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1995clio16v
08-11-2009, 17:40
Right, Im starting a thread up to ask about/you guys to advise me on things as I go along on the old project.
Better than clogging up the pictures section! :D 8)
Is this the oil temp thingy? And is this the right connection on the end? Bit Im holding? Only reason I ask is the F7R i acquired, the person that removed it pretty much snipped all the wires and nothing is in tact bar maybe this one.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio_16v_800/Temperature.jpg
Is this normal for a 10 year old motor!? Check the shite out from the water pump! Didnt tatse very nice! :D :shock:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio_16v_800/Waterpump.jpg
Is this wear normal? :shock:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio_16v_800/Crankshaft.jpg
Justin..
08-11-2009, 18:01
That sensor is oil pressure
:shock: is the any side to side play in the crank???
never seen the inside of the bottom end looking like its burnt before :?
i thought that sensor did both pressure and temp on clios ??
Justin..
08-11-2009, 18:28
no the temp is on the same as oil level
MatBrown
08-11-2009, 19:58
As above, that sensor is for oil pressure, oil level and temp is on the front of the block.
The built up sludge is normal, but shouldn't be! :P people tend to neglect the coolant change intervals. As for the taste, you should have tried it with some Marmite, that would have distracted you!
Doesn't look like wear on the crank, more like a machining from factory balancing, hard to tell from the pic.
Mat.
As above, that sensor is for oil pressure, oil level and temp is on the front of the block.
Mat.
how many pins on clio oil level sensor ?
MatBrown
08-11-2009, 20:08
Three without looking.
They are different to 19 ones.
Mat.
Three without looking.
They are different to 19 ones.
Mat.
cool ,have to put that on the xmas list along with clio
oil dials than :wink:
MatBrown
08-11-2009, 20:13
Strangely, i have a spare set here! :wink:
Mat.
Lovely neglected coolant system you have there! Dr Wobba recommends a major clean out :D
Strangely, i have a spare set here! :wink:
Mat.
ohh talk to me mr shafter :D
1995clio16v
11-11-2009, 16:20
Lovely neglected coolant system you have there! Dr Wobba recommends a major clean out :D
Aye, It will be getting a very good clean.
Im gonna try some vinegar on all me small plates and bits and bobs. Read it on here its decent thing to use. WHITE vinegar apparently after doing internet research. Brown no good, i.e table vinegar.
See how bits come up.
8)
Clio_GTT
11-11-2009, 17:06
Lovely neglected coolant system you have there! Dr Wobba recommends a major clean out :D
Aye, It will be getting a very good clean.
Im gonna try some vinegar on all me small plates and bits and bobs. Read it on here its decent thing to use. WHITE vinegar apparently after doing internet research. Brown no good, i.e table vinegar.
See how bits come up.
8)
Don't leave it on too long it'll eat away the metal
1995clio16v
11-11-2009, 20:12
^^ Really? Can be that agressive?
I may try a couple of bits 1st then to see what happens!
My dog needs a good wash! Lol!
:D
1995clio16v
14-11-2009, 16:35
Is it possible to tell from looking at the bores if theyre badly damaged? May seem a daft question.
And
The rings, how do you tell if these are knackered? Is this apparent from damage to bores?
Im going to replace these anyway, thats if you can buy them from Renault! Wouldnt surprise me if you cant get them! :shock:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/BlockExp.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Cylinder1.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Cylinder2.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Cylinder3.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Cylinder4.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Pistons.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Cshaft.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Cshaft1.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Cshaft2.jpg
:D
1995clio16v
23-01-2010, 23:47
Just a quick one. Can I remove the dipstick housing? Full thing?
Had a go with a coupla bashes with a hammer, but didnt seem to budge...
Dont fancy sending it away sticking out. No ****er looks after anything.
Sticking out the back there...
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Blocka.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Block.jpg
yes you can remove them, just there a tight fit! i had to replace mine as it got caught when the engine was in the same state as yours in pic, was unrepairable so had to buy a new one myslf
1995clio16v
24-01-2010, 00:16
Cool! Cheers!
Will start a project thread up soon.
Got the subframe off today too.
Couldnt be arsed doin anything over last 5 weeks with weather.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Subframea.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Subframe.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Subframeb.jpg
robi1000
24-01-2010, 00:32
Looking at the pics I'd say there are some scratches on the bores. If they are not too deep you can sort that by rehoning the bores. You can also check for excessive wear by sliding your finger nail up the bore from inside out. At the top of the block (brown coloured area at the top) there's an area where piston rings never run. Check with nail if there's a big difference. If you want to go pro, you should check it out with micrometer for clearences and roundness of the bores. If it's out, you can always rebore it on 83mm which is first standard rebore size.
Cheers
Robi
1995clio16v
24-01-2010, 00:43
Hi,
Yep, thanks. Im taking it to me local mans garage in the week to get the micrometer put on it. Will then take it from there.
:D
1995clio16v
30-01-2010, 16:39
Keep hearing about it being a good idea to weld the steering column.
Which is the bit that requires welding? Over my head this one.
This....or further up, do I need to remove the thing completely...?
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/Racka.jpg
Justin..
30-01-2010, 16:43
its inside the car the bit that people weld
1995clio16v
30-01-2010, 16:44
its inside the car the bit that people weld
Do i need to remove it or can it be done from inside?
Justin..
30-01-2010, 16:44
I did mine with it still in the car
1995clio16v
30-01-2010, 16:50
I did mine with it still in the car
Can you post me a picture up please when you get chance or if you have one to hand. Or anyone else...
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/123maxiboy/415d66f1.jpg
there you go..
1995clio16v
30-01-2010, 19:17
^^
Excellent! Thanks! 8)
1995clio16v
28-02-2010, 17:18
Im trying to get this below arrangement unbolted from itself.
I really cannot get my head round the way these technicians design these cars. Why didnt they just make that bracket bolt on like every other part on the car. I could then just have it all hanging down.
The bits that should be bolted on they dont do it, then the bits that shouldnt be bolted on, they bolt on! :evil:
Anyway, I think Im trying to remove the right bit/nut? That 11mm nut, well its duly rounded itself which I think is common thing. Ive read somewhere on here about removing this nut but no idea where the thread is. I think northy was going on about some specific tool....
Ive tried some stilsons on it but the ones I have are too big. Any other way of getting this off?
I need to get it off to be able to pull the brake lines away inside the bay. Plus Im going 172 calipers and widetrack so they need to come off eventually.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/calipernut.jpg
That, my friend, is a brake union. They are the mother of all fukups and are made of soft cheese. Dont even bother trying with a normal 11mm open spanner, it WILL round off. You need a brake union spanner.
You need to clean that area, don't want dirt in your brake lines.
With the union spanner you MAY be lucky and it comes off, be really gentle.
Personally, before you attempt it I would get new unions, and consider a brake line flaring kit for a tenner as well:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w102/barneywobba/Williams%20217/DSC01513.jpg
1995clio16v
28-02-2010, 18:55
Any idea where I can get one of these spanners? Just googled it but all forum talk that comes up, no online shops........had a quick peek at machine mart but their search is useles.............
1995clio16v
28-02-2010, 18:57
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Draper-Brake-Fuel-Pipe-Flare-Nut-Spanner-10mm-x-11mm_W0QQitemZ130367475942QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ha nd_Tools_Equipment?hash=item1e5a81d0e6
^^^ ????
katbloke
28-02-2010, 19:08
http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/sp-2-11813-92772-sealey-brake-service-spanner-set-6pc.asp
full set however you can get individual ones
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Draper-Brake-Fuel-Pipe-Flare-Nut-Spanner-10mm-x-11mm_W0QQitemZ130367475942QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ha nd_Tools_Equipment?hash=item1e5a81d0e6
^^^ ????
That ought to do it :)
1995clio16v
28-02-2010, 19:15
http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/sp-2-11813-92772-sealey-brake-service-spanner-set-6pc.asp
full set however you can get individual ones
Cheers! :o
1995clio16v
28-02-2010, 19:16
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Draper-Brake-Fuel-Pipe-Flare-Nut-Spanner-10mm-x-11mm_W0QQitemZ130367475942QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ha nd_Tools_Equipment?hash=item1e5a81d0e6
^^^ ????
That ought to do it :)
Did you just end up chopping yours off and using the flaring tool to stick an extra length on? Is this the usual thing....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Draper-Brake-Fuel-Pipe-Flare-Nut-Spanner-10mm-x-11mm_W0QQitemZ130367475942QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ha nd_Tools_Equipment?hash=item1e5a81d0e6
^^^ ????
That ought to do it :)
Did you just end up chopping yours off and using the flaring tool to stick an extra length on? Is this the usual thing....
If you cant get the union off, then yea. You need to replace the brake hose as well.
I generally put the hose in the calliper first and have it all nice and set first.
Cut the pipe with a small hacksaw just above the union to keep as much length as you can, make it as straight a cut as you can, put drip tray under the inevitable spillage, slot the new union on, get flaring tool on...can be a tight fit...carefully flare pipe so the pipe lips cover the end of the union. Remove flare tool. Slot new union through tension clip. Slot new hose up through bulkhead mount and, making sure you DO NOT THREAD IT (like I did lol) screw the union into the hose until as tight as you dare.
Bleed brakes.
Done.
personally...id renew the whole pipe. keeps them all the same length then, and theres nowt worse than putting new unions on and discovering the front-rear pipes fail on mot....might as well renew the whole lot tbh. its not expensive to do.
and as for cutting with a hacksaw....lol......pipe cutters are like a quid or summat and garaunteed to get a nice even straight cut. just remember to run a file round the inside of the pipe to get rid of any burrs.
Hacksaw worked for me when I had no choice...10pm pissing down with rain and in the dark on the side of a road in the middle of no where...usual scenario :D
Yes if your putting brake lines out of way id snip em off.....after draining b/fluid........an buy new components,not that expensive.
Hacksaw worked for me when I had no choice...10pm pissing down with rain and in the dark on the side of a road in the middle of no where...usual scenario :D
u had a flaring tool with u but no pipe cutter??? they shud go hand in hand with each other....like having a breaker bar but no socket ;)
1995clio16v
28-02-2010, 23:21
Theres some dude on clio16valver who has renewed the whole lot using
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MSPORT&pcode=S/CHCP316
I dont know whether to go down this route or not, or dont know what im letting myself in for........
do it mate......replace the lot for like £40. whack a load of grease on em n forget bout em for a few years.
Jon loves to forget things for years........then cries like a great girl when the car reminds him again :wink: :lol:
lol......iv forgotten what they are like to drive tbh.....clutch has just turned up for 0159...so maybe il be reminded soon ;)
1995clio16v
05-03-2010, 23:50
Im trying to remove the rear piston caliper assembly.....
I had a quick look tonight and by my reckoning;
Undo the union nut - red circle
Undo the bolt through the back of the shock at the bottom - blue circle
Should then come away..is this correct? Anything I need to be careful of?
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/bearcalipermarked.jpg
1995clio16v
28-03-2010, 17:10
Do I need to be overly concerned about this or is it normal?
Seems to be showing splines at one end (left side), non on the other side.... :?
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa134/northern_imports/Clio16v_900Plus/centretorsionbar.jpg
katbloke
28-03-2010, 21:10
undo the brake pipe yes, the bolt you refer to is already undone, need to retract handbrake cable and knock it out also if you havent done it alredy
spray wd40 on the threads a few days before you try undo them as this well help, also a little bit of heat can work wonders
1995clio16v
29-03-2010, 09:14
Got the rear brakes of ages ago.
It more the rear beam I was referring to, maybe thats normal? Threads showing?
they can show, i very much doubt they will move now leigh - they will have rusted in solid
The splines that are showing are fine, but if you are concerned you can probably force them on further.
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