Williams suspension kits - options please?

[midge]

the only stuff i can find is coilover kits, which i dont really want..
what other options is there? and where from? i cant find anything except an 'ultimate' kit on k-tec site

[katbloke]

tbh you wony go wrong with genuine renault, and cheaper than ktec

[Wobba]

There's loads, but try this:

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/

Personally, I'd go standard Renault or serious coilovers.

[white16valver]

Fully refreshed standard F T W :P :D

[midge]

how much would new standard setup cost? and where from? cant find anything on eurocarparts, obviously can get it from renault, but will be expensive i presume.

[andreas395]

how much would new standard setup cost? and where from? cant find anything on eurocarparts, obviously can get it from renault, but will be expensive i presume.

you can get a full set of standard shocks form renault for about £200 mate would go for original myself mate

[white16valver]

These are 2006 prices for a widetrack conversion and general refresh so might have gone up a little...



77 00 838 095 - front shock £41.23 (x2)

60 01 025 842 - rhs wishbone £49.43
60 01 025 841 - lhs wishbone £49.43
77 00 785 788 (x2) ARB Bush (middle) £5.90

82 00 078 548 (x2) ARB Clip (middle) £2.90

77 03 035 027 (x2) Nut (middle) £0.75

77 03 002 116 (x2) Screw M8-2 (middle) £0.69

77 00 784 170 (x2) ARB Bush (w/bone end) £5.90

77 00 784 169 (x2) ARB Clip (w/bone end) £3.80

77 03 002 116 (x2) Screw M8-2 (w/bone end) £0.69

77 03 034 017 (x2) Nut (w/bone end) £0.36

77 01 470 089 - Strut kit £25.44 (x2)

60 01 025 828 - rear shock £46.86 (x2)

77 00 818 994 Engine Mount - Top £69.92
77 00 806 577 Engine Mount - Gearbox £25.00
77 00 849 715 Engine Mount - DogBone £27.25


To that lot you can add c. £50 (tops) for secondhand 172 springs (same as williams) or 172 Cup springs (very slightly lower and stiffer), and whatever an ARB costs. Could also do the track rods / rack?

[white16valver]

Springs:
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=373300

[ThRaXaIR]

hiya, im gunna be refreshing the lot before the next track day season. is that list everything you'll need to totally replace everything to do with suspension? i know you said it was a general refresh but im just checking so dont get angry :) i've already got widetrack obviously on a williams, does that need refreshing to?

cheers

[white16valver]

The following is taken from a post by u33db on old skool CS :P (dated 3rd Jan 2005!)


Theres been quite a few people asking about whats required to fit williams wider front track to a 1.8 clio lately so thought i'd post it here and get a moderator to pin it!

Anyway, here is the list of parts and the corresponding renault part numbers that you'll need to get it done. All the parts listed below are genuine Williams parts - it is possible to substitute some of these for aftermarket or alternative renault parts and i'll list the options where appropriate but i'll leave those who know more on these to comment. Obviously choosing between these will be dependant on your budget and preference.

Springs:
You can use williams springs or clio 1.8 16v springs - i won't list OE part numbers for these as they are dependant on a coloured spot on the original items - i'd suggest posting should you really need these. Aftermarket wise (which i'd assume most would go for), you can fit any lowering springs designed for a williams or clio 1.8 16v or, alternatively, you can fit coilovers (see below).
[Note that 172 springs are williams springs, and 172 Cup springs are slightly lower and slightly stiffer but the difference is marginal.]

Front Shock Absorbers:
• 77 00 838 095 - Williams front shock absorber (40.67 each)
• 77 00 838 095 - Williams front shock absorber (40.67 each)
You could obviously also fit aftermarket shocks or coilovers - however, these must be designed for a williams.

Wishbones:
• 60 01 025 842 - Williams wishbone - right hand side (48.30)
• 60 01 025 841 - Williams wishbone - left hand side (48.30)
Renault 19 16v wishbones will also fit.

Anti Roll Bar:
• 60 01 025 814 - Williams ARB (72.11)
Renault 19 16v ARB will also fit.

Anti Roll Bar Fixing (At Middle):
• 77 00 785 788 - ARB Bush (5.49)
• 77 00 785 788 - ARB Bush (5.49)
• 82 00 078 548 - ARB Clip (2.75)
• 82 00 078 548 - ARB Clip (2.75)
• 77 03 035 027 - Nut (0.73)
• 77 03 035 027 - Nut (0.73)
• 77 03 002 116 - Screw M8-2 (0.69)
• 77 03 002 116 - Screw M8-2 (0.69)
These items are not really necessary as you will be able to use the 1.8 items but IMO it's worth doing as your original bushes could be quite worn dependant on age/milage of your car.

Anti Roll Bar Fixing (At Wishbones):
• 77 00 784 170 - ARB Bush (5.49)
• 77 00 784 170 - ARB Bush (5.49)
• 77 00 784 169 - ARB Clip (3.61)
• 77 00 784 169 - ARB Clip (3.61)
• 77 03 002 116 - Screw M8-2 (0.69)
• 77 03 002 116 - Screw M8-2 (0.69)
• 77 03 034 017 - Nut (0.36)
• 77 03 034 017 - Nut (0.36)
These items are necessary to mate the ARB to the wishbones - the 1.8 setup mounts differently so you cannot use your existing components here.

Driveshafts:
• 77 01 367 623 - Williams driveshaft - right hand side (156.19)
• 77 01 367 627 - Williams driveshaft - left hand side (156.19)

Depending on if you car has ABS you may also need an ABS toothed ring
for each shaft. It may be possible to salvage these from your 1.8 setup
but if not then the part number is 77 00 867 344 (14.23) - you would
need two of these if applicable.

General Notes:
If you get asked for an oval plate number (i.e when ordering driveshafts etc) you can use 'C57M' which is for a Williams. If going for alternative parts (i.e. R19 16V) then you would need the corresponding oval plate for one of those - again, i'd suggest posting if you need them.

Also, going for all new parts will cost quite a lot so i'd try and source some of the parts secondhand - first ports of call would be www.infinicar.com or matbrown on here as they regularly break these cars.

That should be everything and should hopefully save time searching. If anyone has any question then please post below and i'm sure either myself or anyone else who has done the conversion will be happy to help.

u33db

and from winston :lol:


Cheap skate conversion below lol

19 16v ARB second hand £30
19 16v Wishbones brand new from GSF £60
Wishbone-to-ARB bushes and clips £30ish
Williams JR coilovers from hillpower £330ish (fixed damper)
Williams driveshafts second hand £90
Gearbox oil - £15