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i heard rumours you were running turbo on a standard
f7p engine (standard compression ratio ) ??
TALK TO ME !! :P
no mate :lol:
it used to run 9.0:1 on standard pistons and a 1.6mm headgasket, that was as close to standard comp as it got
no runs wossener low comp and the 1.6mm gasket for about 8.0-8.5:1
ahh i see ,rumours were ghey indeed :?
any ideas what sort of boost you can run on standard c/r
without detonating the mofo ? 1psi ? :D
As you know Evran ,on my f3p im runnin, 8.4:1 an can boost up to 14psi
And it goes like the "s**t off a shovel..........well it would if i hadnt got this bloody oil leak :lol:
As you know Evran ,on my f3p im runnin, 8.4:1 an can boost up to 14psi
And it goes like the "s**t off a shovel..........well it would if i hadnt got this bloody oil leak :lol:
is this the one in the 5 your lad sold ?? :D
i am talking 10.5:1 c/r though col , can i run any boost on it ?
volymmannen
17-09-2009, 19:48
As you know Evran ,on my f3p im runnin, 8.4:1 an can boost up to 14psi
And it goes like the "s**t off a shovel..........well it would if i hadnt got this bloody oil leak :lol:
is this the one in the 5 your lad sold ?? :D
i am talking 10.5:1 c/r though col , can i run any boost on it ?
its 10:1
volymmannen
17-09-2009, 19:51
and i think you can
http://www.engine-dynamics.com/epages/es118981.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es118981_shop/Products/%22Clio%20Sport%20172%20/%20182%20Turbo%20Conversion%22
don't know how high boost they use but its 11:1 instead of 10:1 so little more should work on a F7P/R
i remmber this coming up before, someone waqs running 7psi on completely standard engine
10.0 : 1 indeed , my bad .
7 psi on a standard engine would equate to about 50% power
drop a bit for heat and s.h.i.t losses and say 50bhp on top sounds like
a plan to me .
whats special with "turbo spec spark plugs" ? what could be used on a f7p with similar conversion ?
also am i right thinking the standard ecu could be mapped to run this with
bigger injectors and a turbo map sensor ?
standard ecu will do it, the plugs run hotter.
volymmannen
17-09-2009, 20:34
10.0 : 1 indeed , my bad .
7 psi on a standard engine would equate to about 50% power
drop a bit for heat and s.h.i.t losses and say 50bhp on top sounds like
a plan to me .
whats special with "turbo spec spark plugs" ? what could be used on a f7p with similar conversion ?
also am i right thinking the standard ecu could be mapped to run this with
bigger injectors and a turbo map sensor ?
i think the sparkplugs i same type of plugs but a different heatrange.
yes
http://www.engine-dynamics.com/epages/es118981.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es118981_shop/Products/%22Clio%20/%2019%201.8%2016v%20Turbo%20Chip%20210%20BHP%22
Justin..
17-09-2009, 20:57
NGK BCR8-ES Sparkplugs are the plugs you need
can run the fastchips low boost chip and simply run the actuator to 7psi, it will fuel fine i would of thought but can get that checked anyway
can run the fastchips low boost chip and simply run the actuator to 7psi, it will fuel fine i would of thought but can get that checked anyway
so i dont even need to get it mapped on a dyno ??
any ideas where i can get the fastchips low boost chip from ?
no the chip should work out the box so long as you fit 21 turbo injectors and map sensor
it wont be perfect but it will be safe, have the fuelling checked though to be sure tho mate
few of the low boost chips float about on ebay, and sometimes crop up on the forums
new they are about 200 quid from engine dynamics, although its possible to buy direct from fastchips, but i cant get hold of them so they may of gone under?
no the chip should work out the box so long as you fit 21 turbo injectors and map sensor
it wont be perfect but it will be safe, have the fuelling checked though to be sure tho mate
few of the low boost chips float about on ebay, and sometimes crop up on the forums
new they are about 200 quid from engine dynamics, although its possible to buy direct from fastchips, but i cant get hold of them so they may of gone under?
ayee 21 turbo map sensor and injectors will be there 8)
any ideas what sort of power increase would come with this ?
regarding the chip would it not run much better if i get the
car mapped on rollers which would cost around £300
unless of course i find the chip much cheaper .
i'd be tempted to get a proper map yes, but 300 is cheap tbh, most quotes i've had for standard management maps are 450 odd
i'd be tempted to get a proper map yes, but 300 is cheap tbh, most quotes i've had for standard management maps are 450 odd
just noticed the lowest boost chip on engine dynamics website is for 9 psi
and even that says you got to run lower c/r (9.0:1 )
still confused , can this work on standard c/r or not :?
i am taking the 9 of the road soon (no i am not buying a clio :))
for some tlc which includes extra powahh .
money is burning da pockets , i was allready torn between mat browns arse cheeks and the f7r conversion.
and now the idea of low boost ,low cost turbo on existing f7p :-k
HI Evran, noo.....this is my r5 (1794cc) not my lads which was normal(1397cc) ..ish :wink:
If a r5 runs about 7/8 psi on a 7.5 :1 std..(dont quote me) then a f7p should run 8/9 psi if you put a thicker gasket or sandwich plate on?
Justin..
18-09-2009, 10:35
just boost it till it breaks :D
ai on standard comp it should run fine, the chips have some leeway so on standard comp with lower psi should even out :wink:
suck and see, worst case it fuels shite and you have to swap head gasket, not massively expensive or hard to do 8)
fastchip has not gone under
they just dont return mails easily... just ring them and you'll get henk on the phone....
ai on standard comp it should run fine, the chips have some leeway so on standard comp with lower psi should even out :wink:
suck and see, worst case it fuels shite and you have to swap head gasket, not massively expensive or hard to do 8)
just been on the phone to engine dynamics , they say they are using
1/2 bar on standard c/r clio 172/182 with no detonation etc :D
so to get this straight the idea is the same with a supercharger ?
map sensor gets the pressure reading in the manifold and send it to
now the "turbo chipped" ecu , ecu tells the 21 turbo injectors how much fuel to inject at that time .
so i were to supercharge instead of turbo
i could still use the same turbo chip ?
one big question here though , i see there are a few turbo chips on team dynamics website for different boost levels etc .
say i am using the standard c/r low boost(7psi ) ,i would be going for the
9psi chip right . what if i buy the 14psi chip and still use it at 7 psi
with the idea i might decide to go low c/r high boost in the future ?
would that work am i being totally gahey here ? :gay:
fastchip has not gone under
they just dont return mails easily... just ring them and you'll get henk on the phone....
whats their website/contact details ?
Justin..
18-09-2009, 21:12
i wouldnt waste your time. unless you have a mk2 clio sport he doesnt seem interested in business from the country
fastchip has not gone under
they just dont return mails easily... just ring them and you'll get henk on the phone....
whats their website/contact details ?
http://www.fastchip.nl/
Fastchip
Multatulipad 58
Oud-Beijerland
Zuid-Holland
The Netherlands
3261SM
info@fastchip.nl
+31(0) 186613484 [+1 GMT]
fastchip has not gone under
they just dont return mails easily... just ring them and you'll get henk on the phone....
whats their website/contact details ?
http://www.fastchip.nl/
Fastchip
Multatulipad 58
Oud-Beijerland
Zuid-Holland
The Netherlands
3261SM
info@fastchip.nl
+31(0) 186613484 [+1 GMT]
tried ringing as well, no answer
if you can get me a 21psi chip mate i would really appreciate it. give me a pm and let me know as frankly i'm at the end of my tether with them, utterly shit customer service, baring in mind i'm a repeat customer, frankly i think its disgusting treatment but they offer the best prices, its a dilemma
if i'm correct henk is in the states on vacation right now.
there's a mapping session 17-10 so i assume he woll deff be in holland by then. i will contect it for you ro ask about deliverbillity and price and will get back to you.
i have to remap my car aswell so will be in contact with him coops.
i'll post up
fashchip have a room on cliosport, i asked about the chips and he said he doesnt do them anymore.
could not these chips be copied using blanks ?
donno he made a chip for me last april when i had to start my turbo..
so i will ask 4 u coops
busterhymes
20-09-2009, 13:09
pretty much any programmeable chip can be copied with the right equipment
donno he made a chip for me last april when i had to start my turbo..
so i will ask 4 u coops
cheers mate, most kind! keep me posted
donno he made a chip for me last april when i had to start my turbo..
so i will ask 4 u coops
so you will ask for coops but wont ask for me ?? :shock: :? :(
nice one mate
thats becuase i'm an agreeable character :wink:
thats becuase i'm an agreeable character :wink:
you mean you are a softy ?? :D
i agree :wink:
volymmannen
21-09-2009, 09:17
I think you get a better result with a aftermarket ECU instead of buying a turbochip to the stonehenge standard ECU.
donno he made a chip for me last april when i had to start my turbo..
so i will ask 4 u coops
so you will ask for coops but wont ask for me ?? :shock: :? :(
nice one mate
dont be jalouse i'll ask him for you too..
I think you get a better result with a aftermarket ECU instead of buying a turbochip to the stonehenge standard ECU.
course you will, but its all about the cost, chip can be had for few hundred pounds and i can sell the current one, so break even if i'm lucky
aftermarket stand alone is at the very least 1000 pounds to get setup and running properly
I think you get a better result with a aftermarket ECU instead of buying a turbochip to the stonehenge standard ECU.
course you will, but its all about the cost, chip can be had for few hundred pounds and i can sell the current one, so break even if i'm lucky
aftermarket stand alone is at the very least 1000 pounds to get setup and running properly
the chip you got now wont work right with a
low boost application right ?
it'll work, but it wont fuel correctly i wouldn't of thought, but the car would run on it
i ran the high boost internals when i fitted them with my old low boost chip while i was running engine in and waiting to afford new chip. no harm done
donno he made a chip for me last april when i had to start my turbo..
so i will ask 4 u coops
so you will ask for coops but wont ask for me ?? :shock: :? :(
nice one mate
dont be jalouse i'll ask him for you too..
i am not now ok :P
could you ask him ,if there is a chip that will allow me to use
the standard 10.0:1 compression ratio please ?
volymmannen
21-09-2009, 20:38
I think you get a better result with a aftermarket ECU instead of buying a turbochip to the stonehenge standard ECU.
course you will, but its all about the cost, chip can be had for few hundred pounds and i can sell the current one, so break even if i'm lucky
aftermarket stand alone is at the very least 1000 pounds to get setup and running properly
its a cost but if you get more power with less boost i think its worth the extra cost
it would be if i had a grand sat about fella, i dont :lol:
and i'm impatient :D
@ coops
pm me the spec's (incl map sensor and injectors ) of your car so i can give henk a ring tommorow.
@ schakal
same as above pm me the same info coops did asap. ^^^^
@ schakal
same as above pm me the same info coops did asap. ^^^^
done mate :D
@ coops & schakal
ive just got of the phone with henk (fastchip) he told me he doesn't do chips for the MK1 clio's anymore. what he told me was basicly he doesn't do anything for cars older then 10 years.
so i guess you will need to find someone in the UK that could make you the chip of copy a existing one.
coops & schakal
ive just got of the phone with henk (fastchip) he told me he doesn't do chips for the MK1 clio's anymore. what he told me was basicly he doesn't do anything for cars older then 10 years.
so i guess you will need to find someone in the UK that could make you a chip or copy a existing one.
nice of him to let me know in response to the emails i've sent, great customer service :roll:
surely he still has the damn maps kicking about, can't he just let us have them if he isn't going to be making a profit off them any more?
i know what you mean but seems like he really doesnt do them anymore.
the only thing we can do is that i'll check who i can find around here that can copy my chip 4 u.
Ill check around and let you know, can't promise nothing tho
coops & schakal
ive just got of the phone with henk (fastchip) he told me he doesn't do chips for the MK1 clio's anymore. what he told me was basicly he doesn't do anything for cars older then 10 years.
so i guess you will need to find someone in the UK that could make you a chip or copy a existing one.
thanks for asking anyway mate :D
ai mate, your a star for looking into it for us, most gentlemanly of you 8)
:twisted:
everything comes with a price coops, youll get the chance 2 make it up to em dont worry.... LoL
4 real i got the chip makers here but you guys has the engines there almost for free... im so jalouse.. F7r engines and gearboxes are so rare around here i'm thinkin of getting one for spare from there but need a cheap way to get it here.
help me out ..
:lol:
swings and roundabout mate, i can get hold of the chip but its through bbpt's new company, so its 200 odd quid rather than 120 odd that henk charged me for the last one :(
isnt there any person over there that can make you a chip for cheeper?
there must be man...
nope, i have someone who may be able to copy one but i need the chip to copy, i dont know anyone over here whos running the 21psi chip, turbo converted valvers are few and far between, or at least owners arent on the forums :?
i get it..
drive down here you can copy mine,...
:lol: thanks for the offer matey but its little bit of a trek, meet you in amsterdam? :wink:
plus neither of us know anyone who can copy, i'll just have to save up for a proper map i think :D
busterhymes
24-09-2009, 09:43
i can get em copied :wink: and no charge if we have the chips
right, this could work..................out of the goodness of your heart mr dhay, would you be willing to lend me the chip to get it copied? i will pay for insured and tracked delivery in both directions?
I use the car everyday mate,
I think i know someone over here that might be able to copy it.. let me ask him first this way i wont mis my car...
ah, right, didnt realise! clio turbos dont tend to be everyday cars to most :wink:
cheers again for all your help and let me know if you have any success in finding someone to copy the chip! 8)
yeahh
i dont drive it long distances everyday but need to go to work...
ill let you know
i want a copy of both 15psi and 21psi chips! i have the 10psi one!
coops ill go half with you on the 21psi chip, if i end up with a copy of yours and the 21psi one
but you need be sure the chips arnt coded or password on them or anything!
anyone who want to have a go at copying my 10psi one is welcome, but i have sold it as a package to someone and the window is closing!
anyone who want to have a go at copying my 10psi one is welcome, but i have sold it as a package to someone and the window is closing!
i want a copy of that bad boy please :P
Thread revival.......
Schaks, i'm waiting on the chip from Midge. Then all i'll need is a R21 turbo map sensor & injectors, 2 one-way valves, a 1.6mm head gasket, then i'm good to go.
However, after reading through loads of posts and other stuff on the net, i'm unsure myself as whether or not to skim my pistons, or just put the 1.6mm head gasket in. I'd be hoping for at least 210bhp really if that was possible. I do plan on going high comp & forged at a later date, but funds can't allow that at the mo.
Are you still contemplating this conversion or you given up?!
I won't be starting mine for a few months yet, as i've got spinal surgery this thursday, so i'll be recovering for a couple of months at least :-(
at the moment i am delaying the turbo project as i allready have the bits to
go 2 litre 16v which i think is a more reliable option for track and daily drive. however i also have hoarded some bits for the turbo conversion :D (manifold , low boost chipped ecu , injectors,map sensor,dump valve )
the reason i choose n/a over turbo at the moment is simply because
i have not yet seen a decent running turbo conversion . they clearly
seem to be 2 minute wonder ,drag cars /trailer queens :gay:
i will eventually run the low boost turbo conversion on one of my
cars just to see for myself though :D
Fancy selling some of those parts schaks? As you've chosen N/A! :)
Just need a few bits to finish off my shopping list now!
Fancy selling some of those parts schaks? As you've chosen N/A! :)
Just need a few bits to finish off my shopping list now!
HELL NO !!
i did not chose n/a ,i am a bit *B-curious at the moment :wink:
*B= BOOST :D
lol, it was worth a try wasn't it though!!!
Just need manifold, turbo map sensor and injectors, then i've pretty much got everything apart from a few rebuild parts and couple of little things.
I'll find them somewhere!
lol, it was worth a try wasn't it though!!!
Just need manifold, turbo map sensor and injectors, then i've pretty much got everything apart from a few rebuild parts and couple of little things.
I'll find them somewhere!
cheapest around
http://www.engine-dynamics.com/epages/es118981.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es118981_shop/Products/%22Clio%20/%2019%201.9%2016v%20and%202.0%20Williams%20Turbo%2 0Manifold%22
^^ i really should read what i've already posted!!!
REPOST!!!!! :lol:
Yeah i'm gonna get one of them BB manifolds at one point. Why do they sell them so cheap now, considering what they used to sell them for, and what k-tec sell them for now???
I'm just on the lookout for cheaper parts for the time being. Once car is up and running i'll be slowly upgrading bits as i go.
Yeah i'm gonna get one of them BB manifolds at one point. Why do they sell them so cheap now, considering what they used to sell them for, and what k-tec sell them for now???
I'm just on the lookout for cheaper parts for the time being. Once car is up and running i'll be slowly upgrading bits as i go.
FALSE ECONOMY FAIL ^^^
:P
Yes i know, but i want a turbo asap not in a years time!!!!!!!! :lol:
It's alright now anyhow Schaks - just managed to get a map sensor and injectors off the R21 turbo forum like i see you did!!!
Only the manifold to go, then i've got all the major stuff!!! Ooooo i'm starting to get excited!!!
good luck with it mate ,keep us posted :P
Aye i will mate - when i can get started. Just had spinal surgery 3 days ago and am stuck on the sofa or in bed all day for now! Can't bloody wait to get up and started on it though!
Dhay14 ? Dhayrone ?
Custom fastchip maps are still possible, drop me pm if you're interested. No timewasters please. Prices between 300, max 400 € all included (Map/chip/dynotime).
Take place in Goes, Tovami dynojetcenter, Netherlands. Whe have one coming up early 2010 with some UK 21 turbo's.
Just had spinal surgery 3 days ago and am stuck on the sofa or in bed all day for now!
just out of interest, what have they done exactly ?
phil21turbo
05-12-2009, 01:06
Hi All,
I personally have had my car mapped by henk more than once. I'm heading out to Holland in Jan 2010 for a mapping & RR session.
Totally recommend going, and Holland is not as far as you may think. Once off the tunnel in calais, its 2-3hrs max.
I just come back from Holland/belgioum, and it took 2 hrs top get from Clais to Antwerp. Henk is approx 40 minutes east of Antwerp
It's a good opportunity to meet with some like minded europeans, who live & breath Renault
:wink:
Dhay14 ? Dhayrone ?
Custom fastchip maps are still possible, drop me pm if you're interested. No timewasters please. Prices between 300, max 400 € all included (Map/chip/dynotime).
Take place in Goes, Tovami dynojetcenter, Netherlands. Whe have one coming up early 2010 with some UK 21 turbo's.
Mp'ed
got it, tought it was you :lol:
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