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-jo-
09-02-2011, 01:31
hi peeps,

its finaly time for a proper introduction. Ive been arround for a while, mostly reading and keeping my eyes on the "for sale" section. The only issue ive got is the language barrier. Never got any proper education in the english language and learned it from the tele and my overseas friends from 21TOC. Dont shoot me when i'm writtin horrible grammatic mistakes :lol:

Made, born and kicking in Belgium, the land where the gouverment banned tuned and modified cars. You read that correct, its illegal to modify anything on our cars besides rims, inductions and exhaust systems. For inductions, exhausts and lowering whe need documents with CE-approval from the manufacturer. Most belgian people who modified there cars, like eurostyle for example, rebuild there car ones a year when whe need to go for MOT. The Belgian MOT is totaly diff. then the UK-version. Our MOT-stations are gouverment property wich means...no gifts from you're local garage of MOT-tester.

Back to me then,currently 38 years young (or old, as you prefer), married with Katrijn (Kate) and father off 2 great son's ( Geoffrey 13 and Thomas 14). My passion started many many moons ago. My parents always whent for renaults and my first car at 18 was the R5 gtt Ph1, 26.000 km from new. From that moment there was no holding back, renault was in my blood. After own several gtt's, 19-16v's, 9turbo, 25V6 and safrane the love tempered a bit and bought my first E30 M3 at age of 25. That would last for long, crashed it after 3 months and bought the E36 M3 ceccoto version, 525tds,730 V8, E36-320, Audi S6. ... ok, this getting realy boring ! From 2000 it was back into the renaults as daily's but also hobby-wise. I bought the 19 16v ph2 as weekend toy. In 2002 ive bought my first 21turbo and from that moment things go wrong, seriously wrong. I desided to start small club with some friends and mess arround/fix cars. Rented a barn, fitted a ramp and some other garage equipment and now whe talk about an out off control hobby. At this moment ive got 6x21t's, 2x19 16v, twingo mk1 2.0 turbo project, 3xgtt and yes...finaly a clio 16v !! :lol:

So far for the intro i guess ? In the past ive posted many pics in another topic in the newbie section (Maurice)

-jo-
09-02-2011, 01:34
http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7840&highlight=

and my one off my baby's, from last months PFC magazine:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/21%20in%20FCS%20magazine/Scannen.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/21%20in%20FCS%20magazine/Scannen0001.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/21%20in%20FCS%20magazine/Scannen0002.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/21%20in%20FCS%20magazine/Scannen0004.jpg

-jo-
09-02-2011, 01:53
Now the serious part... :D

2 years ago ive builded the 19T with Glenn (Ph1, seen at FCS), low boost conversion and from that moment i knew that ive got to build me the 2.0T.
I already bought Justin's F7R bottomend in the past for the crank and wossner rods and some other goodies but didnt make the disicion what car i was gonna use. Eventualy ive choosen for the clio 16 valver.

The car need to be ready for FCS 2011 and i'm in full progress with the engine (done for 70%) and work on the gearbox now. Williams sub and suspension is a must (i'm looking for one with other words).

A little idea on what i got so far:

the car:
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/Jo%20F7P%20turbo/925567759_6_SKFU-1.jpg

Justin's Crank and rods (old bottomend)
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/Jo%20F7P%20turbo/Afbeelding026.jpg

My engine, the new one:
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/Jo%20F7P%20turbo/GetAttachment2.jpg

some parts, rad and silicon hoses:
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/Jo%20F7P%20turbo/Afbeelding075.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/Jo%20F7P%20turbo/Afbeelding058.jpg

refurb wheels:
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/Jo%20F7P%20turbo/mini-Afbeelding042.jpg

another set:
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/Jo%20F7P%20turbo/b3da_1.jpg

head...1.8 ! 3angle-valve seats.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/Jo%20F7P%20turbo/mini-Afbeelding005.jpg

some testmaterial :lol:
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/Jo%20F7P%20turbo/mini-Afbeelding011.jpg

Hairdryer :wink: left GT28RS .86turbine, .60compressor. Right GT3071R .86 turbine,.50 compressor
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/joke222/Jo%20F7P%20turbo/KopievanAfbeelding011.jpg

No pictures so far from manifold (nothing special, just the cast type). The gearbox i'm gonna use is the ND-00 (225), no matter what, it will fit ! :lol: Whe looking in to that at the moment. More to come...

Cheers for now and good night !

stevie_b
09-02-2011, 09:48
Welcome to the site. And well done for the excellent introduction - you certainly don't need to worry about your written English as it is better than a lot of people who have English as their first language! I look forward to reading more about your projects, so keep it coming.

Any parts you need give MatBrown on here a shout - he has everything and is very helpful. There is a chance I might be able to drop stuff off in Belgium if its too big to post overseas as I pass through there now and then on the way to the 'Ring. I don't think I'm likely to be going between now and much before FCS though I'm afraid, if your target is getting it all done by then - really hope to see you there and I plan to make it there myself for the first time this year (I really need to have a fixed target for finishing my car too!).

robi1000
09-02-2011, 10:40
Made, born and kicking in Belgium, the land where the gouverment banned tuned and modified cars. You read that correct, its illegal to modify anything on our cars besides rims, inductions and exhaust systems. For inductions, exhausts and lowering whe need documents with CE-approval from the manufacturer. Most belgian people who modified there cars, like eurostyle for example, rebuild there car ones a year when whe need to go for MOT. The Belgian MOT is totaly diff. then the UK-version. Our MOT-stations are gouverment property wich means...no gifts from you're local garage of MOT-tester.

It's the same here in Slovenia. Complete exhaust and suspension swap for every MOT. And then stripping and hiding engine modifications that should not be there! I'm still working on my speech that explains how Gr.A intake is "just an optional equipment for these cars and it was available from Renault..." I'm just not really sure if my MOT man will buy this! :lol:


I desided to start small club with some friends and mess arround/fix cars. Rented a barn, fitted a ramp and some other garage equipment and now whe talk about an out off control hobby. At this moment ive got 6x21t's, 2x19 16v, twingo mk1 2.0 turbo project, 3xgtt and yes...finaly a clio 16v !! :lol:

Same story. Me and my mates found an old barn and one year later it's a proper workshop. :lol:

BTW, my mate builds a proper BX Superproduction. It will be an animal with around 800hp/tonne. :D Finding suitable parts for that car is really hard. Not to mention the price. So, I understand your "pain"!

Anyway, welcome to the forum! I would love to see more pics of your projects! Keep up the good work!

Wobba
09-02-2011, 22:48
Fuking LOL at the number of head gaskets haha!

I remember your 21 turbo. Some nice trick gear on that, well done, and now I see you have good ol' Justin's bottom end too! Fantastic.

Do make the effort to some see us at FCS and if there is anything we can do to help let us know, I am sure there will be a load of us happy to assist :D

-jo-
09-02-2011, 23:21
Thx Wobba, you can count on that and i'm sure that i'm gonna meet some people before FCS.
The cup engine from the 21 is prov. sold and if everything goes by plan, i'm gonna deliver it at gloucestershire wich give me the opportunity to pick up some williams parts for my valver.

The only confusion at the moment is about the steering rack, will this be reversable ? I know for sure that this aint possible with the 21's. They have diff shaped left and right arms. If the rhd williams rack is ussable on the lefthooker, happy days ! :lol:

-jo-
09-02-2011, 23:26
It's the same here in Slovenia. Complete exhaust and suspension swap for every MOT. And then stripping and hiding engine modifications that should not be there! I'm still working on my speech that explains how Gr.A intake is "just an optional equipment for these cars and it was available from Renault..." I'm just not really sure if my MOT man will buy this! :lol:


Screw the belgian rules ! It became that crazy that i exported the car to holland wich is just 40 min away from me and a friend took it in his name. In Holland they handle the same system as UK. Everything is possible.

I know the feeling about GrN and cup parts. I've used all original renaultparts from the cup car and even took the GrN and cup manual with me to MOT.

snowman
10-02-2011, 01:06
hello jo,welcome. Looking forward to reading some more posts about your project ;-)

robi1000
10-02-2011, 10:01
I know the feeling about GrN and cup parts. I've used all original renaultparts from the cup car and even took the GrN and cup manual with me to MOT.

Did it make any difference? I wanted to photoshop Gr.A manual and erase all unnecessary things (where it says Clio Gr.A :lol:) and presenting it as optional equipment. Then I'd print another version of Clio Williams booklet with these schemes integrated inside in a nice hardcover booklet. 8)

In Belgium, do you also have trouble with police inspecting your car and taking you to extra MOT because they suspect your car is tuned? If they find out that it is, your license plates are confiscated and you get massive fine... :cry:

Not to mention that in addition to that you have to pay the authorised dealer to remove the parts, replace them with original ones and come back for another MOT (for which you pay). It's crazy...

-jo-
10-02-2011, 13:44
hello jo,welcome. Looking forward to reading some more posts about your project ;-)

THX ! The next load has to waith till the gb and clutch is sorted. Its gonna be something diff, getting the ND-00 attached on the F7R. I'm prob. gonna rebuild the clutchsystem from mechanical to hydraulic (master and slave cilinder)


Did it make any difference? I wanted to photoshop Gr.A manual and erase all unnecessary things (where it says Clio Gr.A :lol:) and presenting it as optional equipment. Then I'd print another version of Williams clio booklet with these schemes integrated inside in a nice hardcover booklet. 8)
In Belgium...hell no ! LOL. In holland it did, there they appriciate builds like this. Its not like you getting away with crappy things, it has to done in the proper way otherwise its a fail.


In Belgium, do you also have trouble with police inspecting your car and taking you to extra MOT because they suspect your car is tuned? If they find out that it is, your license plates are confiscated and you get massive fine... :cry:
Sounds like you got the same regulation as over here. What they do, they pick you from the motorway and you got to follow to the first service station where a mobile MOT station with several mechanics is waithing. All the modifications that are NOT listed on you're MOT document are illegal. You get a nice ticket for that, have to remove them and go back to mot. Depending what sort off modification you can end up in court.



Not to mention that in addition to that you have to pay the authorised dealer to remove the parts, replace them with original ones and come back for another MOT (for which you pay). It's crazy... Same as above, with this diff... if you got a turbo-conversion for example and more then 30% power as std, confiscated !

robi1000
10-02-2011, 23:13
Confiscated and "recycled" in a car-crusher. :(

robi1000
10-02-2011, 23:17
I hope you will upload some pics soon for us to drool...

I really like your R21. My friend has 7 of them. One is Quadra and another two are just Turbo. One is TXi and others are something special too, but I don't really know... :lol:

-jo-
08-05-2012, 10:41
small update, transformed the clio over the last months.

Megane cup steeringrack + colum without powersteering
Megane cup wishbones with uniballs, no bushes, only bearings.
Megane cup hubs with extender
Megane cup adjustable clutchcable (not at the pedal!)
Megane cup coilovers with nordsleiffe set up (springs)
AP racing GrA 4pot calipers with rotors
Ragnotti (GrA) forged driveshafts
Custom topmounts (uniball)
Vibratechnic mounts



ow, and forced induction... :lol:

cliokongen
08-05-2012, 11:46
Pictures Jo... :D
Great project - keep it up!

Where did you get the Megane cup wishbones with uniballs?
Interesting! :-)

Michael

Coops
08-05-2012, 12:16
pics required as its been over a year ;-)

-jo-
08-05-2012, 12:18
The dutch guy's, Martijn Kool and JP strijthagen (treico.nl), supplied most cup parts. The gain with this set up is between 9 and 11 cm each side :P
Its pretty expansive but you know that before you start.

The pics ive got are pretty crap, i'm skinned so no dinero's for a decent camera :wink:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/joke221/SP_A0153.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/joke221/DSC00019-1.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/joke221/DSC00006-1.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/joke221/DSC00014-2.jpg

Coops
08-05-2012, 12:19
looking good!love the maxi kit on it. I thought the car was white??? lol!

why have you put an entire tumble drier in the engine bay as well! that type of boost pipework always makes me giggle! :D

-jo-
08-05-2012, 12:22
thats induction. This was done because i had time-issues. The batt. needs to go in-car to clear space. All boost pipes are samco + aluminium.

-jo-
08-05-2012, 12:24
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/joke221/SP_A0150.jpg

-jo-
08-05-2012, 12:27
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/joke221/Clio%20Maxi%20Williams/DSC00095.jpg

cliokongen
08-05-2012, 12:28
WIDE!!!!!

ThRaXaIR
08-05-2012, 12:33
Holy crap!! looking good buddy! :D

Wobba
08-05-2012, 15:06
Oh my! Interesting suspension :D

Coops
08-05-2012, 15:52
sorry I meant induction pipework, lol at even attempting to put boost through those hoses! :lol:

-jo-
08-05-2012, 15:57
LOL, you never know ! This is just the temp. solution till the batt. move backwards.

Its lovely stuff that renault uses but a pain to get you're hands on ! For example, the uniballs (rod ends) are in backorder for over 1 year. :roll:

16mm hole for the extenderpin, M18x1.5 treadsize. Try to find that !!!

(i have, straith from the Schaublin factory in swiss. who supplied to renault...at 200 € p/p :evil: )

walters300
08-05-2012, 17:12
8) very nice!!! I am working out in Belgium at the moment In Geel, is that anywhere near as I'd love to see the car, lovely job!

-jo-
08-05-2012, 17:19
Thats 60km from me. I'm between Antwerp and Gent if you take the ferry/train you passing me.

walters300
08-05-2012, 17:29
:D I fly in to schippol every week and get the train to Antwerp and then back on a Friday, I've seen this car on YouTube I am sure with tek soldiers doing a rolling road on it, we have another project down in gent aswell and I will find out how far it is, I have a similar car sat on my drive now and my w3 both needing work and I was thinking of doing 1 good one out of the 2, seeing yours would definitely make mind up, if your about any evening I would be delighted to call down :wink:

-jo-
08-05-2012, 18:36
give me a buzz when youre there. Phonenumber pm'd.

walters300
08-05-2012, 18:48
8) will do buddy..

cliokongen
08-05-2012, 18:57
Lots of dedication have obviously gone into this project! :shock:
Very nice!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/joke221/DSC00006-1.jpg

Would the A-arms and upright fit without having to do the widebody/Maxi transformation?

A-arms and uprights - what is the possibility of finding these items?


Michael

-jo-
08-05-2012, 20:00
Its possible to fit these, i can show you some examples on 3 diff. type renaults:

1: R19-16v with the same set up
http://www.renault-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=21305&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1995

2: clio sport cup with the same set up
http://www.renault-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=30071&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=daan&start=0

3: my clio

you can adjust whatever you want. With the uniball (rod end) alone you gain 4-5cm

cliokongen
08-05-2012, 21:33
Drooling...
This will get expensive I am afraid! :D

Where can I buy it? (IWANT IT!!!) :D

The R19 - looks like they removed the torsion bars and fitted coilovers - correct? (I have been thinking about this - but in doubt of the damper type and spring length/kg)


Michael

-jo-
08-05-2012, 21:48
he mounted the cup megane rear axle :wink: Because where close to the ring, most off us build some toy to trash the ring.

cliokongen
08-05-2012, 22:05
If i were a bit closer to the Ring i would have a Jahreskarte...
It's so expensive buying laps every time going there... :roll:
Getting ever more expensive every year!

A-arms and uprights - where can i find these items?


Michael

-jo-
08-05-2012, 22:10
Martijn Kool is youre best option.

http://www.koolautosport.nl/

martijn@koolautosport.nl

cliokongen
08-05-2012, 22:21
Thamks Jo..
Will look into it! :D

-jo-
09-05-2012, 12:26
Il see him this sunday,wil ask what he got, gonna pick up a megane cup chassis. Hes not avaible today, trackday at Assen with the cup clio.

cliokongen
09-05-2012, 13:54
Il see him this sunday,wil ask what he got, gonna pick up a megane cup chassis. Hes not avaible today, trackday at Assen with the cup clio.

Please do... :D
Let me know....

-jo-
12-05-2012, 21:59
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/joke221/cup%20megane%20en%20donor/20120424183034.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/joke221/cup%20megane%20en%20donor/20120424183025.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/joke221/cup%20megane%20en%20donor/20120424182953.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/joke221/cup%20megane%20en%20donor/20120424182931.jpg

-jo-
17-05-2012, 23:03
Il see him this sunday,wil ask what he got, gonna pick up a megane cup chassis. Hes not avaible today, trackday at Assen with the cup clio.
Please do... :D
Let me know....

Hubs + extender + wishbone with uniballs (rod end), no bushes but bearings.

-jo-
09-09-2012, 08:23
Project still going on, car is 90% ready. Had some issues with the clutch, had to modified the bearing. And the other thing is the rh driveshaft. Bought sadev's but one is too long :( Cup springs are removed and replaced with the nordsleiffe set up from Bilstein, give's a bit more comfort on public roads.

walters300
23-10-2012, 22:15
any more news on this? its been a while now... still havent had a chance to call over would love to see some pics of the car8-)

-jo-
11-11-2012, 12:56
results at 0.6 bar (8.5psi) and 0.9 bar (13 psi) with 803's on stock fuelpump. Unfort. the pump cant handle the 0.9 bar in higher revs. (these are wheelfigures ;) )

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/joke221/dyno%2010%20nov%202012/JoClioTurbo.jpg