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Mark One
15-01-2009, 20:52
I'm fitting a williams widetrack to my project valver.

What's everyone done with regards to the rack and track rod ends? is there enough adjustment in the rod ends to allow for the widetrack? I remember reading someone say that there was only a couple of threads left if the valver rack is used.

I might be using a manual rack off a 1.2/1.4, but they are not very 'quick'. If I don't use one, i'd like to stick with my valver rack.

cheers everyone :D
stevie_b
16-01-2009, 09:57
I have a manual rack in my widetracked valver. You should have about 1cm of thread on either side if using the standard rods and ends, which I hope is enough, although it is a slight concern to me since there was loads of thread used when it was standard track width.
Mark One
16-01-2009, 13:03
cheers mate :)

can I ask if your setup is:
male track rod end and female track rod
or female track rod end and male track rod?

I may look into having the my rod ends lengthened slightly
Wobba
16-01-2009, 16:10
I'm fitting a williams widetrack to my project valver.

What's everyone done with regards to the rack and track rod ends? is there enough adjustment in the rod ends to allow for the widetrack? I remember reading someone say that there was only a couple of threads left if the valver rack is used.

I might be using a manual rack off a 1.2/1.4, but they are not very 'quick'. If I don't use one, i'd like to stick with my valver rack.

cheers everyone :D

Some say they are too short and a garage would bitch moan and throw their tools out the pram, but frankly, they are fine.
Wobba
16-01-2009, 16:12
Male track rod end and female track rod in my case.
Clio_GTT
16-01-2009, 19:06
I'm fitting a williams widetrack to my project valver.

What's everyone done with regards to the rack and track rod ends? is there enough adjustment in the rod ends to allow for the widetrack? I remember reading someone say that there was only a couple of threads left if the valver rack is used.

I might be using a manual rack off a 1.2/1.4, but they are not very 'quick'. If I don't use one, i'd like to stick with my valver rack.

cheers everyone :D

Some say they are too short and a garage would bitch moan and throw their tools out the pram, but frankly, they are fine.

As above, I had the std 16v PAS rack and rod ends with the widetrack and there was never a problem.
stevie_b
16-01-2009, 19:09
Male track rod end and female track rod in my case.

Same here. Here's a pic in case it helps:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/2stis/rack.jpg
Clio_GTT
16-01-2009, 19:26
Male track rod end and female track rod in my case.

Same here. Here's a pic in case it helps:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/2stis/rack.jpg

LHD ?
Clio_GTT
16-01-2009, 19:27
Ignore me, i'm blind
Mark One
16-01-2009, 22:59
one last thing. Is it possible to remove track rods (not ends) from racks?
Could I take the longer track rods off a willy rack and put them on a non-PAS rack?
number1
16-01-2009, 23:11
Yeh You can Remove the "track rods" from the actual Rack, need a pair of stilson's and Its Quite tight for space... Just my rod ends are wound out and have been fine,
white16valver
20-01-2009, 14:30
Wouldn't you need replacement locking washers if you took the old rods off a 16v rack and swapped for secondhand willy ones?
stevie_b
20-01-2009, 16:52
Ideally, yes. Or you could buy brand new Willy rods and they should come with the locking washers.
white16valver
20-01-2009, 18:49
That's what I was thinking :D lol
Wobba
20-01-2009, 19:32
Wouldn't you need replacement locking washers if you took the old rods off a 16v rack and swapped for secondhand willy ones?

You will get these supplied with the rods.
Wobba
20-01-2009, 19:35
REPLACEMEN n/a 600745060 TIE ROD ASSEMBLY LH RENAULT CLIO 90-98
ARM LH COMPLETE WITH ENDS £37.95
REPLACEMEN n/a 600745370 TIE ROD ASSEMBLY RH RENAULT CLIO 90-98
ARM RH COMPLETE WITH ENDS £37.50

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecommerce/Search_Results.asp

See clio 1.8 16v
white16valver
20-01-2009, 20:03
Like these you mean ;) :P :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/RSTurboPaul/DSCF9315.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/RSTurboPaul/DSCF9320.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/RSTurboPaul/DSCF9319e.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/RSTurboPaul/DSCF9322.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/RSTurboPaul/DSCF9324e.jpg


Which come with the famous locking washer!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/RSTurboPaul/DSCF9317cr.jpg


One of mine was missing the washer, so I rang up and said about it and they sent me another one out in a couple of days 8)

I believe the washers on their own are part code 600745370, as that was what was on the pack...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/RSTurboPaul/DSCF9316.jpg

:)

You'll also notice I've ringed the marks on the rods - I think they're identifying marks for which side is which. I believe Right Hand Side is 3 marks and Left Hand Side is 4 marks.