
Looking at RS6 as well. 540bhp V8Twin tubby sounds fun, and I can ferry gran about in it np along with her walking aids etc.

I was pondering these for a while but found that you can't tow with them, which for me was enough to knock it off the list and I got the M5 instead. If you have longer-term plans to tow the Willy to tracks, etc. then you might need to take that into consideration, otherwise the Avant will cover pretty much anything you could ever need in a car!

Wobba
21-06-2012, 11:04
I am swaying toward the M5 E39. Sadly, I think the Lotus is a no go with recent happenings, as I need to be able to get my old granny in the car and get her from A to B. I can do this with the Clio for now but I think I will be putting the Clio through some extreme changes soon, which will make it rather inhospitable.

The tow car factor may come in to play as well!

If I come to Snetterton I might take you up on that offer Stevie :D Thanks!


Ah, if we are doing dyno plots, Stock M5:

http://homepage.mac.com/tiagocarvalho/Sites/M5/Headers/dyno1.jpg

Makes a good tow car too, with 360+ lbs/ft torque :lol: Chances are it will be towing something to the club track day at Snett if you fancy test driving one? Otherwise pop up sometime if you are thinking of getting one and you can take it for a spin and I can give you some info on what to look for in a good one. If neighbours are a problem then they are only noisy if you do a muffler delete, otherwise it will be much quieter than your Williams at idle I would think.

stevie_b
25-06-2012, 20:21
I am swaying toward the M5 E39.

Just got back from a trip around Europe. 6 hour+ stints at the wheel with no real fatigue - felt like I could carry on driving all day if I had to. 1500+ miles in a week. Umpteen laps of the 'Ring and hitting 160mph on the Autobahns. Great, great cars. Get one before all the good ones fall into the hands of collectors - the rougher ones are cheap but costly to put right.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/2stis/m5/m5_nr.jpg

sideways danny
25-06-2012, 20:57
Buy my 850 T5 and fix it up for the MOT. I've replaced it so it's got to go now

Wobba
29-06-2012, 21:24
I didn't know you had a T5 Dan?

Stevie dude....that is fantastic.

I NEED this sound in my life: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_uEnE1IRTI

:p

Justin..
01-07-2012, 00:32
Do it!

Wobba
02-07-2012, 19:19
Just got back from a trip around Europe. 6 hour+ stints at the wheel with no real fatigue - felt like I could carry on driving all day if I had to. 1500+ miles in a week. Umpteen laps of the 'Ring and hitting 160mph on the Autobahns. Great, great cars. Get one before all the good ones fall into the hands of collectors - the rougher ones are cheap but costly to put right.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/2stis/m5/m5_nr.jpg

What colour is that Stevie?

zmaster2k
02-07-2012, 19:58
2 best mates of mine swear by these!

Both have just sold.... one sold for a new M5 e60 the other sold for a vxr8...

Gotta be honest id prefer the VXR8.. stunning power delivery!...not that the m5 isnt... just prefer VXR8

Wobba
02-07-2012, 21:18
But they're Vauxhalls...

Wobba
02-07-2012, 21:29
I get dis: www.youtube.com/watch?v=clJL0WJXfcg

zmaster2k
03-07-2012, 10:24
nowt wrong with a vauxhall!

add a walkinshaw exhaust too...

listen to this at low revs... pops and bangs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOgffxRs_B8

zmaster2k
03-07-2012, 10:27
always this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-VAUXHALL-MONARO-5-7-V8-2DR-34-700-BHP-VAUXHALL-MAGAZINE-FEATURE-CAR-34-/150831375415?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item231e402437#ht_1154wt_1154

Coops
03-07-2012, 10:52
it'd do I guess

anyway its not a vauxhall.......its a holden ;-) rofl!

p4cks
03-07-2012, 19:10
Am selling my Z4 Coupe if you're interested. Cheapest in the country too :)

stevie_b
10-07-2012, 23:29
What colour is that Stevie?

The colour is called Le Mans Blue. It's a not too different to Williams blue in some ways, but it seems to have more of a 'flip' effect whereby it looks a very dark blue out of direct sunlight but then looks a much lighter blue when the sun falls on it:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/2stis/m5/m5_ring2.jpg

There is also a blue called Avus Blue, which is very slightly darker and looks very nice too. Other colours I like are Silverstone blue, which is a very light, almost silver colour. Carbon black seems popular but doesn't do much for me, so when I was looking I had a preference for Le Mans Blue or Silverstone but having spent a while looking at many examples I decided I would probably accept any colour if the condition was good, but in the end it was a Le Mans Blue car I managed to find with a condition up to my standard and they do seem to be a bit more plentiful in that colour than the others.

Wobba
11-07-2012, 22:59
I love the LMB colour. Carbon black has a nice flip effect too. I might go see a car localish to me with CB, has 157k on miles. I will change the exhaust though, I want V8 noises.

Looks awesome mate. I think it faster n clio? Clio is more mental though :D

stevie_b
13-07-2012, 08:59
Looks awesome mate. I think it faster n clio?

I'm not sure, I've yet to run the data logger on it so can only rely on lap times and 'seat of the pants' feel. It's way faster than a standard Clio of course, but something like yours I am not so sure. It is at its most impressive at higher speeds - it still pulls like a train at 100+! The suspension is very good at dealing with whatever comes its way and its not so low that you have to worry about it grounding out like I have on the 'Ring in other cars. It was carrying 140+ up to the crest at Schwedenkreuz, similar down the Foxhole and faster than I have ever been before on the drag up to Kesselchen. It felt completely stable at those speeds and inspires confidence whereas I found in the GT3 up Kesselchen it started to feel nervous and I ended up backing off for safety when the car had more to give (ran out of bottle - I'm sure the car could do it!)

Wobba
31-08-2012, 20:30
I'm not sure, I've yet to run the data logger on it so can only rely on lap times and 'seat of the pants' feel. It's way faster than a standard Clio of course, but something like yours I am not so sure. It is at its most impressive at higher speeds - it still pulls like a train at 100+! The suspension is very good at dealing with whatever comes its way and its not so low that you have to worry about it grounding out like I have on the 'Ring in other cars. It was carrying 140+ up to the crest at Schwedenkreuz, similar down the Foxhole and faster than I have ever been before on the drag up to Kesselchen. It felt completely stable at those speeds and inspires confidence whereas I found in the GT3 up Kesselchen it started to feel nervous and I ended up backing off for safety when the car had more to give (ran out of bottle - I'm sure the car could do it!)

Yea, I see the bhp/ton is about the same as my Williams currently. I have researched modding the M5 and it is a far costlier process than the Willy, however I wouldn't want to go mad with the M5 anyway as it would be a shame to rip such a nice car to bits really. I am looking at buying one in the next month or two. I would love to see one properly first. All the people I have chatted too say it is the best all round car they have ever owned and bloody quick! I would probably only free up the V8 noise and maaaaaybe play with suspension a tad, but that's it. I'd use it for the comfy days out and moving gran about, and go balls out track car with the Williams.

After two or three years I would look at maybe going a bit more mad and putting it in the stable with the Clio and getting something more 'sensible' again hehe.

I like the Carbon Black tbh:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w102/barneywobba/BMW%20M5%20E39/M5motorsport.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w102/barneywobba/BMW%20M5%20E39/M5motorsport2.jpg

stevie_b
01-09-2012, 07:43
Guy Ritchie's old carbon black one is up for sale on Pistonheads at the moment. That one looks a beaut - low mileage and a mega spec list. There aren't too many options you need on this car, but that one really looks like it has got the lot! Split fold seats do come in handy if you are using it for everyday use, but they are pretty rare on M5s, so if you think you need them check that the car has them fitted as they were not standard.

Wobba
01-09-2012, 10:45
Guy Ritchie's old carbon black one is up for sale on Pistonheads at the moment. That one looks a beaut - low mileage and a mega spec list. There aren't too many options you need on this car, but that one really looks like it has got the lot! Split fold seats do come in handy if you are using it for everyday use, but they are pretty rare on M5s, so if you think you need them check that the car has them fitted as they were not standard.

Yea, I saw that one, looks really nice.

u33db
05-09-2012, 12:35
I've got a Titanium X Mondeo on an 05 plate which has the same 2.2 TDCi engine in as the ST TDCI. Brilliant car. I've covered nearly 90,000 miles in it, does 53MPG on average and has been really reliable. The torque is great, it has 155PS as standard but I'm going to get mine remapped in the future to ~190PS. However I did have to get a new set of injectors this year which set me back about £800 - ouch! :shock:
When I change, then I'll get a BMW 335d because I want immense diesel power and, now that I'm an old man, I fancy an auto too :D

If I was buying another plaything then I'd be getting a 5 GT Turbo or even a Fiat Coupe 20V turbo 8)

Before all those though I want to get a Willy 3 (rust and all :wink:)

I had the Titanium X as well - 06 model with the same body kit as the facelift ST's.

Didn't do much to it - just decatted and a tuning box but agree it was fairly quick.

I traded it in and ended up with a Corsa before getting a 2.0 TDCI 130 - i did plenty to that though - decatted, tuning boxed, airtec IC, forge hoses and lowered on 55mm springs.

I loved the 2.2 but if anything i found the 2.0 better - as quick once modded but since it was a "base spec" zetec it was a bit of a sleeper, especially on 16s.

Shit brakes on all models though!!!

I remember stamping on the anchors at 140ish and not much happening so if you want a Mondeo budget for Focus ST calipers or prepare to die.

I'm now driving about in a mk6 Fiesta Zetec S btw - 100bhp is what you all need...honest!!

:)

Wobba
14-09-2012, 18:54
I just read an old review from EVO mag about best car for 20k in 2005. M5 E39 won, vs some really nice cars.

Justin has a e39 in white. He says no to the carbon black ones, but I like the deep blue hidden in them. Le Mans Blue is good too. I would be tempted to be utterly pimp/gangsta though and stick split rims on in gold and silver hehe and lower it too :p

I am chatting to some guys over on M5board about headwork and high compression and cams etc. Tbh though I reckon it will cost a joke amount, probably be cheaper to get a WRX and mod it.

I will be changing or chopping up the OEM exhaust though, standard is too quiet and I have decided I want to annoy some of the neighbours now.

Wobba
14-09-2012, 19:00
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w102/barneywobba/5630503932_a788f62fc1_b.jpg

noes?

16v_paddy
14-09-2012, 19:05
Nope [-( steering wheel is on the wrong side :-P

Wobba
26-10-2012, 20:18
Nope [-( steering wheel is on the wrong side :-P

Hush you, Vauxhall traitor!

I am still waiting for certain stars to align in the sky before I proceed with any purchases, not long now though! The M5 E39 is still at the top but I am getting the itch to tinker again, been looking at 197's as they are dropping in price. The criticism they had was for the delivery of power, which to me is irrelevant as I would look to turbo or S/C a 197 anyway...I am starting to consider buying a high mile 197 and having the engine rebuilt with low comp forged gear and Supercharging it...but I am concerned another high modded car will just be more of the same FWD stuff. So, what next? Considering R33 GTR's too.

Not going to spend as much as 20k now...too many bargains at the 10k and lower mark and I might buy another house as well so it be daft to go too mad on 911 turbo's. Everyone at work has them already anyway :(

stevie_b
29-11-2012, 14:39
This one has just come up for sale and looks pretty good for the money:

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/m5/immaculate-facelift-m5-in-le-mans-blue-silverstone-leather/939764

I have seen some of KDS's work and it is always good so it should look pretty much stunning in the flesh.

Mikeb185
29-11-2012, 15:11
Get a noble m12, always wanted 1 :)

Wobba
29-11-2012, 17:17
I would but prices have shot up, as have S1 Exiges.

16v_paddy
29-11-2012, 18:52
7 month old thread and still no M5? [-X hurry the fcuk up

Wobba
30-11-2012, 00:18
Blame the ****ing lame ass solicitors that lose paperwork, forget to send me shit and let people take 2 months holidays!!!!

stevie_b
30-11-2012, 10:58
Have they bought up all the good ones then? :winkey: