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bigjim
16-08-2005, 21:23
SHOULD BE ORANGE SHOULDNT IT? DIFFICULT TO TELL THROUGH BOTTLE BUT IM SURE MINES IS A BIT BROWNY IN COLOUR, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

jill
16-08-2005, 21:25
Mine used to be brown, but now it's bright green (Thanks to Lunner) 8)

Christian
16-08-2005, 21:28
It could be picking up rust or crap or something on its route? It might be worth flushing the system and then seeing if it happens again??

ps I'm no expert :wink:

Lunner
16-08-2005, 21:31
mine was a dark blacky colour, suspected head gasket going, so flushed it and replaced it and the ****ing stuff i put in was comma xtreme, and that started off as a horrible dark colour

KingStromba
16-08-2005, 21:55
Coolant is blue or green usually, depending on where you buy it.

If its brown it means its full of rust and isnt cooling your engine properly because the aditives have broken down and rust saturated water isnt the best collant. Bye bye head gasket.


:P

Jan
16-08-2005, 22:07
hmmm - i sense a coolant flush coming on this weekend! :oops:

Lunner
16-08-2005, 22:22
30 minute job at most, just use plenty of water and flush it all through till it runs clear, what i did was fill it up with normal water a few times, run the engine for a minute or so, drain and refil etc etc, cleans everything then

Jan
16-08-2005, 22:27
what mixture should i use when i refill the system?

Lunner
16-08-2005, 22:42
What ever the coolant recomends, i used a 50/50 mix, seems to be keeping the temps down better then my 30/70 mix i used last time

TriO`
16-08-2005, 22:58
30 minute job at most

I had to remove the front bumper and the radiator's plastic bit on my valver just to get the bottom hose off :( It was impossible to reach down and get a proper grip on the hose clip from the top without mangling my hands...

Damn big hands! (I think we've had this big hand convo before.)

anyhow, it still wasnt too hard.

After fitting a brand new header tank and fully flushing, my water is now a lovely green instead of the shitty brown it's been for ages

richy
16-08-2005, 23:00
my coolant is green lol think its been changed twice this year already! 'borrowed from work' lol

Lunner
16-08-2005, 23:01
not too bad on a valver, i ended up jacking up the front end and getting to it from underneath

Purple
17-08-2005, 00:47
Can someone list, in a few simple steps, the easiest way to flush the coolant? Thanks.

Winston
17-08-2005, 01:32
Brown :oops:

Rajk
17-08-2005, 02:06
Can someone list, in a few simple steps, the easiest way to flush the coolant? Thanks.

What you do is take off the expansion tank, you will see there is two hoses at the bottom of it, stick a hose with running water in one of them until the water from the other hose comes out clear, then do the other hose until the water comes out clear again, then remove the bottom rad hose and drain the water from the system. Then re-attach the bottom hose. Then put the expansion tank back on with hoses and fill up the bottle, until it is between mini and maxi, remove the bleed screw on the RAD, and until the coolant comes out, you may have to add more coolant at this stage, when the flow is constant from the bleed screw hole, put the bleed screw back, being careful not to tear the rubber grommit on the screw until tight. top up the expansion tank to the mini and maxi level. Start the car with the cap off the bottle keep the revs at 1.5k and wait till the fan kicks in, your system should be cleaner and air free.

Rajk
17-08-2005, 02:10
while you have the expansion tank off try and give it a good clean too, I have heard you use wheel cleaner and a flexible brush to get off the brown crap, or buy a new one from reno they are 30 odd quid.
You may have to warm the car up a bit to get out all the rust from the system, just when the oil starts to read on the oil guage is warm enough or you will scald yourself if the water/coolant is too hot.

clowo16v
17-08-2005, 13:02
I just stuck some bleach/water in a 50/50 mix, and a handful of pebbles in my expansion tank, shook it about for 5 mins, poured it all out and its clean as a whistle.

See ya

Matt

2 live
17-08-2005, 13:35
denture tablets


apparently

KingStromba
17-08-2005, 13:35
Ordering a new one from reno works well too.

Swervin_Mervin
17-08-2005, 13:40
^^Indeed it does! Especially when you don't get charged for it.

Jan
17-08-2005, 16:35
Off to do this now 8)

Lunner
17-08-2005, 18:31
Ordering a new one from reno works well too.

I did that :oops:

richy
17-08-2005, 18:35
i had to get a new one lol mine burst and sprayed the car in green sticky coolant!! :lol:

edde
17-08-2005, 19:36
Just a waring from someone who's tried

DON'T EVER DRINK IT. Its nasty tasting plus got warning of iritant and death all over the bottle.

bigjim
17-08-2005, 21:34
:roll: eh yeah thanks for that. :shock:

Rajk
17-08-2005, 23:59
you can buy the green stuff from GSF and its cheaper than RENO and its RENO's own stuff, work that out?

MatBrown
18-08-2005, 16:43
It's on special at Reno at the mo, you can get 25L for about £25.



Mat.

katbloke
18-08-2005, 19:02
Gotta ask though guys you say about buying pre mixed coolant whats wrong with the old way of say a couple of pints of anti freeze then fill up with water same principle and i would say cheaper. Im only asking coz im having anew radiator fitted this saturday.

Lunner
18-08-2005, 19:09
Personalyl i prefer to use the stuff you mix up, you can make it more concentrated for the mk1's that tend to run hotter than the mk2's, it is also cheaper, £15 for 5 ltrs wihich at a 1:1 mix makes 10 ltrs

katbloke
19-08-2005, 15:39
Also how easy is bleed screw on rad to get to never looked for it

clowo16v
19-08-2005, 15:46
It's top left of the rad (passenger side). Very easy to get to, just dont wind it too tight.

See ya

Matt

Andyvalver
19-08-2005, 15:51
Can you get some kind of coolant flush. If i clean mine out i would like to put something through it like that to get the bits what are stuck inside.

katbloke
19-08-2005, 16:09
It's top left of the rad (passenger side). Very easy to get to, just dont wind it too tight.

See ya

Matt

Thanks Matt

Mooseman
20-08-2005, 17:56
Just finished doing this on 0062 and filled it with some MObile 1 pink coolant. Most people seem to use blue / green stuff - is this ok?

Cheers

FATBOY
20-08-2005, 18:01
erm all i know is that your meant to use class D coolant??? thats what the sticker says on the top of my coolant header tank

Jan
21-08-2005, 00:52
hmm - in the haynes it says class C... so what is it? is the pink stuff ok?! :?

BRUN
21-08-2005, 01:34
class c has been replaced by d i think

FATBOY
21-08-2005, 01:56
**** it lads!!! im gonna piss in my tank!!! see what it does!!!

Mooseman
22-08-2005, 13:21
just found out that pink coolant is no different than blue or green, its just for girly drivers :lol:

Jan
22-08-2005, 13:23
:roll:

pick coolant or not - I'll see you on the track to settle this one :twisted:

Mooseman
22-08-2005, 13:28
:roll:

pick coolant or not - I'll see you on the track to settle this one :twisted:

so you are letting me at 0062 full beans .... interesting 8)

and you still have girly coolant :lol:

mon
04-09-2005, 21:23
can i not take the hose off near the bleed screw instead of the bottom hose it is easyer to get at??

Jan
05-09-2005, 10:13
you need to remove the bottom hose to flush everything from the rad, but it's a bit of a bitch to get back on!

i removed the one below the bleed screw easily and then ran the hose pipe through the rad to flush everything out :)

mon
05-09-2005, 15:06
so i have to remove the bottom hose.. so can not use the one near the bleed screw instead?

Jan
05-09-2005, 15:18
yea, you need to remove the bottom one to drain the rad

if possible remove the one near the bleed screw too and flush the rad with a hose pipe for a thorough clean 8)

mon
08-09-2005, 19:57
[quote]while you have the expansion tank off try and give it a good clean too, I have heard you use wheel cleaner and a flexible brush to get off the brown crap, or buy a new one from reno they are 30 odd quid.
You may have to warm the car up a bit to get out all the rust from the system, just when the oil starts to read on the oil guage is warm enough or you will scald yourself if the water/coolant is too hot.


this could crack the block if you flush after that with nice cold water :shock:

mon
08-09-2005, 20:00
Just finished doing this on 0062 and filled it with some MObile 1 pink coolant. Most people seem to use blue / green stuff - is this ok?

Cheers





mooseman were did you buy this from???

Jan
09-09-2005, 12:59
that's me - i got the mobile 1 stuff from halfords and it's pink :oops:

seems fine though

mon
09-09-2005, 18:47
thats for differant engines it is oap 5 year stuff yes? red yes?

mon
09-09-2005, 22:11
comma extreme green is this ok coolant?

mon
09-09-2005, 22:47
or this

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m1b0s114p1444&mode=print




COMMA Xstream Red

mon
10-09-2005, 21:51
got rid of coma extreme green (due to being wrong coolant and i got my money back- WAS NOT GREEN) and put in gen stuff fron gsf type d got it for £12 +vat for 5L i got 2 .. reno qouted me £24+vat for 5L ..

this time i did it form bottom hose had to take bumper off THAT BOTTOM CLIP IS A T**T TO GET OFF AND ON even with bumper off

COMMA EXTREME GREEN COOLANT/ANTIFREEZE
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/NMUN/before.jpg

GENUINE RENO TYPE D COOLANT PREMIXED (PUT STRAGHT IN- NO WATER ALLOWED) ...THIS IS GREEN I TOLD THE SHOP KEEPER..
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/NMUN/after.jpg

Justin..
10-09-2005, 22:43
my coolant is red :?

mon
10-09-2005, 22:48
it should be that color and nothing else -- trust me

just done 2 time this week and due to the wrong gear ( got money back) and got the gen reno coolant..

and none of this mixing with water crap it is premixed.. water mix is a no no

Scott-16v!
10-09-2005, 22:48
mines brown lol :oops: :lol:

Justin..
10-09-2005, 22:52
mines brown lol :oops: :lol:

lol :lol:

Justin..
10-09-2005, 22:53
it should be that color and nothing else -- trust me

just done 2 time this week and due to the wrong gear ( got money back) and got the gen reno coolant..

and none of this mixing with water crap it is premixed.. water mix is a no no

right then might have to invest in some radioactive coolant

mon
10-09-2005, 22:59
:lol:

get it from here there mit be a shop near you also you can download the catalog or get one sent you

http://www.gsfcarparts.com/

TYPE D RENO COOLANT IT IS SAME GEAR IN SAME CONTAINER

5LT

£12 + VAT.. IT IS 24+VAT AT RENO

AND GET 2 BECAUSE YOU NEED 7 LT

I HAVE ONLY GOT 6 1/2 IN DUE TO WATER STILL IN SYSTEM BUT IT IS BLEED WELL AND WAITING TILL TOMORROW TO SEE NOW MUTCH GONE DOWN.. ONLY DONE IT WELL DUE TO FLUSHED IT THROUGHT THE BOTTOM HOSE A T**T TO DO

white16valver
08-01-2008, 14:37
Soooooo...

*thread from the dead alert* lol :lol:

Is it definitely luminous green Type D coolant that I want for a coolant change?

Not the Type C that is in the proper Manual (http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25066) or the Haynes manual, mentioned above?

I can't find it on GSF :( so prices from Renault or recommendations of where else to go would be much appreciated :)

Fank yooou!

Lunner
08-01-2008, 14:48
GSF do it, in 5ltr ready mixed tubs with teh renault name on, cheaper than renault.....go to your local GSF

Lunner
08-01-2008, 14:49
Personally i wouldn't use that stuff as its a rip off, buy decent concentrate from Halfords or any motor factors and dilute as required, i usually ignore the instructions and do it 50/50.....i believe this is what ChrisH recommends too

titcharoony
08-01-2008, 14:59
i second that gunner. always done that with no probs

Lunner
08-01-2008, 15:03
i second that gunner. always done that with no probs

Gunner??? Lunner lol.....G isn't even near the L key :roll:

titcharoony
08-01-2008, 15:07
i 2nd that too. :S

white16valver
08-01-2008, 16:06
LOL

oops ;)

This concentrate from Halfords - are there different types?

Will getting the 'wrong' type damage anything?

I can't see why it would but different formulations and all that...

Lunner
08-01-2008, 16:11
i believe there is one type that can't be used with anything else, read the bottle and you'll be fine

richy
08-01-2008, 19:29
use the TYPE D coolant (bright green), reno changed from TYPE C as it was causing a few problems years ago iirc and it dont need to be diluted

drsmith1979
08-01-2008, 20:47
I got some type D renault stuff from a renault contact for £10 for 5 litres i think... will be doing the coolant top swap soon..

one thing i would like to note though, coming from a BMW background where you have to seriously bleed the system with the engine running to get rid of airlocks etc... it just seems a bit bizzare that to bleed it, all you do is open the bleed screw and let it piss out until constant without the engine running..... how does that purge the whole system? surely there would be air bubbles after the thermostat? as it wont be open with it being cold?

can someone explain please?

richy
08-01-2008, 20:50
there was a set procedure for bleeding the system on the 16v/williams, i will have a look at work tomorro if i get the chance!

but yeah 1 bleed screw on the rad lol

drsmith1979
08-01-2008, 20:52
just sounds nuts and a bit simple really... it was like an army insurgency into a foreign country to bleed a BMW!

cheers rich appreciate it

richy
08-01-2008, 20:55
np, ive done a few of the older 5 series engine's years ago and trying to bleed them was a nightmare! lol

MatBrown
08-01-2008, 20:59
I got some type D renault stuff from a renault contact for £10 for 5 litres i think... will be doing the coolant top swap soon..

one thing i would like to note though, coming from a BMW background where you have to seriously bleed the system with the engine running to get rid of airlocks etc... it just seems a bit bizzare that to bleed it, all you do is open the bleed screw and let it piss out until constant without the engine running..... how does that purge the whole system? surely there would be air bubbles after the thermostat? as it wont be open with it being cold?

can someone explain please?

You have to run it up to temp with the cap off, it's a circulating system so any air left is expelled through this.


Mat.

drsmith1979
08-01-2008, 21:03
ahhh ok, so the bleed screw is merely a crude way of getting rid of most of it then?

BRUN
08-01-2008, 21:08
bleed it with it running, and up to temp as mentioned, as unless its up to temp the stat wont have opened and the air wont have had chance to end up in the top of the rad

drsmith1979
08-01-2008, 21:21
its strictly says do not bleed with it running in the members guides section? im presuming you run it upto temp once you have bled it via the bleed screw, then run it with the cap off to purge the rest as per matt brown?

MicKPM
08-01-2008, 21:28
i believe there is one type that can't be used with anything else, read the bottle and you'll be fine

Correct you NEED to use a Glycol based atnifreeze in the Renault F-Series engines as it's an anti-corrossion inhibitor which is kinda key when your coolant is circulating around an aluminium cylinder head as it doesn't cause erm... corrosion ;)

The "Type-D" is purely the temperature specification that the coolant "Mixture" or "Concentration" can protect the cooling system to. "Type-D" meaning the protection is good for -21 "degrees C" Don't mix it 50/50 either. Just buy yourself a proper mixture tester from Seleay Tools or similar for all of £8 and do it right. The Renault stuff is good but it's not cheap however it does take out the faffing about getting the mixture right.

The actual colour of the antifreeze does not in any way relate to the concentration specification so don't think that just because it's Green it's fine cos it's not and varies from brand to brand. Always check the main ingrediant is Ethelene-Glycol (EG) or Propylene-Glycol (PG) rather than a Methanol based coolant. The only difference between EG and PG is toxicity... PG isn't as harmfull if swallowed as EG but TBH you've got to be a complete retard to drink enough of the stuff and think "Hmmm, that's some tastey shizzite" to kill yourself.

Mick

white16valver
09-01-2008, 19:31
cool, thanks for the info :)

Daz.
09-01-2008, 19:41
"Hmmm, that's some tastey shizzite" to kill yourself

FAF

titcharoony
10-01-2008, 12:25
coolant is coolant.

C5 SWH
25-05-2008, 23:49
whats the part code for the green coolant from gsf?

simonr85
28-05-2008, 15:46
f**k it lads!!! im gonna piss in my tank!!! see what it does!!!


have done it before on a 205 gti, didnt smell too good!

BRUN
28-05-2008, 16:19
its strictly says do not bleed with it running in the members guides section? im presuming you run it upto temp once you have bled it via the bleed screw, then run it with the cap off to purge the rest as per matt brown?

if you bleed it without it running it wont be under pressure, which means the air wont be forced out, thats my understanding anyway

titcharoony
28-05-2008, 17:50
ive always bled my cars running. holding the expansion tankk up really high, opening the bleed screw, whilst getting a mate to blow into the tank. works a treat

evouk
31-05-2008, 12:00
SHOULD the renault cooland tpe D be 20 pounds for a 5 litre tub?????

richy
31-05-2008, 12:51
SHOULD the renault cooland tpe D be 20 pounds for a 5 litre tub?????

yeah it was always around the £20+vat area