View Full Version : Auto Express, Best Hatch Ever......... :o
Slick Ric
21-01-2010, 11:37
I thought I'd share the news that this weeks Auto Express has a 27 page pull out of the best 20 hot hatches ever. The Williams came in at No:1. Makes me smile a little more when I look out of the window. :D
Thanks for letting us know, will have to take a look!!
get this on cliosport now...lol
Erm... that mkII Golf looks out of place.
white16valver
21-01-2010, 14:54
The Golf GTi Mk5 is in the top 10?
I thought it was shit?? lol
Can u scan the rest of the article in please ?
OH YEA! OH YEA! OH YEA!! OH YEA!!!
:groupwave:
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6340002#post6340002
Watch the fireworks begin...
cliokongen
21-01-2010, 16:08
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6340002#post6340002
Watch the fireworks begin...
LOL - that should be fun to follow that thread
Slick Ric
21-01-2010, 16:10
Enjoy :D
Williams is the greatest... it's obvious. :wink: :wink:
But I'm a bit disappointed... where is the Clio II RS Trophy?
Slick Ric is my new bestest fwiend :D
Jesus they need to get some of those facts right!
8 grand value! 1.7 16v!!! :lol:
Jesus they need to get some of those facts right!
8 grand value!
SHHHHHH!!!! QUICK! LETS ALL SELL OURS BEFORE THEY NOTICE!!!
I'd have a Trophy and Pug 309 GTI in there over the MkV Golf and Astra GTE, but nice to see the Willy come out on top :D
It's good to see they have not included all the psuedo fat modern turbo cars as well. They are a different class imo.
MatrixGuy
21-01-2010, 18:46
That is awesome!! 8)
That is awesome!! 8)
yea ;) just bought two copies for future reference :D
Carole Anne
21-01-2010, 21:17
Legen...... wait for it ........... dary 8)
gonna check out CS now if the thread hasn't been locked by the haters already :lol:
ThRaXaIR
21-01-2010, 21:34
Legen...... wait for it ........... dary 8)
gonna check out CS now if the thread hasn't been locked by the haters already :lol:
nice how i met your mother reference there CA!! :D
love it great news!
i too am gunna check out those CS monkeys!
Carole Anne
21-01-2010, 21:44
:thumbsup: (how good is that prog!)
Surprisingly lots of love for the Willy on CS and not their usual kind of willy love if you know what I mean.
ThRaXaIR
21-01-2010, 21:45
:thumbsup: (how good is that prog!)
Surprisingly lots of love for the Willy on CS and not their usual kind of willy love if you know what I mean.
its legen 'and i hope your not lactose intolerant cos here it is' dary! sorry had to do it lol.
talkingfish
21-01-2010, 21:50
Erm... that mkII Golf looks out of place.
I've had two MkII Gti's and thought them to be an excellent car.... in the mid 80's it was THE hot hatch to have....
Fair play. In all the mags the Williams always does well.
GabrielKnight
21-01-2010, 21:55
It's all here:
http://dennis.cerosmedia.com/1W4b547033153a2462.cde
Carole Anne
21-01-2010, 22:01
:thumbsup: (how good is that prog!)
Surprisingly lots of love for the Willy on CS and not their usual kind of willy love if you know what I mean.
its legen 'and i hope your not lactose intolerant cos here it is' dary! sorry had to do it lol.
:lol: Yes it had do be done, you are ..... AWESOME........ as is the Willy.
Even if your not into hot hatches,the willys is a good looking motor from all angles...........i thought the 5 did well, obviously im not biased :roll:
:thumbsup: (how good is that prog!)
Surprisingly lots of love for the Willy on CS and not their usual kind of willy love if you know what I mean.
Yea! I am surprised we don't have more haters, though I didn't do my usual trick of being inflammatory to the shit-car owners with all their driver aids. If I had that would have set them off lol :D
It's now the day after. Just want to say:
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!
I'm amazed that the Citroen Visa GTI is always omitted from these car mag surveys. They were essentially a 205 GTI, same engine, running gear ect, just had a different shell. Granted they looked like a shed but I owned one years ago and christ it was good, poss better than the 205 as it was lighter. Maybe a bit too obscure and unknown for these surveys though...
Not at all Tommo . worth mentioning :wink:
ThRaXaIR
22-01-2010, 22:26
It's now the day after. Just want to say:
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!
haha they get so wound up dont they!! lol
BTW im Jingo on CS, there my secrets out... :oops:
Whatever happened to the "lancia evo" ?? :shock: nice little hatch back.
Whatever happened to the "lancia evo" ?? :shock: nice little hatch back.
I think they deliberately didn't put the big heavier cars with turbo's there. Personally I think the Lancia is a different kettle of fish.
LOL my thread got locked on Cliosport...surprrrriiiiisssseee!!
LEIGH-ANNE
25-01-2010, 21:05
im missing out on soooo many arguments by not venturing onto other sites arent i lol
ThRaXaIR
25-01-2010, 21:14
im missing out on soooo many arguments by not venturing onto other sites arent i lol
there dicks mainly wouldnt worry to much, the only thing i go on there for is to look at the for sale thread.
Some are total cocks, some are fine. There's a real mix. I knew my post would bring a few whiners and fags out of the woodwork.
'BOOHOOO' my Clio 197 didn't winds WAAAAHHH WAHHHHH!!! I WANT MOMMY!'
oh dear..........lmao
u should know mate......newest is best innit.
:roll:
To be fair it did go slightly off topic lol!
I didn't see a problem with what most people posted tbh.
It was only locked as a few people took liberties toward the end and took it very far off topic.
ThRaXaIR
25-01-2010, 22:03
anyone got a link for it? or has it been totally deleted? i havent read it for a couple of days
Page 2 or 3 of Clio discussion.
ThRaXaIR
25-01-2010, 22:34
yeh couldnt see it thought it had been removed.
omg i been reading page 8,9 and 10. it jsut gets funnier, 2live you are a man posessed but my fave part was wobbas.......
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danmalone1999 View Post
If it's registered with the DVLA, you have equitable use, but the government own it.
To submit (bend to the will of) an application (begging letter) of registration (to hand legal ownership to).
Legal definitions in brackets for you.
Oh dear, looks like the government own your cars.
There's hope for you all yet then! Just hand the keys back to the Government, ask for your money back and buy a REAL mans car...TEH WILLYAMS!
you nutter. :P
LEIGH-ANNE
25-01-2010, 22:38
hahaha dan u little bitch u.... :lol:
High ****ing five
Carole Anne
25-01-2010, 22:41
I didn't see a problem with what most people posted tbh.
It was only locked as a few people took liberties toward the end and took it very far off topic.
:oops:
Consider yourself told you naughty naughty people.
Was funny though :lol:
Fav post .....
Originally Posted by SBV116 View Post
PMSL at that list, sorry! But woo i am 3rd......... How much had they smoked before picking!??!?
2 live said..........
in the williams......probably all the others in the list
haha! ;)
You know, I don't have anything against any other Clio's, they are great cars, I just can't stop myself posting shit on CS though as so many have had a sense of humour bypass!
Must suck to have your spanking brand new 200 beaten in a national magazine by a rusty old shed.
lol^^^^^ my sentiments exactly
if they werent so anal it wouldnt be funny.
yes i like the williams, but best car EVER...i think not lol.
where the fuk do they get their ideas from??
2 Live....winding up CockSport since 2001 ;)
It's not just that the Williams is an amazing drivers car and feels special, it looks stunning imo, (although dated now, I like retro!) it's exclusive, has history, the list goes on. It turns heads, all the others just don't do anything for me, they don't stand out, I couldn't imagine anyone asking about a 172/182 on a petrol station forecourt, perhaps maybe a V6, but it's hardly in the same category. I had someone offer to buy mine in a traffic jam on the M6 a few years ago, it's never happened in any other car I have owned and I couldn't imagine that happening with any of the other Clios. I do like the Trophy though, been in Jamies loads of times, but still doesn't stand out enough for me, still a bit too common and they should have beefed it up a bit like they did with the williams
I like the Trophy too, the looks however are not daring enough for it to really stand out. The blue/gold of the Williams is easier to identify
MatrixGuy
26-01-2010, 18:42
It's not just that the Williams is an amazing drivers car and feels special, it looks stunning imo, (although dated now, I like retro!) it's exclusive, has history, the list goes on. It turns heads, all the others just don't do anything for me, they don't stand out, I couldn't imagine anyone asking about a 172/182 on a petrol station forecourt, perhaps maybe a V6, but it's hardly in the same category. I had someone offer to buy mine in a traffic jam on the M6 a few years ago, it's never happened in any other car I have owned and I couldn't imagine that happening with any of the other Clios. I do like the Trophy though, been in Jamies loads of times, but still doesn't stand out enough for me, still a bit too common and they should have beefed it up a bit like they did with the williams
Very true. It would probably happen in a V6 but that is a £10k+ supercar.
I once had a guy taking photos of my car at a petrol station a couple of years back :D
That's it, you're ****ing paying for pool tonight Mr Thompson! ;)
However, no one has ever asked about my car at a petrol station and I can see what you mean about it not standing out as much as the Williams. But, it's very difficult to make a car stand out as much as that when it was so "contrasty".
I know no one will agree, but imo the Trophy is a better car. It handles better and as standard is quicker. However, what it doesn't have is the same feeling. For a Clio it's odd to say it, but it does have a sense of occassion (the Williams) when driven. I think it's because it was so bespoke. The only car I can really think of which has or will have that same feeling is/are: Ford Focus RS mk1, Escort Cosworth. The Trophy is sort of lifeless in that sense, has no real personality. The Trophy is epic fun and will defy what you think possible. When thrashing it, it will really put a smile on your face, however that's it. You have to be going like **** and using it what it was made for to get that sense of pleasure and with a Williams you don't really have to do that. You can just drive along.
If I was having two cars then potentially I would be having a Williams and something else. But when it's just the one it won't ever be. I would discuss these reasons but having read various replies in the CS thread I don't think it would be, more a "you're wrong" reply so I won't bother.
No offence to 1*2 owners, but I cant tell the difference between them or the standard poverty spec ones unless I see the 182 twin exhausts at the back.
Pulled up at some lights on the way home the other day, and a couple of guys pulled along side in a nice MR2. Bloke opens window and shouts something like 'Is that a WILLIAMS!?' I say ye, they both give me the thumbs up and yell 'its ******* lovely mate!! Rare as rockin' horse shit!', big grins on their faces. I said something complimentary about their MR2 in return. Made me smile :)
You wont get that with a 1*2.
ThRaXaIR
26-01-2010, 22:20
i got a 172 as my daily driver. and they are lovely cars, the willy is def best used as the track car. and also if your 6 foot 7 the 172 seats are comfier and better for long journeys. :P
so i LOVE both, very capable and a hoot!
i got a 172 as my daily driver. and they are lovely cars, the willy is def best used as the track car. and also if your 6 foot 7 the 172 seats are comfier and better for long journeys. :P
so i LOVE both, very capable and a hoot!
I know you are bloody tall. I am 5' 8". Little cars for meeee! Daily driver would be good, I agree. Are they money pits though? I will need a second car at some stage.
ThRaXaIR
26-01-2010, 22:46
yep big deep endless money pits..... particular sorepoint at the minute, 2 weeks after the willy mot saga, the 172 failed yesterday and cost 250 to put right and i still need a new windscreen or repair it.... sucks a big one. my girlfriend is not amused about the amount of money ive sunk into my cars this month. we could of gone on holiday instead apparently. lol
1995clio16v
27-01-2010, 00:58
I think all these plantpot Clio 172/182/197 owners are totally missing the point. Their car cannot be put into best hot hatch of all time due to it being allbeit a couple of years old.
Things have moved on crazily within the car world in the last 15 years, and for a Williams to be still in the mix with modern hatches 15 years on shows what a CLASS car it is.
A trophy for example will only be able to be taken into consideration when it has stood the test of time. It was a review on best hot hatch of ''ALL TIME'', not within the last 2 years.
We'll see how the trophies and 172's etc fair in 15 years time against the hot hatch world then. Thats when they will have stood the test of time and be able to be considered on of the best.
the 5 GT Turbo is in the top ten yeeeey :D
i'm proud of my 5's with valver engines :)
talkingfish
27-01-2010, 16:30
I also own a 197 and am ashamed to be associated with some of the owners on that site.... The 197 is a very good modern hot hatch, it is fast, comfortable and safe... I thoroughly enjoy drving it but in terms of pure driving pleasure it is not a patch on my Williams.
no mate........surely not.
the newer clios are FAR superior..they must be...the cocksport sheep say so ;)
MatrixGuy
27-01-2010, 19:24
I also own a 197 and am ashamed to be associated with some of the owners on that site.... The 197 is a very good modern hot hatch, it is fast, comfortable and safe... I thoroughly enjoy drving it but in terms of pure driving pleasure it is not a patch on my Williams.
That just sums everything up.......amen. lol :lol:
I think the "5" has a sense of occasion,if its standard trim,an lowered enough to look cool........williams an r5.......iconic cars 8)
Carole Anne
27-01-2010, 22:47
I think the "5" has a sense of occasion,if its standard trim,an lowered enough to look cool........williams an r5.......iconic cars 8)
:clap: :imwithstupidup:
the raiders and earlier gordinis are ace. like lots. just a shame they suffer from the lack of age old french corrosion protectiveness
still fancy a drive in a 5 - i would like a nice phase 1 or raider
I think the "5" has a sense of occasion,if its standard trim,an lowered enough to look cool........williams an r5.......iconic cars 8)
Fookin loved my 5 Raider. I'd say I had more of a laugh in that than all the jap cars I ever owned, though they were all faster and safer.
still fancy a drive in a 5 - i would like a nice phase 1 or raider
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1456409.htm
Knock him down a bit, and voila! New top class project.
If it were near me I'd pick it up tomorrow, stick some copper brake lines on and send it off for MOT :)
fasterthanjesus
28-01-2010, 11:15
5gt was a hoot. more fun than the williams, but it attracted too much heat. and was broken into twice.
5gt was a hoot. more fun than the williams, but it attracted too much heat. and was broken into twice.
It may be that I was just insane and reckless back then, but yes, I would say for me at the time, it was more fun than my Williams. Back then I didn't give a shit and ragged about like a loon, if I was like that now and my Willy less precious to me I would probably have just as much fun...BUT I remember at the time selling my valver thinking how much more fun the R5 was compared to it. It's the boost you see....it's addictive!
My bro had a standard mint tungsten grey R5 many moons ago, I loved the boost and it was very fast, handled like a turd though lol!
Honestly Tommo,if they are set up right they handle brilliantly "like s**t to a shovel" :lol: ....my sons was superb,but it was on coilovers,60mm drop,an runnin triple 8.s on 13" rims......ive said it before an ille say it again "scared me s**tless" :wink:
Thanks Carole,.......i think i like the "stupid" bit........its nice to be pigeon holed. :wink:
Carole Anne
28-01-2010, 20:09
Thanks Carole,.......i think i like the "stupid" bit........its nice to be pigeon holed. :wink:
hehe well it takes one to know one doesn't it :D
I need a 5 in my life.
1995clio16v
29-01-2010, 18:09
Theres a 5 near me, in white. Looks clean.
Looks VERY dated though!
LEIGH-ANNE
29-01-2010, 18:58
Looks VERY dated though!
dat iiis guuuud yaaaaa? :wink:
1995clio16v
29-01-2010, 20:12
Looks VERY dated though!
dat iiis guuuud yaaaaa? :wink:
Yaaaaa-ish! If you think they maybe did them on a H as the last plate and then you compare them to a 16v/Williams, just shows how dated they do look! Clio's have dated nowhere near as much!
Its always gets a second look from me tho! Always the sign of a classic! The old second look! :wink:
talkingfish
29-01-2010, 21:08
you've got to remember that the Mk2 Renault 5 first was introduced in 1984... that's along time ago... only a few cars from around that time have dates well.. I'm thinking Pug 205 Gti and Mk2 Golk Gti for instance... I agree that the Clio has aged well...
Yes its true,when they drew the "5"......curves hadnt been invented :lol:
designed by etch-a-sketch 8)
1995clio16v
29-01-2010, 22:37
you've got to remember that the Mk2 Renault 5 first was introduced in 1984...
Thats a great point actually, because its like comparing a 1996 16v/Willy to a 172 mark1!!! So maybe I was being a bit harsh on the old 5!
LEIGH-ANNE
29-01-2010, 22:53
first was introduced in 1984... that's along time ago...
Was only 26 years ago....not that long :wink: :cry:
must admit. i prefer the earlier 5s to the later mk2 models more rounded. who said there were no curves back then??? lol
There werent any curves , they just blunted the ends.
volymmannen
31-01-2010, 18:51
Jesus they need to get some of those facts right!
8 grand value! 1.7 16v!!! :lol:
well 1,764
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.