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fab
08-08-2005, 19:13
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/fabtrader/DSCF0770.jpg

KingStromba
08-08-2005, 19:20
Cant tell from a photo, but id say they are too dark.

Slithers
08-08-2005, 19:32
Looks pretty damn close that, bit on the dark side but id put that down to the fact its a photo.

fab
08-08-2005, 19:46
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/fabtrader/ca_1_b.jpg

Ok here they are again in a different light.
unless I plan on driving without the wheel nuts i doubht the wheel nut area makes any difference at all.

and again in another light..

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/fabtrader/4.jpg

Andy
08-08-2005, 19:54
lok nice them mate

never get em perfect even new from renault arent right

if your happy that what matters :wink:

Zollo
08-08-2005, 19:55
Fab, don't worry about the exact shades of gold. So long as they're close enough, it's better than the majority of scuffed up originals. Anyway, on most cars the sun has faded the original 449 paint and Speedline gold to unoriginal shades anyway!

P.S. Yes, they do look a little darker than originals :wink:

Martin
08-08-2005, 19:57
Look spot on to me pal....especially in the second pic in natural light.

fab
08-08-2005, 19:59
Cheers lads for the opinions.very much appreciated.
yes they are a little on the dark side however after a few washs they'll brighten up. :lol:
Again thanks.
Fab.

Slithers
08-08-2005, 20:21
Look spot on to me pal....especially in the second pic in natural light.

Deffo, in the natural light they look far better

fab
08-08-2005, 21:03
dont think i'm gonna get a closer match,and buying new ones is far too stupid.
Good Luck.

KingStromba
08-08-2005, 21:05
Buying new is the only way to go :P

fab
08-08-2005, 21:29
Stromba you got rode :P :lol:

katbloke
08-08-2005, 21:34
Those the ones from infinicar on ebay?

WB KS

Tommo
08-08-2005, 21:40
I'd defo buy new if it wasn't for the extortionate price Renault want for 4 wheels! Will have to make do with a Proclean refurb.... :(

FATBOY
08-08-2005, 21:42
to dark IMHO but how can you judge them unless you can see them in the flesh! pictures always make things look different colour wise!

VIPERONE
08-08-2005, 22:05
here are my refurbs::

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/gunnergibson/wheelclean.jpg

FATBOY
08-08-2005, 22:10
now that looks to bright! but as i said you cant judge cos different camera quality! and weather conditions!

fab
08-08-2005, 22:13
What we are looking at here is a potential classic car and that will be another 10 or 15 years before/if it reaches that point.
So in my opinion anyone foolish enough to go out and buy new alloys now will only have to get them refurbished at a later stage,if they wish to keep/maintain their respective cars for monetary gain.

The car is meant to be driven and raced,none of us will dispute that fact.but pissing money away on the cosmetics is a womens thing!
Do you see were i'm coming from?

FATBOY
08-08-2005, 22:16
yeah i do mate! i paid £200 for my refurb and i was 100% pleased with the end result! if ur happy with it mate then thats all that matters! but you can see different refurb colours at meets! especially the FCS where there was 25 williams' you could see different shades of gold among them!

fab
08-08-2005, 22:18
totally.what should we do?
maybe we should get one specialist and everyone uses him!
BTW heard from the italians that Speedline aint makin them no mo!
So whatever Reno has in stock i think thats about the last of them new.

I am pleased with these ones.

I like discussing this kinda stuff on the forum cause its important everyone keeps a mature head on their shoulders and its all for the love of the Williams. 8)

FATBOY
08-08-2005, 22:21
by the way heres mine!

http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/index.php?get=gallery&thedir=Williams+3

not good news about them not making them anymore! dunno what the solution is???

Rich
08-08-2005, 22:22
correct

fab
08-08-2005, 22:24
Do you know what i really loved about going to Anglesey?Everyone was buzzin from the driving and not the look of the cars.Hope the forum remains the same.

Zollo
08-08-2005, 23:07
Do you know what i really loved about going to Anglesey?Everyone was buzzin from the driving and not the look of the cars.Hope the forum remains the same.

My thoughts also.

....though talking about making the cars look good and getting colour shades right is good too :wink:

KingStromba
08-08-2005, 23:38
What we are looking at here is a potential classic car and that will be another 10 or 15 years before/if it reaches that point.
So in my opinion anyone foolish enough to go out and buy new alloys now will only have to get them refurbished at a later stage,if they wish to keep/maintain their respective cars for monetary gain.

The car is meant to be driven and raced,none of us will dispute that fact.but pissing money away on the cosmetics is a womens thing!
Do you see were i'm coming from?

I will dispute it. I also think you are pretty ignorant if you cant understand that some people get more enjoyment out of restoring a car than driving it. Its not everyones cup of tea but id rather fit a new door seal and go for a leisurely drive, than take a trip to Anglesey to wear away my engine as fast as i can. I can understand why people do it and respect their decision, but its not my thang.

KingStromba
08-08-2005, 23:40
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/fabtrader/ca_1_b.jpg

Ok here they are again in a different light.
unless I plan on driving without the wheel nuts i doubht the wheel nut area makes any difference at all.

and again in another light..

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/fabtrader/4.jpg

It does make a difference. Geeks like me will know you have refurbed wheels. :P

KingStromba
08-08-2005, 23:42
totally.what should we do?
maybe we should get one specialist and everyone uses him!
BTW heard from the italians that Speedline aint makin them no mo!
So whatever Reno has in stock i think thats about the last of them new.

I am pleased with these ones.

I like discussing this kinda stuff on the forum cause its important everyone keeps a mature head on their shoulders and its all for the love of the Williams. 8)

2 left in this country (at last asking) and 3 hundred and something in France.

KingStromba
08-08-2005, 23:43
Do you know what i really loved about going to Anglesey?Everyone was buzzin from the driving and not the look of the cars.Hope the forum remains the same.

Unfortunaltely no mate. Im a restoration geek, and i dont drive fast. Youll have to put up with the likes of me on here :P


Unless i get banned again, which is very likely.

big hp
08-08-2005, 23:45
I'm a bit of a cleaning freak. :roll:

Not really into track days etc. Not in the williams anyway :twisted:

KingStromba
08-08-2005, 23:47
I'm a bit of a freak. :roll:

Not really into girls / women etc. Not in the sexual way anyway :twisted:

:shock:

KingStromba
08-08-2005, 23:48
yeah i do mate! i paid £200 for my refurb and i was 100% pleased with the end result! if ur happy with it mate then thats all that matters! but you can see different refurb colours at meets! especially the FCS where there was 25 williams' you could see different shades of gold among them!

Fatboys and snakeylady's wheels are some of the best ive seen. Not a bad effort.

big hp
08-08-2005, 23:48
I'm a bit of a freak. :roll:

Not really into girls / women etc. Not in the sexual way anyway :twisted:

Me neither

:shock:

I prefer mine to cook my tea and clean 8)

KingStromba
08-08-2005, 23:51
I'm a bit of a freak. :roll:

Not really into girls / women etc. Not in the sexual way anyway :twisted:

You mean you like boys

:shock:

The younger the better

:shock:

J o n
09-08-2005, 08:47
What we are looking at here is a potential classic car and that will be another 10 or 15 years before/if it reaches that point.
So in my opinion anyone foolish enough to go out and buy new alloys now will only have to get them refurbished at a later stage,if they wish to keep/maintain their respective cars for monetary gain.

The car is meant to be driven and raced,none of us will dispute that fact.but pissing money away on the cosmetics is a womens thing!
Do you see were i'm coming from?

I will dispute it. I also think you are pretty ignorant if you cant understand that some people get more enjoyment out of restoring a car than driving it. Its not everyones cup of tea but id rather fit a new door seal and go for a leisurely drive, than take a trip to Anglesey to wear away my engine as fast as i can. I can understand why people do it and respect their decision, but its not my thang.

think that's the funniest thing i will read all day... you respect peoples decision to mod their car and track day or 1/4 mile it? come on, surely you see the irony in that? pmsl

how did your 1/4 mile run go anyway? :P :lol: :wink: :twisted:

2 live
09-08-2005, 08:59
they look pretty damn close them mate

i had mine done at pro-clean, bit of a rush job and could have been a lot better if theyd spent a bit more time on em, but £150 for all four refurbed, with tyres fitted and balanced..jus goes to prove that not all cheap options are worse lol


mine were really letting the rest of the car down when i took em in, they came out the correct colour, nice and shiny again, with a silver lip instead of the corroded and kerbed lip they went in with...but like u say, the cars there to be driven, so more scratches, scuffs etc will appear, 18 months on and they still dont look too bad lol

J o n
09-08-2005, 09:03
speaking of refurbs i'm in need of getting mine done asap... Jon... help... lol

2 live
09-08-2005, 09:09
lol.im on it mate


shudda took mine up this weekend...il do it next weekend for def lol

J o n
09-08-2005, 09:25
nice one fella 8)

KingStromba
09-08-2005, 09:49
they look pretty damn close them mate

i had mine done at pro-clean, bit of a rush job and could have been a lot better if theyd spent a bit more time on em, but £150 for all four refurbed, with tyres fitted and balanced..jus goes to prove that not all cheap options are worse lol


mine were really letting the rest of the car down when i took em in, they came out the correct colour, nice and shiny again, with a silver lip instead of the corroded and kerbed lip they went in with...but like u say, the cars there to be driven, so more scratches, scuffs etc will appear, 18 months on and they still dont look too bad lol


To be fair proclean did do a good job of 2lives wheels. But id be careful of the inconsistency as i beleive Gunner took some there and they got the colour wrong. Maybe they had a youth in doing the wheels that day.

fab
09-08-2005, 10:06
"We are here for a good time not a long time"

VIPERONE
09-08-2005, 16:58
yes proclean did mine the incorrect colour twice.. the second time the match was near enough for me.. however, im no show car man.

VIPERONE
09-08-2005, 16:59
yes proclean did mine the incorrect colour twice.. the second time the match was near enough for me.. however, im no show car man... also giving them the speedline du pont code would probably sort things out :-)

Martin
09-08-2005, 17:09
as long as the wheels are'nt too dark/orange they be fine in my book..lighter is better!

Tommo
09-08-2005, 17:14
yes proclean did mine the incorrect colour twice.. the second time the match was near enough for me.. however, im no show car man... also giving them the speedline du pont code would probably sort things out :-)

Has anybody found out what the paint code is yet??

Tommo
09-08-2005, 17:15
The gold on a can of Stella is a close match lol, or so I was telling my mates one night when I was pissed, they all think I'm a fukkin saddo now..... :lol:

VIPERONE
09-08-2005, 17:21
stella sadtwat

:-)

big hp
09-08-2005, 17:28
The gold on a can of Stella is a close match lol, or so I was telling my mates one night when I was pissed, they all think I'm a fukkin saddo now..... :lol:


And now so do we :roll: :lol:

Tommo
09-08-2005, 17:35
The gold on a can of Stella is a close match lol, or so I was telling my mates one night when I was pissed, they all think I'm a fukkin saddo now..... :lol:


And now so do we :roll: :lol:

Ha ha, tell me about it. It was one of them, woke up in the morning and thought what the **** was I goin on about, raving about the gold on a can of Stella bein a close match to a williams speedline wheel...lol

fab
09-08-2005, 19:58
This is gonna really melt your heads.take a look at the two photos and tell me if they are the same wheel!



Picture A http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/fabtrader/ca_1_b.jpg

Picture B http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/fabtrader/ca_1_c.jpg

Zollo
09-08-2005, 20:03
Yeah they are, it's just the constrast has changed.

big hp
09-08-2005, 20:07
Agreed same wheel. Just different levels of sunshine.

KingStromba
09-08-2005, 21:11
Are these wheels powder coated or painted?

fab
11-08-2005, 11:00
Fab, don't worry about the exact shades of gold. So long as they're close enough, it's better than the majority of scuffed up originals. Anyway, on most cars the sun has faded the original 449 paint and Speedline gold to unoriginal shades anyway!

P.S. Yes, they do look a little darker than originals :wink:

Again thanks all for your opinions.I will take Zollo's quote as the one to follow.
When I fit them I will post photos of the original set and the refurbs side by side.
Incidently these are the wheels Paul from Infinicar posted on the forum sometime back in Feb.
http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8276&highlight=#8276
The opinions of some forum members have slightly altered since then :!:
But yes they need to be shiny to match the original.

KingStromba
11-08-2005, 11:03
My opinion change when i saw Freds wheels next to Eddes brand ish new reno wheels and they were WAY out.

Even he admitted it. Werent even close.

fab
11-08-2005, 13:09
Not sure who Fred is Stromba.These are the wheels off a 3 that was written off recently.Is this the car you saw back in Feb?I think I may be mistaken with the identity of these speedlines.

KingStromba
11-08-2005, 13:29
The wheels in that previous thread were wheels Paul Mitchel got Fred to powder coat.

fab
11-08-2005, 13:42
So did they go onto a 1 or a 3?Seems to me they went onto a 1.In which case these are not the ones that I bought.

Fred
12-08-2005, 01:41
they look like my handywork, i refurbished them for paul

he was fully restoring Willy no 0057 but there was a "misshap" with the engine, so he sold the shell and kept the wheels i did for it in his store room

never been used since refurb

fab
13-08-2005, 16:21
Bad News I'm Afraid.
They are way out.I didnt even fit them to the car.
They dont even come close to looking authtentic.And in the sun my original unfurbished set look so much better on the car. :cry:

VIPERONE
13-08-2005, 16:35
LOL

jill
13-08-2005, 16:42
Bad News I'm Afraid.
They are way out.I didnt even fit them to the car.
They dont even come close to looking authtentic.And in the sun my original unfurbished set look so much better on the car. :cry:

Speedline told me powder coated wheels were rubbish.

fab
13-08-2005, 17:17
Powder coated look awesome the only thing is the dirt seems to accumulate on them far easier than a painted rim.
You just have to see a painted wheel even if the colour match is correct,beside a powder coated one and I guarantee you you would take the powder coated one any day.

fab
13-08-2005, 22:16
Powder coated look awesome the only thing is the dirt seems to accumulate on them far easier than a painted rim.
You just have to see a painted wheel even if the colour match is correct,beside a powder coated one and I guarantee you you would take the powder coated one any day.

And to add to this I'm gonna have to eat humble pie and admit that I was very wrong in my opinions earlier.
And even worse I have to say that ultimately Stromba is right buying new is the way to go unless there is an alloy refurbish god out there.

Fred
14-08-2005, 00:35
LOL

jill
14-08-2005, 00:59
The problem with powder coat is that you cant control colour match as colour is rekated to heating and cooling cycle so the finished colour will always be different for different batches.

This is the reason speedline use paint. Quality control.

So no, id take the painted ones that are the right colour anyday.

Fred
14-08-2005, 04:23
The problem with powder coat is that you cant control colour match as colour is rekated to heating and cooling cycle so the finished colour will always be different for different batches.

This is the reason speedline use paint. Quality control.

So no, id take the painted ones that are the right colour anyday.

wrong, you could do 100 different batches in powdercoat, and they'd all be identical, you can't affect the dpeth of the colour by cooling etc etc

where as you could spray 10 wheels at 10 different times, and they'd be different colours due to how may coats are applied

fab
14-08-2005, 11:53
Cost aside is powdercoating the way to go with refurbing these wheels ?
Has anyone gone to Renault and asked them what they suggest/recommend?Maybe they have some sort of inside knowledge from Speedline that only they have access to,seeing as they have exclusive rights on these wheels.