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Squeak
14-02-2011, 14:17
Right following on from the original Group Buy on these AST Top Mounts back in January of 2010 I need 10 people together to get some and hopefully get some discount :P (Can be more than 10). I know there was a lot of controversy about the last batch that Kam Racing got from AST but I have been assured that all of the manufacturing problems with the last batch have been ironed out. I have been in talks with Kev from Kam Racing over the last couple of weeks.

This thread is currently only to see if I can get enough interest as I know that some people missed out including me (DOH).

Please read here for Kam Racing's specs:

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/renault-clio-mk1-257/bushes-mounts-780/ast-solid-adjustable-topmounts-renault-clio-mk1-2504.html

I have no details on the price as Kev is going to talk with AST. So when he informs me I shall inform you.

Here are some pics I have shamelessly stolen from Wobba who stole them from Foxy:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y105/geesus69/clio/Photo0129.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y105/geesus69/clio/Photo0124.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/f0xy_2006/--%20The%20MK1/25th%20May%2009%20-%20Brands%20Hatch%20Prep/IMG_3166.jpg
Courtesy of f0xy[/quote]

If you are interested please add your name to the list with the fitment type you require aswell. (What suspension you have)

1. Clio_Squeak (Gaz GHA Coilovers)
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11. ….

P.S i have branched this over Clio16Valver.co.uk, Williamsclio.co.uk, cliosport.net & Retro-Renault.com

G33R7
15-02-2011, 13:21
quite expensive compared to these

http://cgi.ebay.nl/Renault-Clio-Alloy-2-piece-Top-Mount-Pair-Anodized-Gold-/200476553989

Wobba
15-02-2011, 13:43
Depends on what discount he gets doesn't it though?

Also, the AST's allow adjustment of camber and caster. I like the look of that long top securing bolt though :)

Squeak
15-02-2011, 14:03
As Wobba said the AST are Camber and Castor adjustable. Prices are still unkown but i have been assured by Kev at Kam Raching that the new design of top nut has cured all previous problems. the emails are on CS when i get a min ill copy them over.

dhay14
15-02-2011, 15:05
im running Bilstein shocks atm but im planning on switching to coilovers in the near futher. can i use the same ast top mounts when i switch?

Squeak
15-02-2011, 15:57
I think there are two different type.

1 for coilovers and 1 for OE style suspension so in answer to your question i dont think you will.

Evogone
15-02-2011, 16:16
Which ones are need for cup racer suspension ? Guess there same as Bilsteins.....

G33R7
15-02-2011, 17:00
i needed to machine my de carbon cup shocks to fit these ast topmounts.

jackjz
15-02-2011, 20:26
id be interested price dependant running gaz coilovers

Evogone
16-02-2011, 08:49
i needed to machine my de carbon cup shocks to fit these ast topmounts.

What needs to be machined ?

Squeak
16-02-2011, 09:23
Got some info from Kam Racing today. No prices as yet but this may give you some more re-assurance.

My Email To Kev:

Hi Kev,
Thanks for getting back to me and sorry for pestering you. I'mjust keen toget these on my car. I have advertised a group buy over 4 sites Clio16Valver, Williamsclio, ClioSport and Retro-Renault. The threads have been up about 3 hours and i already have 8 people interested (price dependant). Would you be able to get prices for a group buy of 5, 10, 15 and 20 please.
Also a question has been asked by one of the guys. They are concerned as to what has been changed in the design to eliminate the problems that occured from the last group buy. Would it be possible to provide me a little statement and a few print screens of the CAD images to show wherethe alterations have been made. I think this will be the key factor to making this group buy sucessful for everyone including Kam Racing.
I look forward to hearing from you.
All the best Dan

Reply from Kev:

Hi Dan
The main problem was the top nut. Originally it only had a thread running at the top half of the nut. the new nut sits lower in the bearing and has it threaded all the way down.
That was the only thing really needed. This means it fits on the adjustable struts where the threaded part at the top is shorter.
Kev

Also if you are interested add your name down. I will not add it unless you ask. Current list is:

Cliosport:
1. Nickson (Unkown Suspension) [Price Dependant]
2. Markkram (Standard Cup Suspension) [Price Dependant]
3. stokedkid (ph1 172 gaz golds)
4. chris205 (trophy suspen sion/eibach springs)
5. Ra1bird (Ph1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
6. Struggler (spax suspension)
7. H12EEG ( WILLY 3 FK HIGHSPORTS)
8. andywiddss1- (Ph1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
9. Joah (182 Coilovers)
10. Tunst (Standard 172 Suspension) [Price Dependant]

C16v
1.Clio_Squeak (Gaz GHA Coilovers)
2.Snowman (O.E Williams dampers)

Got our 10 in just over 7 hours anymore people. Im hoping to go through with this buy then end of the month dependant on Kam Racing and AST etc.
Thanks Dan

Still awaiting an email regarding whether any changes where made for the OE suspension.

Evogone
16-02-2011, 10:34
Interested if they fit Cup racer suspension without bodging....

Squeak
16-02-2011, 10:41
Shall enquire for you this afternoon.

G33R7
16-02-2011, 10:41
i needed to machine my de carbon cup shocks to fit these ast topmounts.

What needs to be machined ?

difficult to explain... the wider area where the little ring is installed in for locking/installing the original top mount.

G33R7
16-02-2011, 10:48
The thicker part underneeth the tread. Just machine that of.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm290/Evogone/P1010390.jpg

Squeak
16-02-2011, 10:51
Was this one of the flaws with the old design? I will ask Kam Racing

G33R7
16-02-2011, 11:11
the flaw was the top nut. it was damaging the topmount it self. This was fixed after some time.

Squeak
16-02-2011, 11:30
so what problems are you having with the decarbons? Are you just saying that to get these to fit/work you need to machine part of the strut?

Sorry its just for clarification if anyone other than evogone asks.

G33R7
16-02-2011, 11:59
indeed, you need to machine the strut it self.

Squeak
24-02-2011, 09:10
New list. number 3-19 are from CS. Add your name to the list if you are down :8

1. Clio_Squeak (MK1 Gaz GHA Coilovers)
2. Snowman (OE Williams Suspension)
3. Nickson (PH1 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
4. Markkram (Standard Cup Suspension) [Price Dependant]
5. stokedkid (PH1 172 Gaz Gold)
6. chris205 (Trophy suspension/Eibach springs)
7. Ra1bird (PH1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
8. Struggler (Spax Suspension)
9. H12EEG (WILLY 3 FK HIGHSPORTS)
10. andywiddss1 (PH1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
11. Joah (182 Coilovers)
12. Tunst (Standard 172 Suspension) [Price Dependant]
13. superbenji88 (Phase1 172 Ast coilovers)
14. subarufreak (phase 1 172 standard suspension) [Price Dependant] - Also would be needed to ship to belgium..
15. Danny-ACE! (Williams) [Price Dependant]
16. Jonff (Koni Adjustable shocks/Eibach Sportlines) [Price Dependant]
17. Will. (172 OE Suspension) [Price Dependant]
18. Chris_786 (ph2 172 Vmaxx Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
19. weecraig1508 (Vmaxx Coilovers) [Price Dependant]


Please quote the message and add your name so i dont have to keep reformatting it please guys and girls

Coops
24-02-2011, 20:46
1. Clio_Squeak (MK1 Gaz GHA Coilovers)
2. Snowman (OE Williams Suspension)
3. Nickson (PH1 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
4. Markkram (Standard Cup Suspension) [Price Dependant]
5. stokedkid (PH1 172 Gaz Gold)
6. chris205 (Trophy suspension/Eibach springs)
7. Ra1bird (PH1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
8. Struggler (Spax Suspension)
9. H12EEG (WILLY 3 FK HIGHSPORTS)
10. andywiddss1 (PH1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
11. Joah (182 Coilovers)
12. Tunst (Standard 172 Suspension) [Price Dependant]
13. superbenji88 (Phase1 172 Ast coilovers)
14. subarufreak (phase 1 172 standard suspension) [Price Dependant] - Also would be needed to ship to belgium..
15. Danny-ACE! (Williams) [Price Dependant]
16. Jonff (Koni Adjustable shocks/Eibach Sportlines) [Price Dependant]
17. Will. (172 OE Suspension) [Price Dependant]
18. Chris_786 (ph2 172 Vmaxx Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
19. weecraig1508 (Vmaxx Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
20. Coops (FK Highsport Coilovers) [Price Dependant]

dhay14
25-02-2011, 12:46
1. Clio_Squeak (MK1 Gaz GHA Coilovers)
2. Snowman (OE Williams Suspension)
3. Nickson (PH1 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
4. Markkram (Standard Cup Suspension) [Price Dependant]
5. stokedkid (PH1 172 Gaz Gold)
6. chris205 (Trophy suspension/Eibach springs)
7. Ra1bird (PH1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
8. Struggler (Spax Suspension)
9. H12EEG (WILLY 3 FK HIGHSPORTS)
10. andywiddss1 (PH1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
11. Joah (182 Coilovers)
12. Tunst (Standard 172 Suspension) [Price Dependant]
13. superbenji88 (Phase1 172 Ast coilovers)
14. subarufreak (phase 1 172 standard suspension) [Price Dependant] - Also would be needed to ship to belgium..
15. Danny-ACE! (Williams) [Price Dependant]
16. Jonff (Koni Adjustable shocks/Eibach Sportlines) [Price Dependant]
17. Will. (172 OE Suspension) [Price Dependant]
18. Chris_786 (ph2 172 Vmaxx Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
19. weecraig1508 (Vmaxx Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
20. Coops (FK Highsport Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
21. Dhay14 (Bilstein shocks will be using FK Highsport Coilovers in a few months) [Price Dependant]

diditno
26-02-2011, 23:30
1. Clio_Squeak (MK1 Gaz GHA Coilovers)
2. Snowman (OE Williams Suspension)
3. Nickson (PH1 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
4. Markkram (Standard Cup Suspension) [Price Dependant]
5. stokedkid (PH1 172 Gaz Gold)
6. chris205 (Trophy suspension/Eibach springs)
7. Ra1bird (PH1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
8. Struggler (Spax Suspension)
9. H12EEG (WILLY 3 FK HIGHSPORTS)
10. andywiddss1 (PH1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
11. Joah (182 Coilovers)
12. Tunst (Standard 172 Suspension) [Price Dependant]
13. superbenji88 (Phase1 172 Ast coilovers)
14. subarufreak (phase 1 172 standard suspension) [Price Dependant] - Also would be needed to ship to belgium..
15. Danny-ACE! (Williams) [Price Dependant]
16. Jonff (Koni Adjustable shocks/Eibach Sportlines) [Price Dependant]
17. Will. (172 OE Suspension) [Price Dependant]
18. Chris_786 (ph2 172 Vmaxx Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
19. weecraig1508 (Vmaxx Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
20. Coops (FK Highsport Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
21. Dhay14 (Bilstein shocks will be using FK Highsport Coilovers in a few months) [Price Dependant]
22. diditno (kw coilover i think/williams) price delpendant.

Squeak
28-02-2011, 17:47
Updated list.

Also diditno are they defo coilovers?

New list. number 1 & 2 are from C16v, 3-20 are from CS, 21-23 WC. Add your name to the list if you are down :8

1. Clio_Squeak (MK1 Gaz GHA Coilovers)
2. Snowman (OE Williams Suspension)
3. Nickson (PH1 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
4. Markkram (Standard Cup Suspension) [Price Dependant]
5. stokedkid (PH1 172 Gaz Gold)
6. chris205 (Trophy suspension/Eibach springs)
7. Ra1bird (PH1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
8. Struggler (Spax Suspension)
9. H12EEG (WILLY 3 FK HIGHSPORTS)
10. andywiddss1 (PH1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
11. Joah (182 Coilovers)
12. Tunst (Standard 172 Suspension) [Price Dependant]
13. superbenji88 (Phase1 172 Ast coilovers)
14. subarufreak (phase 1 172 standard suspension) [Price Dependant] - Also would be needed to ship to belgium..
15. Danny-ACE! (Williams) [Price Dependant]
16. Jonff (Koni Adjustable shocks/Eibach Sportlines) [Price Dependant]
17. Will. (172 OE Suspension) [Price Dependant]
18. Chris_786 (ph2 172 Vmaxx Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
19. weecraig1508 (Vmaxx Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
20. Adeyspec (kw coilovers) [Price Dependant]
21. Coops (FK Highsport Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
22. Dhay14 (Bilstein shocks will be using FK Highsport Coilovers in a few months) [Price Dependant]
23. diditno (kw coilover i think/williams) [Price Dependant]

Please quote the message and add your name so i dont have to keep reformatting it please guys and girls

Squeak
08-03-2011, 18:05
Prices are in!

Hi Dan

Finally! I have prices. The cogs finally turn..

Current retail price £198 inc + postage
Group Buy Price (10 people+) £150 inc vat + postage (£9.98 for UK mainland addresses) Other prices on request Custom Anodised coating £57 inc vat

We can take payment by internet bank transfer or debit/credit card over the phone.
The most popular anodised colours are black and grey. Blue and green can also be done but as AST do these in bulk batches there could be a longer wait for these colours.
There is going to be a price increase to £204 inc vat later in the year so its a great opportunity to beat the rise.

Kindest regards
Kev

Squeak
15-03-2011, 09:00
If there is a further reduction for more than 10 people? Kev at Kam Racing is going to look into how much they will be able to do 20+ units for.

How much is the deposit? There is not going to be a deposit it will be a lump sum payment once the group buy finishes.

When do they want it buy? The group buy is gong to be closed as of 31st March. The confirmed number of people shall dictate the price.

How long is the lead time on getting them delievered to us? Roughly 2 Weeks Manufacture and allow 2 weeks for shipping from Holland to UK

I am aiming to have these with us buy the end off APRIL so that we have allowed enough time for more people to get in on the group buy/confirm and for AST to manufacture and ship to Kam Racing.

Also an important note is if you are going to want the non standard colour then the lead time shall be increased due to waiting for batches of that colour to be done etc. I do not know how much longer this is something you will have to speak to Kev about for your individual requirements.

PLEASE CONFIRM IF YOU ARE IN OR OUT. THIS GROUP BUY CLOSES 31 MARCH 2011.

Squeak
16-03-2011, 09:32
New list. number 1 -3 are from C16v, 4-23 are from CS, 24-26 WC. Add your name to the list if you are down :8

1. Clio_Squeak (MK1 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [CONFIRMED]
2. Snowman (OE Williams Suspension)
3. Costa (Avo Coilovers)[CONFIRMED]
4. Nickson (PH1 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
5. Markkram (Standard Cup Suspension) [Price Dependant]
6. stokedkid (PH1 172 Gaz Gold)[B][CONFIRMED]
7. chris205 (Trophy suspension/Eibach springs)
8. Ra1bird (PH1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
9. Struggler (Spax Suspension)
10. H12EEG (WILLY 3 FK HIGHSPORTS)
11. andywiddss1 (PH1 172 Gaz GHA Coilovers) [Price Dependant]
12. Joah (182 Coilovers)
13. OINK (Standard 172 Suspension) [Price Dependant]
14. superbenji88 (Phase1 172 Ast coilovers)
15. subarufreak (phase 1 172 standard suspension) [Price Dependant] - Also would be needed to ship to belgium..
16. Danny-ACE! (Williams) [Price Dependant]
17. Jonff (Koni Adjustable shocks/Eibach Sportlines) [Price Dependant]
18. Will. (172 OE Suspension) [Price Dependant]
19. Chris_786 (ph2 172 Vmaxx Coilovers) [CONFIRMED]
20. weecraig1508 (Vmaxx Coilovers) [CONFIRMED]
21. Adeyspec (kw coilovers)[Price Dependant]
22. robclio98 (mk2 ph1, vmaxx coilovers) [CONFIRMED]
23. d19wood (172 mk2 ph2 on GAZ GHA) [CONFIRMED]
24.Coops (FK Highsport Coilovers)[CONFIRMED]
25 Dhay14 (Bilstein shocks will be using FK Highsport Coilovers in a few months) [Price Dependant]
26. diditno (kw coilover i think/williams)[Price Dependant]

Please quote the message and add your name so i dont have to keep reformatting it please guys and girls

Also Received this from Kam Racing Last night!

Hi Dan
>
> We can do £140 + shipping if you can get 20 people Payment either by
> card or bank transfer :D
>
> Kev

My Reply

> Thanks kev.
>
> Just to confirm its 140 inc vat + shipping?

Dan

From Kam Racing
Hi Dan

Thats inc vat. Shipping will vary on where we are sending these.

P.S i have jumbled the numbers about to get in some sort of order so i know which person is from what forum so if you think i have removed you i haven't just look a lil closer

Squeak
28-03-2011, 13:02
Have Just got off the phone to Kam Racing. they are going to set up the links to how you pay for the items. It shall be either be by bank tansfer of by card payment. They will be doing this in the next few days (hopefully before the group buy finished thursday 31st march). The sooner we pay the sooner we get the top mounts. Once the payment details are up i shall pm everyone that is confirmed to remind them to pay. Hopefully no to loong now people

Dan

Looks like the end price shall be £150 inc vat + delivery :)

Kam Racing
29-03-2011, 15:32
Here are the links for purchasing.

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php/group-buy-clio-ast-solid-adjustable-top-mounts-oe-oe-style-dampers.html Top mounts for OE dampers.



http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php/ast-solid-adjustable-top-mounts-tma-r01-a120f-aftermarket-dampers-coilovers-1.html Top mounts for coilover units

Many thanks

zipp404_man
18-11-2013, 14:21
Here are the links for purchasing.

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php/group-buy-clio-ast-solid-adjustable-top-mounts-oe-oe-style-dampers.html Top mounts for OE dampers.



http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php/ast-solid-adjustable-top-mounts-tma-r01-a120f-aftermarket-dampers-coilovers-1.html Top mounts for coilover units

Many thanks

Hello, how is correct for a 172 with Gaz Gold dampers? Regards.

zipp404_man
18-11-2013, 18:26
Help me please, is very important :-(

16v_paddy
18-11-2013, 20:03
You'd be better off emailing Kam Racing directly as they haven't logged on here since 2011 :winkey:

zipp404_man
18-11-2013, 20:06
You'd be better off emailing Kam Racing directly as they haven't logged on here since 2011 :winkey:

I emailed them 2 or 3 emails and they didn't answer :( Thanks for your answer (sorry for my english but I'm not english).

zipp404_man
19-11-2013, 20:07
Anyone can't help me?