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summeh
01-08-2005, 22:38
Anyone interested in a group buy on these... ?



The entry level (same as mine, but stronger calipers) works out at £360 including delivery. This kit is designed for use with standard 259mm discs and comprises of :

Pair of Wilwood Dynalite forged calipers
Pair of high strength aluminium brackets
Pair of braided hoses (needs longer than standard)
Set of Wilwood Poly E pads (0-900 degrees F)
All fixings needed

The only extras are £10 more for Poly A pads (450-1300 degrees F) and if you want us to supply the discs they are £40.

280mm kit (using 172 discs) is now available at £390 when supplied without discs or another £50 on top again with discs.

If anyone wanted to arrange a group buy then the price would be £340 (delivered) and 3 sets would need to be ordered.


If you are interested please reply here with your name and kit type... 3 sets required for a discount. I'll be ordering mine this week.

summeh
01-08-2005, 22:38
Summy - 280mm Kit + Discs

BRUN
02-08-2005, 10:37
so would that be £380 delivered for a standard sized kit with discs and pads

hmmmmm very tempting

Jamie.
02-08-2005, 13:04
what is the standard price....how much would we be saving?

summeh
02-08-2005, 13:21
jamie, its in the quote.

summeh
02-08-2005, 13:21
360 std price, or 340 with 3 people buyin to get the discount.

Mark_Ritchspeed
02-08-2005, 13:49
so would that be £380 delivered for a standard sized kit with discs and pads

hmmmmm very tempting

Yep thats correct. We really cant do them any cheaper than that as the mark-up is quite minimal to start with.

summeh
02-08-2005, 13:56
mark, can u supply brake fluid with these kits? whatever u recommend as best?

Mark_Ritchspeed
02-08-2005, 14:08
We use the Millers High Temp Dot4 race fluid which we can do for £19 a litre which is enough for a complete change of the system.

Its not particularly cheap, but as race fluids go its still around 1/2 the price of Castrol SRF.

matty
02-08-2005, 18:59
Interested but was thinking more along the lines of the midilite caliper if available. Someone on Cliosport said Radles advised this would fit but they weren't helpful when I asked.

Do want better calipers to replace my fronts so if midilites aren't available will be up for this.

Mark_Ritchspeed
02-08-2005, 19:09
Rally Design have gone to the Midilite as its a radial mount caliper and easier to design brake kits around. Wont give any real performance advantage over the forged Dynalite caliper.

The downside to the Midilite, is that pads are more expensive and the calipers themselves are more expensive and its not as good a caliper for track use as the Dynalite.

matty
02-08-2005, 19:22
Think it may suit me better for better road use though as not gone near a track, may do one day but would rather gear towards better everyday braking.

Pads look about £5 dearer and without knowing which model of Dynalite is used, calipers look £5-15 more.

Is this correct Mark? Could you quote us for a Midilite set up?

matty
02-08-2005, 19:35
On further investigation, midilite seems designed for a 21.1mm disk diameter where as a dynalite is 20.6. That kind of difference wouldn't cause it to not fit would it?

Without knowing master cylinder bore size don't know what caliper is needed. Then just need pads, bracket for fixing and hoses.

As gonna be using with my Tarox G88 disks whcih would be better for everyday road use, midilite or dynalite?

BRUN
03-08-2005, 01:35
this might sound really daft mate, but could you not do a cheaper wilwood kit, do they not have a different caliper that might suit a road only application, i really wont be going on the track so the 4 pots i feel are overkill for me and too expensive to justify what they will be used for, though ive no doubt at all its a good kit at a great price

VIPERONE
03-08-2005, 03:00
gsf £40 per caliper

BRUN
03-08-2005, 08:02
thats what im probably gonna do to be honest

Mark_Ritchspeed
03-08-2005, 09:03
this might sound really daft mate, but could you not do a cheaper wilwood kit, do they not have a different caliper that might suit a road only application, i really wont be going on the track so the 4 pots i feel are overkill for me and too expensive to justify what they will be used for, though ive no doubt at all its a good kit at a great price

Impossible for us to do. We bulk buy the calipers/pads and hoses in the first place to get them cheaper and then the actual pair of brackets also take between 4-5 hours in total when machining from billet aluminium bar. It simply wouldnt be worth the effort on our behalf for what is already a very slender profit margin.

Mark_Ritchspeed
03-08-2005, 09:11
Think it may suit me better for better road use though as not gone near a track, may do one day but would rather gear towards better everyday braking.

Pads look about £5 dearer and without knowing which model of Dynalite is used, calipers look £5-15 more.

Is this correct Mark? Could you quote us for a Midilite set up?

The total extra cost of the Midilite calipers when compared to the Dynalites is nearly £50 a pair. The pads themselves are only around £8 more expensive per set. On top of this, they also take smaller pads, so your paying more for an inferior braking set-up.

This is why we dont use the Midilites.

matty
03-08-2005, 18:11
OK, will go with dynalites I think. The features of teh midilites like quick pad fitting (although hope not to change pads often) seals and anti squeal seem appealing but if its gonna be another 50 quid then will not bother.

How much including fitting?

Craig
03-08-2005, 20:19
any pics of the calipers mate? they got willwood in white on em or black? :)

Lunner
03-08-2005, 20:21
IIRC they are black wiht Wilwood on white on them.

Richy sent me the link to a couple of pics, so PM him for links

Craig
03-08-2005, 20:26
cool! when i ordered some last time from RALDES i expected white writing but was dissapointed when they were balck as u cant see em!

im a funny cunt like that hehe!

Lunner
03-08-2005, 20:34
I THINK they are white, don't quote me on that...can always paint them ;)

Craig
03-08-2005, 20:44
if they are the dynalites they are i think, reckon i had the dynalite II's!

stopped like a mother fuker tho!

but dfo recommend dot 4 fluid over 5.1!! 5.1 needs bleeding too often!

Craig
07-08-2005, 21:35
Whats crack with this then? cos if i dont get 4 pots on this car im gonna smash it up lol!

richy
07-08-2005, 21:43
the writing is silver craig, i have this kit already, basicly wilwood dynalites the new versions, comea with fitting kit, pads and hoses, the discs are extra on top and ur choice if u want to run std size or 280mm iirc, obviously mark is best person to talk to about prices but cracking brakes!! never had any problems at angelsey with mine

Lunner
07-08-2005, 21:53
If you wanna chat to mark, best to rung him tbh, easier too, google ritchspeed imports, number is on the site

Craig
07-08-2005, 21:57
thanks!

Mark_Ritchspeed
08-08-2005, 09:22
Yep, best off to give me a ring on 01970 871092. The one problem with group buys is they generally take a while to organise, so if your desperate it may be worth sorting them now.

At then end of the day we can only do a small discount for a grouo buy anyway.

matty
13-09-2005, 20:43
I am still after a set and can wait as only need when cams and headwork is done in next few months or 2.0 bottom end sourced. As and when front pads need changing I will change the whole lot, keeping disks as they are Tarox G88s.

So if 2 others join can get a group buy and pay at same time, just that I'm in no rush for the brakes but can always buy and keep to fit when needed.

J o n
14-09-2005, 08:55
i want these, cant afford them at the moment... unless Mark you take credit card? otherwise i'll have to save for a set, but std/uprated pads and disks alone are simply not enough.

Craig
14-09-2005, 09:45
I want some too!

can u pay on CC at all Mark? If so can get them sooner and pay it off later!

Cheers

northy
14-09-2005, 09:47
Mark can only accept cheques lads.

Craig
14-09-2005, 10:12
boooo! lol

Mark_Ritchspeed
14-09-2005, 13:55
We can also accept bank transfer, so if your desperate and cant wait, then transfer the funds into your normal account and then just wire them over.

Cheers
Mark

stew
23-09-2005, 15:15
will the 280mm discs fit with standard willy 15" wheels?
are the discs standard vented, or grooved or cross-drilled?
also i assume that these brakes are 4pot calipers?

Cheers,
very interested as need better stopping power!

richy
23-09-2005, 18:32
will the 280mm discs fit with standard willy 15" wheels?
are the discs standard vented, or grooved or cross-drilled?
also i assume that these brakes are 4pot calipers?

Cheers,
very interested as need better stopping power!

yes the 280mm kit will fit under std willy wheels, the discs are all vented but not drilled/grooved iirc, and yes they are 4pots!
i have the kit but running 260mm discs, fantastic braking power now :D

TriO`
27-10-2005, 13:46
Im going to be buying this setup when i've got the cash and was just wondering how many of the people that have bought this kit used the Wilwood Poly E pads and who used other pads...


and if the wilwoods are better than whatever other ones people got



cheers TriO`

richy
27-10-2005, 14:16
i use the wilwood poly E pads, not had any problems with them, not actually tried any others as yet so cant really say compared to other makes

matty
27-10-2005, 20:09
I also want a set of these brakes so if 3 are needed for group buy price can 2 others let me know when they are getting theres so we can take advantage of the group buy.

Mattie
28-10-2005, 11:41
ill PM u matt as i also want sum not sure wen it will be though, prob around jan time, maybe sooner....ill let u kno though if u still aint got any by then!

matty
30-10-2005, 17:38
I just want some to replace the old standard calipers and will probably do early next year or sooner depending how much pad material I have left on fronts when I check them.

With new engine being worked on over winter I am wanting better brakes to go with the power increase.

Craig
30-10-2005, 19:32
i want them too!! sooooon

Lunner
30-10-2005, 20:43
They are on my wish list, but engine takes priority at the moment

matty
10-01-2006, 20:12
Who's still up for this. 3 needed and then we can contact Mark.........

Craig
10-01-2006, 20:24
damn it!

me but i cant afford them at the moment! runabout died so had to spend the money on another car! and got 2 x MOT's and tax to pay this month grrrrr!!

possibly get them soon tho!

Martin
11-01-2006, 20:38
Mark has gone AWOL anyway has'nt he?

northy
12-01-2006, 09:25
yep.

RIP Ritchspeed brake conversions.

stew
12-01-2006, 09:32
yep.

RIP Ritchspeed brake conversions.

:( Just when i have finished getting money together for some! :evil:

Ah well will have to shop around now. Anyone else doing Wilwood dynalites in a kit for a clio 16v?

What are "Hi Spec" like compared to wilwoods?

:wink:

Craig
12-01-2006, 10:51
damn it!!!

wonder what else is available!

i know nick hill supplies tarrox 6 pots! not cheap tho, but not sure if he can do 4 pots or not for cheaper maybe

Jamie.
12-01-2006, 11:14
there is nothing for that price...... i wana spend up to 400 for some 4 pots so if u need a 'grp buy' let me know with what u have found. i was amazed that bb dont do 4pots anymore¬

Jamie.
12-01-2006, 11:30
sorry bb do, do 4pots just had an email from em. i couldnt find it on their sight........ gona email me the details now

northy
12-01-2006, 11:41
post it up when you find the details as there are a few who are intrested in this kit.

Jamie.
12-01-2006, 12:13
will do mate. although im a bit gutted i missed out on marks kit tbh. i have been humming and harring about getting them for a while. shame really. oh well nm

Jamie.
12-01-2006, 14:56
bb said it was 550 + VAT (bloody expensive IMO).

ktec do their 4pots for 480+VAT

and i just rung HiSpec and they quoted the same price as K-Tec. a;though in hitecs price it didnt include hoses or pads.

anyone else got any suppliers etc?

tony16v
12-01-2006, 16:06
why dont we make our own kits??

Jamie.
12-01-2006, 16:24
with what parts and from where? if it was 100% certain that we could 'make' our own kits that would fit without bodgery id do it. where would u get the callipers from tho?

tony16v
12-01-2006, 16:29
you can get all the parts from rallydesign the only problem I can see is getting the universal bracket that they sell machined.

Not to much of a problem though, would have thought there would be loads of CNC machine that could do it..

Jamie.
12-01-2006, 16:32
can u post up the prices then mate, or post a link?

tony16v
12-01-2006, 16:33
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=562&osCsid=9d11ead07a543545e5b48405f3844c7c

Jamie.
12-01-2006, 16:36
how do i know what callipers fit what car. im sorry if these seem stupid questions? is there a guide somewhere?

tony16v
12-01-2006, 16:37
we can use the same calipers as marks kits

northy
12-01-2006, 16:53
Pair of any 4 pot calipers that will fit behind a 15" wheel.
Pair of aluminium caliper mounting brackets (this is what spaces the caliper to the correct distance from the hub and ensures its central with the disk)
Pair of hoses
Set of pads

Thats it.

Ebay has some fantastic calipers....AP racing would be my choice if i was to do it again.

Craig
12-01-2006, 17:03
definitely! they are the daddies!

brembo are good too.

iv heard hi-spec arent that good really!

matty
12-01-2006, 21:15
Well I am sure Mark may be contactable again at some point by teh time hopefully 3 of us will have wonga ready to tempt him.

I was hoping for the midilites which are sealed and would get those from raldes with rest from Mark. But if the dynalites are ok seal wise will get them from mark in whole kit form. Whatever he can supply be it brackets only or whole shabang.

Probably not best pestering him if there aren't 3 people ready as doubt any1 has used the group buy yet as every1 just been talking about it. But if 3 are ready then its more worth his while.

Lunner
12-01-2006, 21:31
I will be ready at some point, let me know if you need a 3rd person to make up the trio, might just be enough to persuade me inot more debt :D

tony16v
12-01-2006, 21:31
I thought the midilight was a radial mount and the ones Marks sells are lug mount... so you may need a different type of bracket...

stew
12-01-2006, 21:55
I'm in as well. Just gimmie a shout when we get everyone together. 8)

Jamie.
12-01-2006, 22:11
mark has dissapeared off the face of the plannet....... im not sure his business still exists. no ans on the phone or mobile and no messge? odd.

matty
12-01-2006, 22:20
Mark said: "Rally Design have gone to the Midilite as its a radial mount caliper and easier to design brake kits around. Wont give any real performance advantage over the forged Dynalite caliper.

The downside to the Midilite, is that pads are more expensive and the calipers themselves are more expensive and its not as good a caliper for track use as the Dynalite."

If we can't get hold of Mark then it really doesn't mater which caliper you go for as the brackets will have to be amde to fit them from a universal bracket. And if radial mount is easier I am all for that.

And from looking on Raldes it does seem to be the only caliper matching clio master cylinder bore size. But not sure why it is not on Willwoods website......

tony16v
12-01-2006, 22:21
its cheaper to get the calipers from the states as well.

I'm sure with our powers combined we could come up with something.. LOL

Jamie.
12-01-2006, 22:26
i have the cash and am waiting to buy a kit.......... so that means a poss discount

northy
16-01-2006, 09:10
would u want the exact same kit again lads ?

Spoken to wilwood and rally design and ive managed to get the same deal for 5 units.

Only thing that might cost more is the aluminum bracket.

So if u still want this kit i need 5 names with payment in full and i will get on with it.

northy

Craig
16-01-2006, 09:22
if they accept credit cards then yes lol!

northy
16-01-2006, 09:30
Ok if Mark cannot make the kits i'll help you guys out.

give me a week so i can get a price on the machining work needed for the aluminium brackets. Hes a old boy i use through work and this is for a fav :wink:

Then i can give you an exact cost.

I can now supply

Williamsclio mounting brackets.
Wilwood caliper
Pads
Hoses

Im only doing standard williams size direct replacements though as im not happy with the extra weight the 172spec has given at each front wheel....they are seriously well heavy and although they are fine on a 172 they will destroy a williams.