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1995clio16v
25-10-2008, 19:50
Did the F7R in 2.0 megane use the JC5, same box as the willy?

What are the differences if not?
MAXIBOY
25-10-2008, 20:30
yes its a JC5 but there can be casing differences with the way they mount up
16v_paddy
26-10-2008, 00:13
slightly different ratios as well, megane coupe F7R used JC5 091 gearbox have a look in this thread http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27316&highlight=gear+box+ratios :wink:
Justin..
26-10-2008, 01:49
will need to use a mk2 clio gearbox mount and battery tray to fit one
1995clio16v
11-04-2009, 11:45
Bending my head a bit this.

Which box for a F7R...?

Ive never had any probs with my JB3 from buying the car @ 59k to now retiring it at 109k. Except the syncro has been a bit ****ed for the last 2k in 3rd gear, the odd crunches here and there :lol: But it doesnt seemed to have gotten any worse. I have ragged the tits of the 16v since I bought it, yet the g/box has been fine. Yet a lot on here hate them...?

Is it a different story using a JB3 with an F7R with power differences etc...? Or is it more a case of the JB3 handling the extra power over standard, i.e 137 output as opposed to maybe 180 output...?

Can any JB3 or JC5 box (regardless of last three numbers) be used with F7R, but some mods needed as Justin says, to mounts, to get it to fit..?

Advice please...

:shock:
MAXIBOY
11-04-2009, 23:48
yeah either box can be used..JC5 is stronger and JC5 014 had its ratio's matched to an F7R type power band/torque outpput
1995clio16v
13-04-2009, 23:52
yeah either box can be used..JC5 is stronger and JC5 014 had its ratio's matched to an F7R type power band/torque outpput

Cheers Maxi, always reliable 8)

What things wont be a direct swap from my F7P that you know...? Only major things..dont need to list minor things like hoses!

Which head (F7P/F7R) produces best gains with some work done on it..? Dont think im gonna do anything more than cams and a bit of port and polish...

8)
Justin..
13-04-2009, 23:56
starter motor is the first big thing!



ive fitted a 2.0 into a 1.8 and that was the only thing that didnt fit
1995clio16v
13-04-2009, 23:57
ok, is that a big job to mod to fit, starter motor?

I had sump on my mind for some reason...?
1995clio16v
13-04-2009, 23:58
ok, is that a big job to mod to fit, starter motor?

I had sump on my mind for some reason...?

Shit sorry! Didnt read it well enough! Starter motor is only thing, cheers 8)

Sounds a treat

:o
1995clio16v
14-04-2009, 00:03
starter motor is the first big thing!



ive fitted a 2.0 into a 1.8 and that was the only thing that didnt fit

How did you get round it?
Justin..
14-04-2009, 00:08
fitted a 2.0 starter motor lol

theyre slimmer
simonr85
14-04-2009, 10:16
i have a seized F7R starter in my garage, just needs a refurb
1995clio16v
14-04-2009, 10:29
i have a seized F7R starter in my garage, just needs a refurb

Cheers for offer mate but will just trade in with ribblesdale for a re-con unit when the time comes...

8)
1995clio16v
14-04-2009, 10:30
yeah either box can be used..JC5 is stronger and JC5 014 had its ratio's matched to an F7R type power band/torque outpput

Which head (F7P/F7R) produces best gains with some work done on it..? Dont think im gonna do anything more than cams and a bit of port and polish...
Smudger
14-04-2009, 10:40
if your after a willy starter, get a 1.9d one from this place

http://www.vehicle-electrics-online.com/

I got one the other day for the old man's van and its identical to a williams one. Its a proper Bosch model and i only cost £70 including VAT and delivery.
simonr85
14-04-2009, 13:10
i have a seized F7R starter in my garage, just needs a refurb

Cheers for offer mate but will just trade in with ribblesdale for a re-con unit when the time comes...

8)
hav u got the f7r in??? do u have a small reg plate on ur car?? seen a valver in penwortham the other week
1995clio16v
14-04-2009, 13:46
i have a seized F7R starter in my garage, just needs a refurb

Cheers for offer mate but will just trade in with ribblesdale for a re-con unit when the time comes...

8)
hav u got the f7r in??? do u have a small reg plate on ur car?? seen a valver in penwortham the other week

Yeah, will have been me, thats where i live.

It went into hiding 1st april think it was, so was prob b4 then. Tax was up and needs rust sorting so not F7R'd yet, plus its getting tired, 110k.

F7R on the way this weekend hopefully.

8)

You'll now be seeing me in a sleeper, Mondeo 1.8 LX :shock:
simonr85
14-04-2009, 14:51
have you got student hair??? lol if so then it was you!
1995clio16v
14-04-2009, 17:44
have you got student hair??? lol if so then it was you!

Student hair!! FFS!!...Its called 'ROCKSTAR' hair mate

8) :P
cliokiz
15-04-2009, 16:35
Mk2 gearbox mount and MK1 ABS DO NOT WORK

The ABS fouls quite badly on the MK2 style top gearbox mount, so if your valver has ABS don't even consider running a gearbox with the MK2 top mount unless you want to move/remove the pump.