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Mark One
12-10-2008, 18:32
I've bought me quite a nice looking white valver at a good price as a base for my project. The sills need replacing, this is the worst one, the other has been poorly patched.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa79/Point8/WhiteValver/DSC00330.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa79/Point8/WhiteValver/DSC00331.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa79/Point8/WhiteValver/DSC00332.jpg

I want to replace the sills on both sides. I have found these: http://www.everycarpart.co.uk/renault-clio-19901996-sill-full-drivers-side-p-57101.html

So that's 2 unpainted sills delivered for just over £50, which is nice.

About fitting - these are welded on right?
How likely am to find shabby inner sills?
Anyone know of a rough quote for replacement of sills and painting them up provided the inner sills don't need work?
white16valver
12-10-2008, 18:34
Yes, welded (afaik)

Very likely lol

Mine cost c. £400 for one side to be done...
Mark One
12-10-2008, 18:52
400 :shock: fail.
anyone else.
16v_paddy
12-10-2008, 19:36
I had a sill replaced when I had my respray, was a bit unexpected as the guy who done it reckoned the damage I done was repairable, but in reality it wasn't so he charged me an extra £150

I think the £400 price the guy said was probably for replacing the sill then prepping & painting the whole side of the car

hope this helps
gazz81
12-10-2008, 21:36
will standard clio sills fit a valver?
Mark One
12-10-2008, 21:47
will standard clio sills fit a valver?

I've just been told that the standard sills are not the same as valver ones :(

A guy on cliosport reckons that a savvy pannel beater may be able to make them fit though.
MAXIBOY
12-10-2008, 21:47
with a little work..
northy
12-10-2008, 21:59
cut the old sill off just below the swage line and u will see what areas will need replacing.

do it right and it will last years
Mark One
12-10-2008, 22:02
cut the old sill off just below the swage line and u will see what areas will need replacing.

do it right and it will last years

Thanks,
Can you give me an idea of what the swage line is? :oops:

What's the final word on fitting non-valver sills to a valver people? anyone know?
northy
12-10-2008, 22:06
on the sill, where the bobbly stone chip finishes the panel kicks out and into plane body colour. Just below the door.

If it was me i would cut a good 1" down from that line when removing a rusty sill

check out gweebs project in the project section
LEIGH-ANNE
12-10-2008, 22:08
Excellent post.......i have a shite seal too! :(
Mark One
12-10-2008, 22:22
on the sill, where the bobbly stone chip finishes the panel kicks out and into plane body colour. Just below the door.

If it was me i would cut a good 1" down from that line when removing a rusty sill

check out gweebs project in the project section

little help. whos gweebs?
LEIGH-ANNE
12-10-2008, 22:25
http://www.williamsclio.co.uk/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2380

:D
Mark One
12-10-2008, 22:36
sorry, it's just I still can't find his project :(
white16valver
13-10-2008, 09:04
Just to confirm, my £400 was for inner and outer sill work + spraying, iirc.

Not good :(
Mark One
13-10-2008, 13:27
I am really tempted to give it a go myself :? . I have a simple MIG and can weld but I'm really worried that I will screw it up royaly.

I'm trying to get an idea of what it will look like under the sills too, so that when im grinding I know how much room I have to play with inside the sills.....any pics anyone?
geesus
13-10-2008, 15:27
this is what you might be faced with on the inner sill if the rust has got that far, like mine did :(

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y105/geesus69/clio/DSC00625.jpg
andreas395
13-10-2008, 15:52
this is what you might be faced with on the inner sill if the rust has got that far, like mine did :(

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y105/geesus69/clio/DSC00625.jpg

:shock: :shock: :shock:
drsmith1979
13-10-2008, 16:56
ahhh good old renault haha...... :lol:
Mark One
13-10-2008, 17:45
:shock: ^^ fun times :shock:

Cheers mate, that pic is exactly what I was after.

Ok, well It probably will be rusted on the inner (as it's a '92 car) but I think I might give it a go with the grinder and welder. Going to order the standard MK1 sills and have a look at the normal MK1 up the road to see if I can work out the differences between the sills.
TBH it doesent look a lot? different? does it??
MAXIBOY
13-10-2008, 18:13
right the good news x2

sills aren't too different just the are a little wider iirc on the 16v willy models..

also the early cars tend to be better anyway..mine on a 1992 has the original sill still..

inner sill are easy to fabricate as there flat and run below the floorplan just need to transfer the mounting/holes/etc over to the new items..

my only advice would be not to move the car at all when the stills are removed and maybe to remove the door seal and weld a temporary bar across the door opening if it looks as though the inner sills need doing before removing them...or buy the special door frame clamp..
Mark One
13-10-2008, 18:24
^hanks very much^ that helps :)
LEIGH-ANNE
13-10-2008, 18:58
Think mine are mint compared to them sills! :shock:
spikey-ben
15-10-2008, 18:28
Mine didnt look that bad before i cut them off, then the inner sill had gone in a big way. They seem to get water in through the back of the sill near the front of the rear wheel arch. Pretty much rot from the inside out.
gud old renno for ya.