View Full Version : Can you sort the rust out yourself?
MatrixGuy
17-01-2009, 19:47
I had my right rear arch sorted last year but now it's creeping back and the left rear arch is getting worse now too.
Could i have a go at sorting it myself or is it best not too? I want to try it as i dont have the funds too pay a bodyshop to do it. :cry:
I also want to de-rust and paint my chassis.
surely it was not sorted if the rust is creeping back this soon :roll:
take it back to whoever fooked it up and demand answers ,i would
Had my valvers arches repaired 3 months ago and the car is back at the bodyshop due to the rust bubbling back within 6 weeks!!!
I would take it back to the last place who did it and for them to repair it again at a very reasonable price!!
I love all these places that FIX your rust for a few quid.
I've been on the end of it once - lesson learnt. FACT to actually fix it for GOOD will cost money and will require more than a little skim and a bit of paint - so imo unless your handly with a welder and a sheet hammer no you can't fix it yourself.
u need to replace the panel with a weld in or a rear quarter to get rid of rust filler is no good will always come back save up the doe and do proper save spending little amounts for a quick fix
I love all these places that FIX your rust for a few quid.
I've been on the end of it once - lesson learnt. FACT to actually fix it for GOOD will cost money and will require more than a little skim and a bit of paint - so imo unless your handly with a welder and a sheet hammer no you can't fix it yourself.
or you have to go there and supervise the job .
i was doing 9-5 shifts in the local body shop cutting the
rust out ,removing trim parts etc for 4 days when i had the sills
replaced on the chamade :D
jobs a good un 8) 8)
ThRaXaIR
17-01-2009, 22:27
getting them properly fiber glassed should last a couple of yrs surely?
how much does new quarters cost to get done?
16v_paddy
17-01-2009, 22:32
Mine cost me £400 each to get done, but I was having the whole side painted and colour coded as well so should cost no more than that really
katbloke
17-01-2009, 22:59
i spent 1k including bonnet and t/gate spray
i had rust come back within 3-4 days of arch repair, got the car back from the spray shop, tucked it away in the garage, pulled it out after 2 days, washed it, put it back, next day,rust bubbles appearing!
car sold within a couple of days, so wasn't my problem any more, i imagine the atches have fallen off by now :shock:
i had rust come back within 3-4 days of arch repair, got the car back from the spray shop, tucked it away in the garage, pulled it out after 2 days, washed it, put it back, next day,rust bubbles appearing!
I know the feeling well mate :(
i had rust come back within 3-4 days of arch repair, got the car back from the spray shop, tucked it away in the garage, pulled it out after 2 days, washed it, put it back, next day,rust bubbles appearing!
car sold within a couple of days, so wasn't my problem any more, i imagine the atches have fallen off by now :shock:
No wonder they make so much money!
Mine cost me £400 each to get done, but I was having the whole side painted and colour coded as well so should cost no more than that really
whoa that was good then i thought the quaters were 350 each
can buy 1.2 rear quarters for like 50 quid and so long as its a decent bodyshop they can be altered to fit perfectly
16v_paddy
18-01-2009, 14:19
can buy 1.2 rear quarters for like 50 quid and so long as its a decent bodyshop they can be altered to fit perfectly
Thats what the gut who done mine used, even though they were labelled as 16v items :roll: they weren't the right shape
MatrixGuy
18-01-2009, 15:58
The car has already been back once!! lol. i had to go back as rust returned after about a month. He welded in a new plate but it looks like it's just returning!!
this car is driving me nuts!
anyone know DECENT places in the northwest where you can get them done or should i just grind the fooker down myself?!
fasterthanjesus
18-01-2009, 16:06
where did you go?
i always use trident in st annes. bob on repair, not cheap, but you pays peanuts, you gets monkeys.
can buy 1.2 rear quarters for like 50 quid and so long as its a decent bodyshop they can be altered to fit perfectly
Thats what the gut who done mine used, even though they were labelled as 16v items :roll: they weren't the right shape
If I'm being ultra picky when my lower spec panels were welded and adapted they did it really well until the very last bit where they should roll off into the back bumper - on mine they don't quite 'roll' properly - you'd have to have another willy next to it to even notice the difference mind - and I'd take that over rust any day of the week to be honest.
At first I was really peeved but then I thought with all the problems these cars have with rear arches how many willys and valvers must be running around on all different shapes and sized of rear arches!
I'll get a pic of what I mean when I get the car back.
ai would like to see this as i thought they could be modded fully, and if not then i'll ask for extra metal to be made up to fill it exact if and when the turbo needs some love
only decent one I can find for now - back end looks lower due to being parked on a steep drive
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/Daz0rz/Respray/SSL10935.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/Daz0rz/Respray/Photo-0021-1.jpg
Daz :wink:
Is that the LUND's job ??
I have just listed in the "cars for sale" a Willy 1 ~~ No 326 :wink: :wink:
The guy selling it has a small unit in Rishton and has done the arches with steel ~~ I got mates with him through a mate of a mate :wink: 8) :shock: :wink: .
If I need any painting body work etc etc ~~ that is were mine is going from now on :lol:
Lunds let me down really - I still need to take it over to them when I get it back from the garage - drove past today and its inside the shop so I reckon I'll get it back Tuedsday...
Hmmm - why does the phase 1 sides not look as good in pics as it does in the flesh!
Might swapt back to the phase 2's for a bit see how that goes..
MatrixGuy
19-01-2009, 18:22
where did you go?
i always use trident in st annes. bob on repair, not cheap, but you pays peanuts, you gets monkeys.
Not heard of them mate. I used Stellers in Morecambe, i liked the guy and he seemed good, so i went with him.
MatrixGuy
19-01-2009, 18:25
**** i meant Spellers.
rob-legend
19-01-2009, 19:55
whats the worst price i'd be looking at for both arches to be repaired and two new sills from the jacking point back? (one arch has a tiny spot,where as drivers side has bubbled badly and has come through the paint now around a third of the arch and onto the beginning of the sill) cheers. i'll post a pic of the arch up in a min
16v_paddy
19-01-2009, 20:01
whats the worst price i'd be looking at for both arches to be repaired and two new sills from the jacking point back? (one arch has a tiny spot,where as drivers side has bubbled badly and has come through the paint now around a third of the arch and onto the beginning of the sill) cheers. i'll post a pic of the arch up in a min
Worst case I'd say £500 per side at a guess
I'm only going on what mine cost, was originally quoted £400 a side to weld in some new arches & spray the whole side of the car. In the end I needed a new sill on the drivers side fitted as well for which he charged me an extra £100
rob-legend
19-01-2009, 20:22
whats the worst price i'd be looking at for both arches to be repaired and two new sills from the jacking point back? (one arch has a tiny spot,where as drivers side has bubbled badly and has come through the paint now around a third of the arch and onto the beginning of the sill) cheers. i'll post a pic of the arch up in a min
Worst case I'd say £500 per side at a guess
I'm only going on what mine cost, was originally quoted £400 a side to weld in some new arches & spray the whole side of the car. In the end I needed a new sill on the drivers side fitted as well for which he charged me an extra £100
cheers, yeah thats why i'm asking so i can gauge roughly what t pay based on what everyone else has.
here's a pic of the worst arch, it has bubble alot more now around the top of the arch though :(
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm6/rob-legend/17062008196.jpg
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm6/rob-legend/17062008197.jpg
MatrixGuy
19-01-2009, 21:43
Hang on, the bodyshop i used welded in new metal, so surely it shouldn't be rusting back already?
should i just buy a new rear arch from Renault?! lol.
16v_paddy
19-01-2009, 22:12
Hang on, the bodyshop i used welded in new metal, so surely it shouldn't be rusting back already?
should i just buy a new rear arch from Renault?! lol.
£385 + vat last time I asked, so I'd say no don't bother with stealers :lol: that's for the whole rear quarter as well, you'll only need a little bit of it to weld in. Are you sure they welded new metal in? Did you see them do it? Could they have just fillered it & charged you for welding?
they either lied or only did what they could see and didn't bother looking at where the two join.
MatrixGuy
19-01-2009, 22:45
Hang on, the bodyshop i used welded in new metal, so surely it shouldn't be rusting back already?
should i just buy a new rear arch from Renault?! lol.
£385 + vat last time I asked, so I'd say no don't bother with stealers :lol: that's for the whole rear quarter as well, you'll only need a little bit of it to weld in. Are you sure they welded new metal in? Did you see them do it? Could they have just fillered it & charged you for welding?
No, i didn't see him do it, but he seemed a top guy.
Any way of telling of they did?
16v_paddy
19-01-2009, 22:52
I don't know tbh :? suppose you might be able to tell by sanding it all back or using a magnet or something
Hang on, the bodyshop i used welded in new metal, so surely it shouldn't be rusting back already?
should i just buy a new rear arch from Renault?! lol.
£385 + vat last time I asked, so I'd say no don't bother with stealers :lol: that's for the whole rear quarter as well, you'll only need a little bit of it to weld in. Are you sure they welded new metal in? Did you see them do it? Could they have just fillered it & charged you for welding?
No, i didn't see him do it, but he seemed a top guy.
Any way of telling of they did?
Thats why they can get away with it - whos going to ruin what they spent £££ on to see if its actually been done!
Anyone who doesn't offer warranty on their work shouldn't be touched - also anyone who says ooooo you can never get rid of it once its there should be shot too...
MatrixGuy
20-01-2009, 17:39
Hang on, the bodyshop i used welded in new metal, so surely it shouldn't be rusting back already?
should i just buy a new rear arch from Renault?! lol.
£385 + vat last time I asked, so I'd say no don't bother with stealers :lol: that's for the whole rear quarter as well, you'll only need a little bit of it to weld in. Are you sure they welded new metal in? Did you see them do it? Could they have just fillered it & charged you for welding?
No, i didn't see him do it, but he seemed a top guy.
Any way of telling of they did?
Thats why they can get away with it - whos going to ruin what they spent £££ on to see if its actually been done!
Anyone who doesn't offer warranty on their work shouldn't be touched - also anyone who says ooooo you can never get rid of it once its there should be shot too...
lol, your right mate.
think i will be going elsewhere this time.
asfb2005
20-01-2009, 17:59
Can check by taking the rear quarter interior plastic off and looking at the arch, should be able to see where its been cut and welded.
MatrixGuy
20-01-2009, 18:47
I forgot to say there isn't rust on the actual panel (no bubbles), its on the lip, on the inside,
sounds like theyve filled it, on the lip its difficult to fill cause you cant tap the metal back to skim over.
Unless theres been some reaction to the paint etc,... :?
lewis_willy2
20-01-2009, 22:52
can people post up before during and after pics of there arches to be done. my williams is going in 2mro for cut and and re-welded arches :D
MatrixGuy
20-01-2009, 23:21
can people post up before during and after pics of there arches to be done. my williams is going in 2mro for cut and and re-welded arches :D
i forgot to take some, typical!
Where you having them done pal... so if they do a good job i'll go there, lol.
lewis_willy2
20-01-2009, 23:37
its a good friend of mine doing them, hes shit hot, hopefully be done by the weekend
then im gna get the priming done :cry:
andreas395
21-01-2009, 20:31
its a good friend of mine doing them, hes s**t hot, hopefully be done by the weekend
then im gna get the priming done :cry:
can he do mine the future if he does a good job :wink:
lewis_willy2
21-01-2009, 21:08
he certainly can, will get pics of mine and a price
hes gna be very well priced
rob-legend
21-01-2009, 22:14
where's he/you based? :D
lewis_willy2
21-01-2009, 23:41
ashford in kent
the williams is in his hands as we speak. will get an update asap
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