coilovers vs standard / discussione das epic

[schakal]

when you look at standard struts on a clio the bottom cup mount has
an angle which in turn the spring does not sit in a flat manner but on coilovers in general both top and bottom coil mounts are sitting perfectly flat.
now my question is , does this not cause a change in the geometry of the car , how it sits on the front suspension and how it steers etc ?

this is obviously not only for clios only ,i can see most mc pherson type
suspension systems being affected by this ,if there is a problem of course ??

DISCUSS :P

[MatBrown]

Does it not just mean the spring is sitting at a different angle?
The struts are still bolted in the same place.


Mat.

[MatBrown]

Also the springs on Coilovers tend to be flat at teh top and bottom whereas the standard springs still 'coil'.


Mat.

[bbaazz-08]

yes strut is all the one bolted up so spring movement shoudnt affect geometry atall

[schakal]

i see what you are saying ,here are a few more thoughts
i want to throw in

at the strut assembly the bottom coil cup is welded at a specific position in relation to the bottom mounting bracket .they always stay at that position when the car is steered . this angle and position has got to do something with something otherwise it would not be different in every other car i checked .

ok , the bottom mounting locates the strut at the bottom but especially
on a clio the top of the strut top mount is not actually bolted to the
turrets , which does allow movement at the top in return moving the bottom
of the strut ,which passes it on to the hub hence pulling/pushing it ??

[MatBrown]

The top of the strut is located with the weight of the car pushing down on the mounting rubber.


Mat.

[Justin..]

Aye^ The rubber donut is a good fit to the tower not giving any movement other than the strut turning on the bearing

[schakal]

"rubber" and "not giving any movement" does not sound right used
in the same sentence but i have never driven a clio hence i will take your
word for it :wink: